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People first, God second. Should people put themselves above God?

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    People first, God second. Should people put themselves above God?

    Jesus put people above God and so should we. “Mark 2;27 And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath: 28Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

    I think that the world would be a better place if people put their wants and needs as well as the wants and needs of other people above God’s.

    I look at all the wealth that religions squander on themselves with huge churches and mosques, which are mostly empty, --- while many people still live in poverty and despair, --- and wonder if that wealth would be better spent on the poor. That would conform more to what Jesus taught us to do for the poor.

    Governments seem to be of the same mindset as the religions as they spend lavishly on themselves while the poor go with their needs ignored.

    I would think that religions would show the better mindset but that does not seem to be the case.

    Before religions started thinking of God as a literal and real being, a more peaceful world, religiously speaking, home churches were the order of the day. Archeology has proven this. They were used as feeding stations for the poor and destitute and contributed more to the fellowship that people need more that the mega churches, temples and mosques that we have today.

    Should we consider the benefits of the older ways and bring religion back into the homes where it’s expression and help for the poor can be better served?

    Seems to me that the religious crave a personal relationship with their God, and that is best expressed from homes and not from the self-aggrandizing mega monstrosities and opulent churches and mosques that advertise their wasted wealth in our cities.

    Does charity really begin at home, by putting people first and not God?

    Regards

    DL

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    Nobody says that you should raise a child with guilt except religion.
  • Center Left
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    Political forum here. I believe God will vote his conscience.
  • Democrat
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    Several of the Founders were deists, including Washington and Franklin, who believed that if there was a prime mover, it placed the world where it is and left it up to mankind to form its own society. So in other words, we are on our own.
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    Combad57 Wrote: Several of the Founders were deists, including Washington and Franklin, who believed that if there was a prime mover, it placed the world where it is and left it up to mankind to form its own society. So in other words, we are on our own.
    Consider that there is a god above man. It is an indictment of man for all the things they pray for. Winning a ball game, winning a race, pray for winning the lotto. There is more secularism in the faithful than in the secularist.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:
    Combad57 Wrote: Several of the Founders were deists, including Washington and Franklin, who believed that if there was a prime mover, it placed the world where it is and left it up to mankind to form its own society. So in other words, we are on our own.
    Consider that there is a god above man. It is an indictment of man for all the things they pray for. Winning a ball game, winning a race, pray for winning the lotto. There is more secularism in the faithful than in the secularist.
    What is so funny that some GOP members claim "god" did sent Trump to be President. Sure I love to see that transcript. In other words it means an never seen, never met "human" created "god" thing knows Trump in an out better than we do as well "worldly politics"; Sorry if I was an "god", I would have better things to do than taking care or meddle in the tiny human "ant" world and would concentrate on the huge universe instead.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Nobody says that you should raise a child with guilt except religion.

    Hmm.

    Not to give religion a break but most people bring their kids up to know when they should feel guilt or not.

    If you meant false guilt then we are on the same page as this Bishop.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc

    Regards

    DL

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    TJ Wrote: Political forum here. I believe God will vote his conscience.

    God has no conscience or he would not be absentee.

    Regards
    DL

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    Combad57 Wrote: Several of the Founders were deists, including Washington and Franklin, who believed that if there was a prime mover, it placed the world where it is and left it up to mankind to form its own society. So in other words, we are on our own.

    Good to see one who does need a supernatural sugar daddy to kiss his booboos.

    Regards

    DL

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:
    Combad57 Wrote: Several of the Founders were deists, including Washington and Franklin, who believed that if there was a prime mover, it placed the world where it is and left it up to mankind to form its own society. So in other words, we are on our own.
    Consider that there is a god above man. It is an indictment of man for all the things they pray for. Winning a ball game, winning a race, pray for winning the lotto. There is more secularism in the faithful than in the secularist.

    Consider that those people are also praying for their God to make the other side lose the ball game, lose the race, lose ton their lotto tickets etc.

    Nothing quite like doing evil unto others as they are doing right back to you.

    A rather twisted version of the Golden Rule that.

    Regards

    DL

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    G.B., If you can think independently and want to contribute to a political conversation, I could recommend The Democratic Hub. Otherwise you're handing out what was not asked for. I hope you vote if you've not already. If you talked politics...... on occasion we are open to discuss other things. About now you seem like an uninvited salesman.
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    Hopefully, God will go the way of Trumpie- out of our lives forever!
  • Independent
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    G.B. Go burn some "witches" the favored past time of churches; do me an favor and talk to some snakes
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    Dutch Wrote: G.B. Go burn some "witches" the favored past time of churches; do me an favor and talk to some snakes

    Burning witches is for idol worshiping fools. Gnostic Christians are not idol worshipers. We are God seekers.

    God defined as the best rules and laws to live by.

    Idol worshipers are the snakes and I speak to as many as I can so as to correct their poor thinking.

    Regards

    DL

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    Gnostic Bishop Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: G.B. Go burn some "witches" the favored past time of churches; do me an favor and talk to some snakes

    Burning witches is for idol worshiping fools. Gnostic Christians are not idol worshipers. We are God seekers.

    God defined as the best rules and laws to live by.

    Idol worshipers are the snakes and I speak to as many as I can so as to correct their poor thinking.

    Regards

    DL

    Human created "god's" never defined rules or laws; "humans" did. Ask Wodan. Or your invisible created "ghost" on Mars.