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Melania Trump's speech was a hit...except she plagarized Michelle

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    jaredsxtn Wrote: Well I provided the link to the blog you referenced. Members can decide for themselves whether you cited a far right wing web site as a source or not. (I have a feeling they will realize you cited a far right wing blog if they click on the link I provided.)
    One cannot cite a reference if they don't know the site , you claimed that I referenced a right wing blog or site not me, and why are you so adamant to prove something that you cannot possibly prove without an admission on my part that what you claim to be true is true when it's not, sounds to me like you have a deep rooted feat of being wrong, even if the site does have similar quotes, you still can't claim that I read them , which again I didn't .
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    johnnycee Wrote: One cannot cite a reference if they don't know the site , you claimed that I referenced a right wing blog or site not me,

    As I tried to explain to you earlier--it's very, very easy to fact check people in this day and age. I looked up the Michelle Obama quote you were referencing and the only sites that popped up were far right websites. All of those far right websites traced back to a single blog post written by someone from the far right website Brietbart.com.

    So it was not very difficult to figure out that you were citing a blog written by a Brietbart staffer or citing a blog that cited a blog written by a Brietbart staffer.


    It is my job to fact check claims written by right wingers on this website. I know you don't like it, but I'm going to continue to do it because there is nothing I hate more than right wingers regurgitating right wing talking points. So if you want me to stop calling you out whenever you cite a far right conspiracy theory then stop citing far right conspiracy theories.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Carlitos -- Yes actually if you want to go back centuries, you can find analogous words written to capture the event or mood at the time. Never the exact same sequence of words, but providing the same meaning nevertheless. Words that are never used have little meaning. Words that are used often probably mean that life experiences and history repeat themselves.

    Those doing a word count of the most often used words in all the speeches at the convention to date determined that the most often spoken word was "Hillary". In second place was "Clinton". I would add that the context underlying those spoken words was "hate".

    To be clear, I was referencing the fact that one of the initial Trump defenses could be boiled down to a song lyric from Nine Inch Nails. If the shoe were on the other foot and it was Michelle accused of this, there would be hell to pay and we would never hear the end of it from Republicans.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: One cannot cite a reference if they don't know the site , you claimed that I referenced a right wing blog or site not me,

    As I tried to explain to you earlier--it's very, very easy to fact check people in this day and age. I looked up the Michelle Obama quote you were referencing and the only sites that popped up were far right websites. All of those far right websites traced back to a single blog post written by someone from the far right website Brietbart.com.

    So it was not very difficult to figure out that you were citing a blog written by a Brietbart staffer or citing a blog that cited a blog written by a Brietbart staffer.


    It is my job to fact check claims written by right wingers on this website. I know you don't like it, but I'm going to continue to do it because there is nothing I hate more than right wingers regurgitating right wing talking points. So if you want me to stop calling you out whenever you cite a far right conspiracy theory then stop citing far right conspiracy theories.

    I hate to embarrass you but I actually heard it on a CNN panel talk show also on a CBS TV talk show where they were discussing the possible response's from the Trump people regarding the speech,as I said before, I do not go on this site you speak of, and I am also aware of your hatred towards anything or anyone who does not go in lock step with the Democratic leaders, this what this Nation really needs more hatred.
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    johnnycee Wrote: I hate to embarrass you but I actually heard it on a CNN panel talk show also on a CBS TV talk show where they were discussing the possible response's from the Trump people regarding the speech,as I said before, I do not go on this site you speak of,

    It takes a lot for me to be embarrassed and this thread doesn't come close to that.


    Let me explain how things work in modern day media. CNN, Fox "News", and any other political television show has to fill air time. Their main goal is to keep people glued to their televisions so they will bring on "experts" from various places to yell at each other all day long.

    Some of these "experts" actually are experts, but the vast majority of the time these "experts" are political bloggers who repeat conservative or liberal talking points Ad nauseam. You will never, ever see me repeat a liberal talking point because I actually have a brain for myself and do my own research.

    I have scoured CNN's YouTube page to find the panel you referenced, but surprise surprise, it's not there. If this panel did in fact take place (which I am hesitant to believe because CNN posts nearly every panel discussion on their YouTube page) then I would easily be able to explain who the talking head that brought up Michelle Obama's supposed plagiarism was and draw a direct line back to the Breitbart.com article I referenced earlier.

    johnnycee Wrote: and I am also aware of your hatred towards anything or anyone who does not go in lock step with the Democratic leaders, this what this Nation really needs more hatred.

    Are you accusing me of hating my father, mother, brother, sister-in-law, grandparents, most of my aunts and uncles, and my best man standing up with me at my wedding next month? I personally know more right of center people than left of center people and don't do a litmus test before deciding if they are worthy enough to be my family or friend.

