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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Kurt Eichenwald, Newsweek, September 14, 2016: How the Trump Organization's Foreign Business Ties Could Upend U.S. National Security

    This article has been hyped in the liberal media before its release. The lead paragraph reads:

    "If Donald Trump is elected president, will he and his family permanently sever all connections to the Trump Organization, a sprawling business empire that has spread a secretive financial web across the world? Or will Trump instead choose to be the most conflicted president in American history, one whose business interests will constantly jeopardize the security of the United States?"

    It is an extensively researched and well written article. The mainstream media should be making it the number 1 news story every day until the election. But what do I see in the news instead this morning? Hillary Clinton was not transparent by not revealing her pneumonia sooner.

    Read it and make sure you get off your ass and vote.

    Oh and let's make this thread about the Trump organization and not Hillary Clinton...please.

  • Center Left
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    Misogyny. That are racism are rampant in this fine country.
  • Independent
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    Schmidt and T.J. in another thread I 've asked the same question, about both Trump and Hillary related to their" business" when they start their "new" job. As I said this job requires an 24 hour attention. I'm amazed that no one had an answer There should be an "law" or "rule" that such job is unique and can not be mixed with any other activities.

    An very strange unregulated country for sure.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    I was really surprised at how extensive Trump's ties go around the globe. He seems to be everywhere from India to Turkey to South Korea to Dubai to Libya to Russia and Ukraine, the countries discussed in this article, as well as "deep connections in China, Brazil, Bulgaria, Argentina, Canada, France, Germany and other countries." Newsweek concludes:

    "Never before has an American candidate for president had so many financial ties with American allies and enemies, and never before has a business posed such a threat to the United States. If Donald Trump wins this election and his company is not immediately shut down or forever severed from the Trump family, the foreign policy of the United States of America could well be for sale."

    This is really worrisome and it certainly reveals why Trump is so pro Putin.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I was really surprised at how extensive Trump's ties go around the globe. He seems to be everywhere from India to Turkey to South Korea to Dubai to Libya to Russia and Ukraine, the countries discussed in this article, as well as "deep connections in China, Brazil, Bulgaria, Argentina, Canada, France, Germany and other countries." Newsweek concludes:

    "Never before has an American candidate for president had so many financial ties with American allies and enemies, and never before has a business posed such a threat to the United States. If Donald Trump wins this election and his company is not immediately shut down or forever severed from the Trump family, the foreign policy of the United States of America could well be for sale."

    This is really worrisome and it certainly reveals why Trump is so pro Putin.

    Thus you have no answer either? Who is going to dictate these things, if there is no "law" to prevent such?
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote:I was really surprised at how extensive Trump's ties go around the globe. He seems to be everywhere from India to Turkey to South Korea to Dubai to Libya to Russia and Ukraine, the countries discussed in this article, as well as "deep connections in China, Brazil, Bulgaria, Argentina, Canada, France, Germany and other countries." Newsweek concludes:

    "Never before has an American candidate for president had so many financial ties with American allies and enemies, and never before has a business posed such a threat to the United States. If Donald Trump wins this election and his company is not immediately shut down or forever severed from the Trump family, the foreign policy of the United States of America could well be for sale."

    This is really worrisome and it certainly reveals why Trump is so pro Putin.

    What's more worrisome is the crickets coming out of the supposed liberal media. If the Clinton Foundation was accused of conducting these shady practices then everyone would be calling for her head. It just goes to show how she is held to a completely different standard than Trump.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:I was really surprised at how extensive Trump's ties go around the globe. He seems to be everywhere from India to Turkey to South Korea to Dubai to Libya to Russia and Ukraine, the countries discussed in this article, as well as "deep connections in China, Brazil, Bulgaria, Argentina, Canada, France, Germany and other countries." Newsweek concludes:

    "Never before has an American candidate for president had so many financial ties with American allies and enemies, and never before has a business posed such a threat to the United States. If Donald Trump wins this election and his company is not immediately shut down or forever severed from the Trump family, the foreign policy of the United States of America could well be for sale."

