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SCOTUS ruling on Texas abortion laws


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    The Supreme Court's 5-3 decision overturning Texas abortion laws will have far reaching effects beyond just Texas.

    MSN News/New York Times: Abortion Ruling Could Create Waves of Legal Challenges

    "It will certainly prevent the threatened shutdown of clinics in some states, especially in the Deep South, that have been operating in a legal limbo, with Texas-style laws on temporary hold. But legal experts said the effect over time is likely to be wider, potentially giving momentum to dozens of legal challenges, including to laws that restrict abortions with medication or ban certain surgical methods.

    “The ruling deals a crushing blow to this most recent wave of state efforts to shut off access to abortion through hyper-regulation,” said Suzanne B. Goldberg, the director of the Center for Gender and Sexuality Law at Columbia Law School."

    The ruling does have major significance, almost as much as the original Roe vs Wade decision of 1973. It will be interesting to see how this evolves, particularly in the current political discourse. Republicans no doubt will use it to emphasize the importance of getting an anti-abortionist on the Supreme Court. Democrats will do the opposite.

    No matter, Justice Kennedy was the swing vote. Even if Justice Scalia was still alive, the vote would have still gone against Texas.

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    It shows that religion is the curse of humanity; especially in the South; even the Pope has become "milder" related to "gay's" etc. However the "evil-gelicals" never read their "bibles", because it says nowhere that you can't do birth control or have an abortion. By the way Jesus was "gay" (running around with an bunch of "guys") so he did not even know where "kids" came from. Neither did I ever read/heard that the "apostels" had any kids, thus "gay"?; otherwise the "churches" would have elevated those kids to something holy. Not that "gay" is bad; but the churches think so and want all these nutty laws, like "toilets, abortion, birth control etc.
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    It's hard to overstate how huuuuuuge (in The Donald's words) of a deal this is.

    This ruling not only means the Texas law is unconstitutional, but all the laws passed in Republican states that restrict access to abortion are unconstitutional.

    I love how Justice Breyer spent paragraph upon paragraph talking about the various medical procedures in Texas that don't require the onerous upgrades to facilities and admitting privileges at nearby hospitals but have a far higher mortality rate than abortion does. My favorite was how he pointed out that there is a far higher mortality rate for babies born by a midwife at home, but yet Texas law doesn't require midwifes to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.

    The only sad thing is that the anti-choice crowd will soon find another weapon of choice in an attempt to pick away at a woman's constitutional right to choose what to do with her own body. That's why this election is massively important. If Hillary wins then we will have a liberal majority on the Supreme Court for a generation to come; if Trump wins then we will continue having a conservative majority on the Supreme Court for a generation to come.

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    Hillary's latest book had a long paragraph about this topic on page 131;

    "There's overwhelming evidence about what happens when these rights are denied. Texas has defunded Planned Parenthood and refused to expand Medicaid, and maternal mortality doubled between 2010 and 2014. That's the worst in the nation, and it's higher than the rate in many developing countries. Six hundred women have died in Texas - not from abortions, but from trying to give birth. The number of Texas teenagers having abortions actually increased when support for family planning was cut. in one country, Gregg, it went up 191 percent between 2012 and 2014."

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    The United States Supreme Court has struck down a Louisiana law regulating abortion clinics, reasserting a commitment to abortion rights over fierce opposition from dissenting conservative justices in the first big abortion case of the Trump era.

    The Supreme Court struck down a similar Texas requirement in 2016 when conservative Justice Anthony Kennedy joined the four liberal justices to defend abortion rights, but Kennedy retired in 2018 and Republican President Donald Trump replaced him with conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh, with the court moving further to the right.

    Since Kavanaugh joined the court last October, it has sent mixed signals on abortion.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/supreme-court-rules-uphold-abortion-rights-200622132250859.html

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    Vote in November so more balance can be brought to the courts.

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    How often did I say: Your body is your own, it does not belong to the church or government. If people here want to comply with these rules then sell your body to them and become cannon fodder if you wish. Only possible in this country.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    The Supreme Court's 5-3 decision overturning Texas abortion laws will have far reaching effects beyond just Texas.

