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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    In the face of dire outcomes why is it doubtful that young Bernie supporters either won't vote for Hillary or won't vote. Answer: "Piss and vinegar".
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Ignorance and misguided hate. I should add that as a former precinct chair I really reached out to the young voters in 2012 and 2014. They seemed uninterested...apathy is the word. Now they have needed to place blame so they add hate to their reasons.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: In the face of dire outcomes why is it doubtful that young Bernie supporters either won't vote for Hillary or won't vote. Answer: "Piss and vinegar".

    Yea, Schmidt said it right.

    Die hard Bernie supporters who have never voted in an election before remind me of the teenager going through puberty who has convinced themselves that they are smarter than their parents. They "believe" they are smarter, so that means they are smarter.

    That's the same with Bernie or Bust millennials. They haven't taken the time to understand how our government actually functions and have convinced themselves that one person and one person alone can solve all of our nations ills.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: In the face of dire outcomes why is it doubtful that young Bernie supporters either won't vote for Hillary or won't vote. Answer: "Piss and vinegar".

    Yea, Schmidt said it right.

    Die hard Bernie supporters who have never voted in an election before remind me of the teenager going through puberty who has convinced themselves that they are smarter than their parents. They "believe" they are smarter, so that means they are smarter.

    That's the same with Bernie or Bust millennials. They haven't taken the time to understand how our government actually functions and have convinced themselves that one person and one person alone can solve all of our nations ills.

    Jared your last line is right on; only Trump all by himself will save this country; I love that, he should tattoo that on his forehead. What a country!!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Jared your last line is right on; only Trump all by himself will save this country; I love that, he should tattoo that on his forehead. What a country!!

    That isn't what my last line said at all. I was talking about Bernie or Bust people, not Trump supporters.

    I guess the same thing could be said about Trump supporters, but the I think the vast majority of Trump supporters are either ignorant buffoons or so anti-Hillary that they would vote for Mr. T before Secretary Clinton.

    The Bernie or Bust people are different. They seem to have convinced themselves that everything Bernie was promising could be accomplished overnight. That's not how things work.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: Jared your last line is right on; only Trump all by himself will save this country; I love that, he should tattoo that on his forehead. What a country!!

    That isn't what my last line said at all. I was talking about Bernie or Bust people, not Trump supporters.

    I guess the same thing could be said about Trump supporters, but the I think the vast majority of Trump supporters are either ignorant buffoons or so anti-Hillary that they would vote for Mr. T before Secretary Clinton.

    The Bernie or Bust people are different. They seem to have convinced themselves that everything Bernie was promising could be accomplished overnight. That's not how things work.

    Bernie never said he could do that all by himself; Trump did; like I said ONLY Trump...... etc. Of course I agree; that most of promises are never realized. Ask Obama.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Jared -- Yes we agree. What has me further flumoxed is the anti-TPP crowd that tried to drown out Rep. Elijah Cummings. After the convention, an MSNBC reporter talked to one of them that refuses to vote for Hillary because of her past support for the TPP. As you know, I spent many many hours doing research on the TPP, and came to the same conclusion as President Obama...that overall it is good for America. Those adversely affected by this landmark piece of legislation are few compared to the enormous benefits. It took me a long while to get there, and I doubt that any of the anti-TPP people in the audience have spent any reading it. Nor do they have any knowledge of how trade works in all the existing trade agreements including the WTO.

    However, I should not be surprised. For many of the Bernie or Bust people, political life began in 2015. There is no history that goes back further in time.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Jared -- Yes we agree. What has me further flumoxed is the anti-TPP crowd that tried to drown out Rep. Elijah Cummings. After the convention, an MSNBC reporter talked to one of them that refuses to vote for Hillary because of her past support for the TPP. As you know, I spent many many hours doing research on the TPP, and came to the same conclusion as President Obama...that overall it is good for America. Those adversely affected by this landmark piece of legislation are few compared to the enormous benefits. It took me a long while to get there, and I doubt that any of the anti-TPP people in the audience have spent any reading it. Nor do they have any knowledge of how trade works in all the existing trade agreements including the WTO.

    However, I should not be surprised. For many of the Bernie or Bust people, political life began in 2015. There is no history that goes back further in time.

    Schmidt, TPP or not, we first got to learn on how to govern; an big "zero" for that. Trade deals are only a small part of the picture. The point is this country has no clue of how other countries work or what their objectives are. Trump shows that every day. Thus TPP is only a very small part of the puzzle. It is all about world wide relationship. Our main objective in the world as far as I know is to have them "dance" to our egocentric objectives, The word is: more money for our "billionaires"
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Schmidt, TPP or not, we first got to learn on how to govern; an big "zero" for that. Trade deals are only a small part of the picture. The point is this country has no clue of how other countries work or what their objectives are. Trump shows that every day. Thus TPP is only a very small part of the puzzle. It is all about world wide relationship. Our main objective in the world as far as I know is to have them "dance" to our egocentric objectives, The word is: more money for our "billionaires"

    A zero on how we govern? Come on man. Stop letting your hatred of this country cloud your thinking.


    I think our government is well aware of how other countries work and what their objectives are. That is why we haven't had a third World War and why we have been able to negotiate with our adversaries without ushering in a nuclear winter.


    Let me see if I can write your response for you:

    "Jared, you are so stupid. America is stupid. America doesn't know anything and wants to make sure that they dominate the entire world. America sucks. Every American is an idiot.

    I blame America for any and everything that goes wrong in this world."

    How does that look for you??

  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    You forgot Island.....