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Understanding "TrumpSpeak"

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Vox, August 18, 2016, Donald Trump’s strange speaking style, as explained by linguists

    I have listened to so many rambling incoherent monologues by Trump (compliments of MSNBC) that I was glad to see that someone finally wrote about them. Here is an extract from one of Trump's monologues from a campaign rally in South Carolina on July 21, 2015 where the subject was the Iran nuclear deal:

    Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

    It kind of reminds me of Sarah PalinSpeak quickly getting off subject again and again. Yet he is interrupted by cheers and boos (if Hillary is mentioned) again and again. Vox analyzes Trumps speaking style in the above article. It makes for interesting reading. But I do make one observation that many have mentioned. Trump has a short attention span so even when he is making prepared remarks at rallies his mind jumps all around from topic to topic.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    He's manic-depressive.
  • Independent
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    As well has an inferiority complex as well bi-polar. Why does he otherwise has to prove over and over again how great he is and how rich he is? The bi-polar part shows his mood swings; he can't stand to loose or gets an tantrum.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: Trump has a short attention span so even when he is making prepared remarks at rallies his mind jumps all around from topic to topic.
    This is what terrifies me the most about a potential Trump Presidency. I fear he will make a rash decision that leads to a nuclear winter because he can't stay focused on something for more than ten seconds.
  • Center Left
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    Today it was said that he's reviewing some of his earlier claims. Immigration.....you have to send all of the drug dealing rapists back to Mexico don't you ? (SARCASM). He would be called a flip flopper if he wasn't a god to these idiots who plan to vote for him. I've seen previous things that said if he got his way and sent all illegal immigrants back, it would raise the costs of hundreds of food products because things cost what they do currently because slave labor picks the produce that you count on being very low cost at the grocery. On top of this, who in the hell are going to clean all of the rich persons houses in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California if the current slave labor is on their way back to where they came from ? Who's going to cut the grass in those states ? Who's going to work in the sweat shop factories ? Who's going to compensate the landlords no longer collecting rent from the returning aliens ?

    Just for fun, I grabbed a calculator and divided 12 million by 50 which I assume to be a capacity of a school bus. This is assuming they have little to no luggage and absolutely nothing that doesn't fit into a travel bag.

    That would be 240,000 bus trips to get those people out of here. If you could send 70 loads a day..... it would take 3,428.57 days or 9.39334637964 years to send them all back. What do you want to bet that this is all just useless talk to stir up the emotions of stupid southerners who think that they are poor because of persons from Mexico and other origins in Central America. What about the 12 million persons who suddenly have no place to live upon arriving back where they said they are from ? International CHAOS !!!!!!! If I was an illegal in TX I would tell them I came from Venice, Italy.

    Anyway, He says whatever the hell he wants and massive flocks of stupid people consider it hard proven facts. SOOOOOO we're talking about these 240,000 bus loads that will never happen...... I wouldn't be surprised if he bought every available bus in the southwest - in theory because why do anything if you aren't making a buck on it.

    Yes this is just a pointless ramble but it puts into perspective how crazy his whole ideas are. Anyone ask the thousands of farmers growing produce in the SW how they'll get produce picked if the illegals left ? I didn't think so. Anyone ask 350 million Americans if they'll mind spending a hell of a lot more for fruits and vegetables once newly employed white guys are picking at 20% the speed of the former pickers ? I didn't think so.

    Maybe 50,000 persons would be returned which is just a random number. He would have been elected on the thoughts that it would be 12 million. Talk is cheap and many voters are stupid on their best days. 'Murica...........

  • Liberal Democrat
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    240,000 bus loads? I wonder how many box cars that would be. The way he's behaving just like you know who, box cars could be his solution.
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    Schmidt Wrote: 240,000 bus loads? I wonder how many box cars that would be. The way he's behaving just like you know who, box cars could be his solution.
    Don't worry the "wall" will also prevent these people from leaving!! Ha ha. Yes indeed Tony the neighborhood "grass" will stand 3 ft tall when they leave and the red neck "whities" will refuse to pick up the garbage or fix your roof in 104 degrees, because they are too busy at the "bar" or fixing their Harley's.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "raise the costs of hundreds of food products because things cost what they do currently because slave labor picks the produce that you count on being very low cost at the grocery."