    MSN News/New York Times: Abortion Ruling Could Create Waves of Legal Challenges

    "It will certainly prevent the threatened shutdown of clinics in some states, especially in the Deep South, that have been operating in a legal limbo, with Texas-style laws on temporary hold. But legal experts said the effect over time is likely to be wider, potentially giving momentum to dozens of legal challenges, including to laws that restrict abortions with medication or ban certain surgical methods.

    “The ruling deals a crushing blow to this most recent wave of state efforts to shut off access to abortion through hyper-regulation,” said Suzanne B. Goldberg, the director of the Center for Gender and Sexuality Law at Columbia Law School."

    The ruling does have major significance, almost as much as the original Roe vs Wade decision of 1973. It will be interesting to see how this evolves, particularly in the current political discourse. Republicans no doubt will use it to emphasize the importance of getting an anti-abortionist on the Supreme Court. Democrats will do the opposite.

    No matter, Justice Kennedy was the swing vote. Even if Justice Scalia was still alive, the vote would have still gone against Texas.

    Although the Supreme Court overturned the Texas law shown above, legislators found a sneaky way around the ban by creating a bounty system involving ordinary citizens.

    Planned Parenthood sent out a long letter yesterday explaining why this is so dangerous.

    There's been a lot of confusion and misinformation about S.B. 8, the new extreme abortion ban set to take effect in Texas tomorrow unless the Supreme Court intervenes.

    We all need to understand exactly why S.B. 8 is so dangerous before we can fight against it and similar attacks on our rights in other states.

    Check out the quick FAQ below, and then sign your name to say you'll stand with Planned Parenthood and do whatever you can to defend abortion access in Texas and beyond.

    What does it mean to ban abortion at six weeks?

    S.B. 8 — and similar bans in other states — make it illegal for someone to get an abortion if they are more than six weeks pregnant.

    Many people will not know they are pregnant by six weeks. Even those who do would have an extremely narrow window of time to comply with this cruel law. A person would need to quickly consider their options: consult with a doctor and other trusted people in their life, find a provider, schedule an appointment, receive a state-mandated in-person “counseling” session, and get an abortion — all in just a couple of weeks. For most people, S.B. 8 is a complete and total ban on abortion.

    Does S.B. 8 include exceptions for cases of rape or incest?

    No. Not to mention, this ban is especially dangerous since Texas also requires parental consent and notification for minors seeking abortion. That notice and consent must also occur within that “six-week” window.

    What does the “bounty” provision mean? Is it true that it rewards people who sue others for “aiding and abetting” an abortion?

    Texas is the first state to empower private citizens to enforce an abortion ban. Under this law, anyone, anywhere in the United States, can sue a person who helps a patient access abortion in Texas after six weeks. There is no other state with a ban similar to this.

    The law awards at least $10,000 for every successful lawsuit against anyone who helps a person access abortion after six weeks: friends, family, doctors. Anti-abortion activists have already established “tip lines” to solicit accusations to bully and intimidate patients out of the care they need.

    Who is allowed to sue people who help others get an abortion?

    The Texas law lets any private individual use the courts to try to block abortion access. An abusive partner can sue an abortion provider — or anyone else who helps an abortion patient — and be awarded thousands of dollars if they succeed. A controlling parent, a local pastor, a random stranger, even a paid anti-abortion activist can take advantage of this legal authority to try to block Texans from getting the health care they need, and reap the rewards.

    Who can be sued?

    Lawsuits could target a doctor, friend of a person seeking abortion, health center, nonprofit group (such as an abortion fund), or anyone else who helps assists a patient get a safe, constitutionally protected abortion after six weeks of pregnancy.

    This law seems clearly unconstitutional. Won't the courts stop it? How is the Supreme Court involved?

    We are suing in federal court to block this law, but so far, it is scheduled to take effect tomorrow. Every day that the federal courts allow this law to stand is a direct assault on our health and rights, and a threat to abortion access nationwide.

    Yesterday, we asked the U.S. Supreme Court to step in to protect access to abortion in Texas. If the Supreme Court does not intervene, Texas's abortion ban will go into effect on Wednesday.

    Separately, the Supreme Court is already set to hear arguments in a different case concerning Mississippi's 15-week abortion ban. Missisissippi has outright asked the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade. If it succeeds, and if this Texas law goes into effect, abortion access will be radically altered for generations to come.

