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Benghazi, Benghazi...no more


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    So the final Benghazi reports have been issued and like all the other reports before, nothing implicates Hillary Clinton. Yet certain Republicans and Donald Trump cannot accept the facts. He just continues repeating all the conspiracy theories.

    He also asked that the media check with the families of the victims to see what they think of Hillary Clinton. Well Ambassador Stevens sister, Dr Anne Stevens, has chimed in (compliments of Rachel Maddow):

    “It is clear, in hindsight, that the facility was not sufficiently protected by the State Department and the Defense Department. But what was the underlying cause? Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is under-budgeted.

    “I do not blame Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta. They were balancing security efforts at embassies and missions around the world. And their staffs were doing their best to provide what they could with the resources they had. The Benghazi Mission was understaffed. We know that now. But, again, Chris knew that. It wasn’t a secret to him. He decided to take the risk to go there. It is not something they did to him. It is something he took on himself.”

    "She added, “With the many issues in the current election, to use that incident—and to use Chris’s death as a political point – is not appropriate…. I know he had a lot of respect for Secretary Clinton. He admired her ability to intensely read the issues and understand the whole picture.”"

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    Will Trump and his fellow conspiracy theorists now let Ambassador Stevens Rest in Peace? The cognitive dissonance of those who need to believe Hillary is at fault is on display...it must be tearing at their hate.

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    "Will Trump and his fellow conspiracy theorists now let Ambassador Stevens Rest in Peace"

    No. There is nothing objective about Trump or his type. Can they appreciate a great football game where their team lost? Remember what he said about McCain. First, all the bomber pilots and all the rest of the war zone military are heroes. McCain survived and he and all the rest of the prisoners are special heroes. The ones that gave their lives are national heroes. Does Trump consider them failures? Trump can't comprehend the idea of personal example. He also can't comprehend that worthwhile people exist with a purpose outside his circle of perfection. I remember him saying how important golf is to him. He said he made a lot of great deals while golfing. That excludes people that don't golf from his reality. What he considers average is the best. He believes McCain is a failure because he got shot down. Trump's people wouldn't get shot down. In all his rallies he is speaking down to the crowd. The crowd buys it up because they think they are getting something. Consider the contradiction Trump posed talking about McCain. He said the heroes were the pilots that didn't get shot down. So where does that leave him with his support for wounded veterans? There is no room for average people in Trump's world. He says he is going to be the greatest jobs president and then he says he won't raise the minimum wage. Who is he going to make America great for? Hillary and her organization need to throw these contradictions at Trump.

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    Now the tables have turned.

    The Republicans tried to use all the numerous Benghazi investigations to hurt Hillary's chances of getting elected. To a degree, their strategy worked, even though the email "scandal" also helped to defeat her.

    Now, Nancy Pelosi will be starting an independent commission to investigate the January 6 insurrection.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pelosi-announces-a-select-committee-will-investigate-the-jan-6-attack-on-the-capitol-by-a-pro-trump-mob/2021/06/24/55497282-d4f5-11eb-ae54-515e2f63d37d_story.html

    Here's some key points:

    Republican lawmakers who voted against the creation of an independent commission openly worried that its product might negatively affect the GOP in the 2022 midterm election cycle. But the commission would have had a deadline of the end of this year to produce a report; it is far from certain that a select committee would have to function on as tight a timeline.

    Remember, the TEN Benghazi "investigations" lasted for three years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigation_into_the_2012_Benghazi_attack

    The select committee — which will require a majority vote in the Democratic-led House to be formed — is a signal that Pelosi wants to centralize those investigations in one body that will be equipped with subpoena power and tasked with publishing its findings.

    But a select committee is all but guaranteed to be a more partisan forum than an independent commission would have been — meaning the parties may come no closer to a consensus about why Jan. 6 happened and who is to blame for it at the end of the probe than they are at present.

    It is not yet clear how large Pelosi’s planned Jan. 6 panel will be or how the seats on it will be distributed. It is also not clear when she will demand the panel publish its findings. Pelosi said Thursday that the timeline “will be as long as it takes for them — the time they need to do the investigation of the causes of this.”

    “There are two actual paths,” the speaker added. “One is about the root causes of it — the white supremacy, the antisemitism, the Islamophobia, all the rest of it that was so evident. . . . The other is the security of the Capitol and what it means to be ready for such an insurrection.”

    She said that while authorities “could have been better prepared” for that day’s events, “I don’t think anybody would have foreseen an insurrection incited by the president of the United States.”

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    Sure an real investigation is needed. First of all certain questions have to be solved, such as why were there not more national guards or "water cannons" placed there. Also why was the "warning" not taken serious. Who did sweep everything under the rug? How come that these people barely had "guns" or other real weapons, were they instructed that way and by whom? It must have been well planned way before with "instructions".

    Why did not of our other "leaders" take action way before; they should have known what an Trump was all about.

    Anyway it should be clear that regardless of any investigation, that certain "figures" planned this whole thing and others were sound asleep at the helm..