    This is really worrisome and it certainly reveals why Trump is so pro Putin.

    What's more worrisome is the crickets coming out of the supposed liberal media. If the Clinton Foundation was accused of conducting these shady practices then everyone would be calling for her head. It just goes to show how she is held to a completely different standard than Trump.
    Jared, if you would have followed the discussion on MSNBC it showed that Trump has its tentacles all over the world and can use that for "pay for play"; but no one dares to put rules in place to dictate that the "winner " has to drop all the activities related to other things; except only governing this country. according to Schmidt those rules either don't exist or are vague. And you still say nothing is wrong with this country and whom we elect?????
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Just to be clear, I did not say that "these rules don't exist or are vague". The essence of my two posts was the various revelations by Kurt Eichenwald of Trump's overseas deals. My added comment was that the mainstream media should be making it the number 1 story until the election, and that the story also helped explain Trump's love for Putin.

    I do not claim to know anything about the laws or precedent regarding disclosure or conflict of interest should Trump become president. What he is doing now as a private citizen, I understand is perfectly legal. Once (if) he is elected president, then it becomes a whole new can of worms. I'll leave that to the experts to unravel.

    Until then the voters can decide.

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    Dutch Wrote: Jared, if you would have followed the discussion on MSNBC it showed that Trump has its tentacles all over the world and can use that for "pay for play"; but no one dares to put rules in place to dictate that the "winner " has to drop all the activities related to other things; except only governing this country. according to Schmidt those rules either don't exist or are vague.

    I have known that Trump has his tentacles all over the world for a long time. I also know that the Congress has the sole authority to write the laws that could prevent Trump or any other President from using their role as President in an attempt to bolster the profits of their business. Maybe people should get off their asses and call their representatives in Congress to demand that they do something about it.

    Dutch Wrote: And you still say nothing is wrong with this country and whom we elect?????

    Here's a challenge for you - find one quote of mine where I said that nothing is wrong with our country. Good luck!

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Just to be clear, I did not say that "these rules don't exist or are vague". The essence of my two posts was the various revelations by Kurt Eichenwald of Trump's overseas deals. My added comment was that the mainstream media should be making it the number 1 story until the election, and that the story also helped explain Trump's love for Putin.

    I do not claim to know anything about the laws or precedent regarding disclosure or conflict of interest should Trump become president. What he is doing now as a private citizen, I understand is perfectly legal. Once (if) he is elected president, then it becomes a whole new can of worms. I'll leave that to the experts to unravel.

    Until then the voters can decide.

    Schmidt, I understand you. But don't you think these things should be clear now and not on the day someone is elected; then it is already too late to unravel all these things. For instance Trump can't step from one day into another and drop all his ongoing transactions at once. So that is the problem I have, with kicking this can down the road.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    In my view the main problem is with our "for profit media" that want to sensationalize trivia to make it "breaking news". CNN and MSNBC are competing with each on breaking news stuff that shouldn't even make the news. Hillary has been going around the country speaking at all kinds of events about her proposals and how they can make life better for ordinary Americans. It's all boring stuff and doesn't catch the attention of the media. So she makes a comment about the "basket of deplorables" and she makes headlines, just like Trump makes headlines with his daily dose of hate speech. That's what gets you into the media's good graces...sensationalism. Feed the media's need for sensationalism and you'll get moved from page 3 to the front page.

    Sorry, but I'll take Hillary's wonky nuanced speeches about what she's going to do for Americans rather then the phony outrage that feeds the beast. And Newsweek's story will also soon be forgotten. It is too complicated for the media to keep it on the front page.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    In my view the main problem is with our "for profit media" that want to sensationalize trivia to make it "breaking news". CNN and MSNBC are competing with each on breaking news stuff that shouldn't even make the news. Hillary has been going around the country speaking at all kinds of events about her proposals and how they can make life better for ordinary Americans. It's all boring stuff and doesn't catch the attention of the media. So she makes a comment about the "basket of deplorables" and she makes headlines, just like Trump makes headlines with his daily dose of hate speech. That's what gets you into the media's good graces...sensationalism. Feed the media's need for sensationalism and you'll get moved from page 3 to the front page.