    Objecting to returning illegals based on rising prices is worse than Trump wanting to force them out for being illegals. Newt Gingrinch would probably support work Visas dependent on low wages to keep illegals.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Vox, August 18, 2016, Donald Trump’s strange speaking style, as explained by linguists

    I have listened to so many rambling incoherent monologues by Trump (compliments of MSNBC) that I was glad to see that someone finally wrote about them. Here is an extract from one of Trump's monologues from a campaign rally in South Carolina on July 21, 2015 where the subject was the Iran nuclear deal:

    Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

    It kind of reminds me of Sarah PalinSpeak quickly getting off subject again and again. Yet he is interrupted by cheers and boos (if Hillary is mentioned) again and again. Vox analyzes Trumps speaking style in the above article. It makes for interesting reading. But I do make one observation that many have mentioned. Trump has a short attention span so even when he is making prepared remarks at rallies his mind jumps all around from topic to topic.

    Schmidt, Consider what type of person is affected by brash outlandish braggadocio.

  • Center Left
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    No Chet, The cost of produce isn't the reason I'm not pleased but If this country doesn't think it will be noticed if they don't live in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, or California - they are wrong. Wait and see if the previously 1.00 head of lettuce being 6.00 doesn't get a few people bitching. I had a buddy who lived in Houston. He owned a mower but said why should I cut when it's so cheap to have it done. Many things we're all used to would change.

    I live in Florida and we have a large number of Mexicans in the area as slave labor. I bet another 6 or 8 states could say the same.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ, I am having a problem understanding your point. Are you saying that illegals should stay because of the cheap labor they provide. I live in the panhandle and Mexicans have provided cheap dependable quality labor after Ivan and Katrina. They are still here in all the Gulf Coast States. You refer to it as slave labor. That is probably a fair characterization because they work cheap off the books, don't have official identities and have to maintain their anonymity.

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    I am saying that they are here because they dream of a better way of life. Some want them gone but their being gone doesn't mean anything improves. I am saying that if they were gone..... some things would get worse. An enforceable minimum wage should be in effect. That would mean less profits for those maximizing their profits with unlawful workers.

    A best solution would be a path to citizenship. Not because it gives us cheaper fruit nd vegetables but because it's the right thing to do.

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    TJ Wrote:

    I am saying that they are here because they dream of a better way of life. Some want them gone but their being gone doesn't mean anything improves. I am saying that if they were gone..... some things would get worse. An enforceable minimum wage should be in effect. That would mean less profits for those maximizing their profits with unlawful workers.

    A best solution would be a path to citizenship. Not because it gives us cheaper fruit nd vegetables but because it's the right thing to do.

    No tony, that is not how it works. As I told you our government is "corrupt". In order to get an citizenship, you have to spent an small fortune. Lots of paperwork and fees. As I mentioned before just to renew an "green card" costs now $600.- ( per person) plus all the hassles to get your fingerprints/picture, travel cost etc. and then have to wait more than an year to finally get your renewed card. Let alone when you are applying for the first time. Thus I can imagine that an poor Mexican etc. can't afford that for an whole family. Therefore an path to citizenship is for them not that easy; especially you have to be just about an lawyer to be able to read the government jargon and the applicants may not have all the needed paperwork. If you miss one item then you are in trouble or can not fill in one "square" you can lengthen the process by month's as well the cost goes up. No things are not as simple as our "candidates" portray.
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    And then; it became dead quiet................................................. The Mexicans love our "path to citizenship"; shaking my head.

    Wakie, wakie

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: No tony, that is not how it works. As I told you our government is "corrupt". In order to get an citizenship, you have to spent an small fortune. Lots of paperwork and fees. As I mentioned before just to renew an "green card" costs now $600.- ( per person) plus all the hassles to get your fingerprints/picture, travel cost etc. and then have to wait more than an year to finally get your renewed card. Let alone when you are applying for the first time. Thus I can imagine that an poor Mexican etc. can't afford that for an whole family. Therefore an path to citizenship is for them not that easy; especially you have to be just about an lawyer to be able to read the government jargon and the applicants may not have all the needed paperwork. If you miss one item then you are in trouble or can not fill in one "square" you can lengthen the process by month's as well the cost goes up. No things are not as simple as our "candidates" portray.

    I have a very good friend who is from East Germany and has worked here using his green card for over ten years now. He has talked to me about the green card process and his experience is the exact antithesis of everything you just said.

    My best friend's fiance just went through the citizenship process after living on a green card for fifteen years. Her experience is also the exact antithesis of everything you just said.