    I don't hate anyone, even the most die hard Trump supporter like yourself. What I don't like is people who repeat Republican talking points as fact. That doesn't mean I hate them; it just means I can't stand it when people "hear something" and repeat it without taking a second out of their busy day to figure out if it's true or not.

    Let's lay off the Ad Hominem attacks if you are able to. You don't know me, my family, or anyone I associate with in real life.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: I hate to embarrass you but I actually heard it on a CNN panel talk show also on a CBS TV talk show where they were discussing the possible response's from the Trump people regarding the speech,as I said before, I do not go on this site you speak of,

    It takes a lot for me to be embarrassed and this thread doesn't come close to that.


    Let me explain how things work in modern day media. CNN, Fox "News", and any other political television show has to fill air time. Their main goal is to keep people glued to their televisions so they will bring on "experts" from various places to yell at each other all day long.

    Some of these "experts" actually are experts, but the vast majority of the time these "experts" are political bloggers who repeat conservative or liberal talking points Ad nauseam. You will never, ever see me repeat a liberal talking point because I actually have a brain for myself and do my own research.

    I have scoured CNN's YouTube page to find the panel you referenced, but surprise surprise, it's not there. If this panel did in fact take place (which I am hesitant to believe because CNN posts nearly every panel discussion on their YouTube page) then I would easily be able to explain who the talking head that brought up Michelle Obama's supposed plagiarism was and draw a direct line back to the Breitbart.com article I referenced earlier.

    johnnycee Wrote: and I am also aware of your hatred towards anything or anyone who does not go in lock step with the Democratic leaders, this what this Nation really needs more hatred.

    Are you accusing me of hating my father, mother, brother, sister-in-law, grandparents, most of my aunts and uncles, and my best man standing up with me at my wedding next month? I personally know more right of center people than left of center people and don't do a litmus test before deciding if they are worthy enough to be my family or friend.

    I don't hate anyone, even the most die hard Trump supporter like yourself. What I don't like is people who repeat Republican talking points as fact. That doesn't mean I hate them; it just means I can't stand it when people "hear something" and repeat it without taking a second out of their busy day to figure out if it's true or not.

    Let's lay off the Ad Hominem attacks if you are able to. You don't know me, my family, or anyone I associate with in real life.

    Obviously you are hard to embarrass just from the tone of your postings, I won't respond to any of your family rantings as I don't where that came from, as I made no such allusions about your family, but you did post that you Hate right wingers etc etc, so you do hate some people, so the above statement about you not hating anyone is false, I suppose.
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    johnnycee Wrote: Obviously you are hard to embarrass just from the tone of your postings, I won't respond to any of your family rantings as I don't where that came from, as I made no such allusions about your family, but you did post that you Hate right wingers etc etc, so you do hate some people, so the above statement about you not hating anyone is false, I suppose.

    It came from what you wrote:

    "and I am also aware of your hatred towards anything or anyone who does not go in lock step with the Democratic leaders"

    Anyone is the vast majority of my family and many of my good friends.

    The post you were referencing is when I said:

    "I know you don't like it, but I'm going to continue to do it because there is nothing I hate more than right wingers regurgitating right wing talking points."

    Note how I did not say there is no one I hate more, but rather nothing I hate more. I have told many of my right of center friends that I hate it when they regurgitate right wing talking points, but I have never once told them that I hate them as people.

    Words have meanings, johnny. I encourage you to not read what you want me to say and instead read what I actually say.

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    Back to the topic, I read earlier that Michelle Obama will give a great speech at both the RNC and DNC conventions. A little humor is appreciated.
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    TJ Wrote: Back to the topic, I read earlier that Michelle Obama will give a great speech at both the RNC and DNC conventions. A little humor is appreciated.

    Someone on a "news" show I watch told me that First Lady Obama was going to endorse a fanciful fiery creature that goes by the name Lucifer instead of Hillary Clinton tonight.

    It must be true because I heard someone on a panel say it on CNN. Or was it CBS? Hell, I don't know. I just heard someone say it. It might have been a homeless person on the subway for all I know. I just know it's true because I heard someone say that Michelle Obama is going to endorse the Devil himself tonight.

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    Huffington Post, July 27: Melania Trump’s Website, Biography Have Disappeared From The Internet

    "The apparent scrubbing job comes after speculation over whether she earned an undergraduate degree, as previously claimed."

    This bit of reporting from a few days ago never got traction. Her biography claimed that Melania Trump graduated from the University of Slovenia. After extensive investigative reporting by several media sources, none could find any evidence that Melania graduated from anything. In fact the time line of events made that virtually impossible. So the Trump family has now quietly removed her biography from the internet.

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    I thought Michelle's speech was very good, it was better than either Obama's or Bill's ,I thought she provided a real spark and a contrast to what the rhetoric was being spoken at this Convention , and after two terms and a wild first term primary battle and a rough first time run at the top spot, She is still optimistic for this country,good for her and I wish her well in what ever she attempts to do whether it would be private or political matters.