    Sorry, but I'll take Hillary's wonky nuanced speeches about what she's going to do for Americans rather then the phony outrage that feeds the beast. And Newsweek's story will also soon be forgotten. It is too complicated for the media to keep it on the front page.

    Schmidt, I guess you have lived long enough in this country to now how things work here. As long as the "media" (over which I wrote quite a bit in the past) is controlled by a couple of billionaires. That is why I prefer the European news, which is straightforward without what you said. So with these elections they "play" their games with the public. So if Hillary does not play that known "card" she will loose, because the "media" can influence elections here in an big way. This is the American way. You like it, I don't
  • Liberal Democrat
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    I will agree with you in part...that is the media plays a major role in influencing voters by giving prominence to bullshit and by sensationalizing trivial stuff that would not normally make the news. That's the price we pay for "for profit media". It gives politicians the upper hand in appealing to the "low information voter" to be politically correct. I won't use the word dumb asses.

    Where we disagree is that you think Hillary Clinton should start appealing to that segment of the "public" by dumbing down her language and start talking like them. Sorry that would never work with Hillary. Her best course of action is to be herself and not try to be something she is not. She is not a carnival barker nor does she have the oratory skills of President Obama. Her path to success is to get out the vote of her own base of supporters and not try to sway the Duck Dynasty viewers that she is one of them. That would come across as phoniness.

    On the other hand, Donald Trump has certainly been able to make inroads with that group but it's precisely because he uses the crude racist politically incorrect language of that demographic that he is able to sucker them into his camp.

    If I were to add one group to the deplorables it would be the main stream media, in particular the cable news channels, Fox News, CNN and MSNBC, who profit by sensationalizing every politically correct thing that comes out of the carnival barker's mouth. They are the deplorables-in-chief because they have dumbed down the news by feeding the other deplorables day in and day out with mindless bullshit.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I will agree with you in part...that is the media plays a major role in influencing voters by giving prominence to bullshit and by sensationalizing trivial stuff that would not normally make the news. That's the price we pay for "for profit media". It gives politicians the upper hand in appealing to the "low information voter" to be politically correct. I won't use the word dumb asses.

    Where we disagree is that you think Hillary Clinton should start appealing to that segment of the "public" by dumbing down her language and start talking like them. Sorry that would never work with Hillary. Her best course of action is to be herself and not try to be something she is not. She is not a carnival barker nor does she have the oratory skills of President Obama. Her path to success is to get out the vote of her own base of supporters and not try to sway the Duck Dynasty viewers that she is one of them. That would come across as phoniness.

    On the other hand, Donald Trump has certainly been able to make inroads with that group but it's precisely because he uses the crude racist politically incorrect language of that demographic that he is able to sucker them into his camp.

    If I were to add one group to the deplorables it would be the main stream media, in particular the cable news channels, Fox News, CNN and MSNBC, who profit by sensationalizing every politically correct thing that comes out of the carnival barker's mouth. They are the deplorables-in-chief because they have dumbed down the news by feeding the other deplorables day in and day out with mindless bullshit.

    Schmidt; read your own words; thus you agree that Trump can win on B.S. alone, with the help of the media. In other words you have to cater to the uneducated as well if you want to win. That is the name of the game in this country; be proud of it.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Well yes there is a chance that Hillary Clinton could lose. I will put it on the shoulders of the low information voters who have bought into the endless lies and conspiracy theories about the Clintons. But I also blame the far left...the Jill Stein supporters who thinks she will give them a bunch of free stuff. Jill Stein is actively campaigning in the swing states following a tactic that Ralph Nader was successful in in 2000 successfully stopping Al Gore from winning the president. He had a lot of help from big time Republican donors.

    I don't know to what extent Jill Stein is taking donations from Republicans but she's spending money freely and bashing Hillary at every event. If Hillary Clinton loses because Jill Stein took 4-5 percent of her vote, Jill Stein will be dancing in the streets. Hate has that effect.