    What is Planned Parenthood doing to protect patients in Texas?

    M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I

    The river and the state are spelled the same.

    Let's be clear: Planned Parenthood is not alone in this fight. We have joined a coalition that includes the Center for Reproductive Rights, the Lawyering Project, and the ACLU to file a lawsuit to block S.B. 8. And we are working with advocates, organizers, patients, doctors, and community groups on the ground to provide direct support for patients.

    Supporting patients in this moment includes making sure they know the law and their options, and helping patients with travel and other assistance if they need to seek an abortion out of state.

    Planned Parenthood will never stop working to protect reproductive health and rights. We will not turn our backs on patients — not in Texas, not anywhere. You can help by forwarding this message and sharing these facts with people you know.

    You can sign your name to say that you're willing to do whatever you can to help protect abortion access in Texas and everywhere it's under attack. We need you with us, Thomas.

    We'll keep you informed in the days and weeks ahead as this situation unfolds in the courts and on the ground in Texas. Thank you, as always, for standing with patients.

    Planned Parenthood

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    Again it shows how terrible "dumb" this country has become; the Supreme Court is still in the "hands" of the GOP , due to the stupidity of Pelosi and Schumer just weeks before the elections. But regardless of that, it means that the "church" is now solidly embedded into governing. It may as well become an Taliban like government. Again it shows that you can't govern under the present "system" if the Supreme Court is now also totally "partisan". If I look at the total "picture" of this country now, then forget an "good" future for it. It is absurd that "women" are now "forced" to get an "kid" who they don't want and get even more penalized if they refuse to give birth to it. The only solution is to leave TX and settle in another State.

    It also means that the Fed's have no longer have an say into what individual States do or chose another course than the country itself. Forget "uniformity" or the word "United". This whole country consists of "loose sand castles" and no brains.

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    Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, along with several other states , filed a suit in December to overturn the 2020 election.

    Four days after it was filed, the Supreme Court rejected Paxton's lawsuit, ruling unanimously that Texas had no legal standing to complain about how other states conducted their elections.

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/02/01/election-fraud-donald-trump-lawyers-ken-paxton-texas-attorney-general-complaint/4341691001/

    So, for those greedy bastards hoping to collect $10,000 for suing somebody connected to an abortion, THEY HAVE NO LEGAL STANDING , so they can have intercourse with themselves.

    In order to have legal standing, a person needs to show that they have somehow been harmed, and legal abortion does not harm anyone except the fetus.

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    In Texas, not only does the new law outlaw abortions as early as six weeks into a pregnancy (when many women don’t even know they’re pregnant) but it essentially “deputizes” citizen vigilantes by allowing individuals to file civil suits against abortion providers or anyone who helps a woman seeking the procedure. Violators of the law will be made to pay $10,000 to the person who successfully brings the claim.

    I’d guess the robed and bearded gentleman now running Afghanistan would much admire such a law

    And as I said, Arizona may not be far behind.

    In the past legislative session, the Republicans who control the Arizona Legislature also passed a bill that seems to be in clear violation of the rights affirmed about 50 years ago in Roe v. Wade.

    Speaking for Democrats, Rep. Athena Salman issued a statement on Wednesday that read in part, “The Republican party’s contempt for women has never been clearer. Every Republican – male and female – in the Arizona Legislature voted for our state’s SB 1457, which also bans abortions, certain forms of birth control, and takes effect later this month without court intervention.

    A Republican Party controlled by (mostly) men who believe it is an assault on their freedom to require face masks to prevent the spread of a deadly virus seem perfectly content to require women to (metaphorically, for now) wear burkas.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/ej-montini/2021/09/01/texas-abortion-law-supreme-court-arizona-next/5683457001/

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    Another Texas ruling, anyone can openly carry a firearm, no permit required. Maybe they'll all shoot themselves in gunfights, that would be good for the Texas culture.

    cnn.com/2021/09/01/us/texas-open-carry-...

    A new pro-gun law in Texas that went into effect Wednesday allows most Texans who legally own a firearm to carry it openly in public without obtaining a permit or training,