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Loud & Rude does not equal strong

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  • Center Left
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    Lester lost control early. Seems like Trump has been talking about 60 pct. of the night. I can't wait for some fact check info.

    Stop and frisk ... why wasn't 83 pct mentioned ?????? That's the amount of persons checked who were black or Hispanic. Err..... She's looked good at times but has been too damned quiet far too often. Lester should have said shut up Donald, about eight times.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The Benghazi Hearing Hillary showed up tonight. She never lost a point. Trump was trying to find something to pounce on and Hillary never broke her stride.

  • Center Left
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    Listening to the post debate follow up. So many different views being expressed. As usual most people saw what they wanted. Most had already decided. I am hearing most networks saying Trump started strong but Clinton won more points. Sort of 55 - 45. few on the fence voters swayed to one side.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    It was about as expected. I was a bit surprised about how easily Trump was baited by Hillary's responses.

    Tweet of the night I give to Jerry Springer: "Hillary belongs in the White House. Trump belongs on my show."

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: It was about as expected. I was a bit surprised about how easily Trump was baited by Hillary's responses.

    I have to admit that I thought a different, more subdued Trump would have shown up last night. I was pleasantly surprised that his typical braggadocios, incomprehensible, idiotic self showed up, but I still thought he was going to act like he understood that General Election debates are a different beast than primary debates.

    Schmidt Wrote: Tweet of the night I give to Jerry Springer: "Hillary belongs in the White House. Trump belongs on my show."

    Haha!

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote: Listening to the post debate follow up. So many different views being expressed. As usual most people saw what they wanted. Most had already decided. I am hearing most networks saying Trump started strong but Clinton won more points. Sort of 55 - 45. few on the fence voters swayed to one side.

    Today's follow up seems nearly universal outside of Fox News, Breidbart, and the Drudge Report and it has been all good news for Secretary Clinton.

    I really, really hope that anyone who may have been on the fence before last nights debate now understands that Donald Trump doesn't belong anywhere near the White House. His die hard supporters will never change. He even said it himself when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any votes from his supporters.

    I'm not worried about his die hard supporters though. I'm worried about someone who maybe isn't in love with Secretary Clinton, but at least has some rational thoughts that pop up into their heads every now and then.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    It was interesting to follow some of the post debate interviews of committed and uncommitted voters. It seemed to me, at least from the selected interviews, very few people had changed their minds about who they would vote for. And many of the undecideds remain undecided...at least publically.

    However, I couldn't help but wonder if the interviews shown us on TV were cherry picked to help make it seem that the race was still about 50:50. The closer the race or the perception that the race is close, the more profits for the corporate for profit media. This is a point that Thom Hartmann keeps making -- that the mainstream media are not honest brokers. They want the race to be close because the closer it is the more money they make. So their coverage is meant to help influence the race to be closer in people's minds.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "the closer it is the more money they make."

    To have another record breaking audience would put a lot of pressure on the media. I wonder if Trump is getting paid. His hinting about bringing up damaging material is like a commercial.

  • Center Left
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    I agree those young persons interviewed on the news who say "he's the best choice" are showing that they have only lived a short while and are just barely out from underneath their parents umbrella. I heard on pbs last night that 19 percent of Americans believe that the gov't has the answer to their problems. In the 1970's it was nearly 50 pct.

    Does a congress and senate who refuse to do what that black president wants

    feed that perception that gov't is useless ? Yes. So the perfect candidates in the future will be those who've never done it before because more of what we're used to is just not acceptable. Hmmmm

    *** The same pbs interview noted how a speech by Joe Biden mentioned a typical middle-class family income being around 125,000 when in many cases it's as low as 52,000. That feeds the idea that the gov't just doesn't always understand the challenges being faced.