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    All things considered Bernie Sanders is having one fantastic historic Presidential Campaign.

    Here are a few facts: Bernie is the oldest person to run for President, Bernie started his campaign with very little name recognition and no one with big bucks would give him a cent but of course he didn't want their tainted scents anyway, the Orwellian World of total bias tried its level best to totally ignore Bernie even though he was bringing in the largest most enthusiastic supporters and those millions of supporters sent him what little they could afford and guess what?! Bernie's supporters made the Robber Barons look like misers and proving a peoples campaign is possible and Bernie being one of the best speech givers and debaters ever attracted millions of more supporters throughout his campaign which explains why Hillary and Trump refused to debate him.

    How did Bernie achieve such enormous success? Bernie simply told the American people the truth about America's Robber Baron, warmongering, fearmongering, lawless, corrupt, criminally dysfunctional government and an intelligent plan to get back that government.

    But more important than the election campaign is the fact that Bernie and his supporters revitalized the 99% Movement and this time there will be no turning back.

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    Connie Wrote:

    All things considered Bernie Sanders is having one fantastic historic Presidential Campaign.

    Here are a few facts: Bernie is the oldest person to run for President, Bernie started his campaign with very little name recognition and no one with big bucks would give him a cent but of course he didn't want their tainted scents anyway, the Orwellian World of total bias tried its level best to totally ignore Bernie even though he was bringing in the largest most enthusiastic supporters and those millions of supporters sent him what little they could afford and guess what?! Bernie's supporters made the Robber Barons look like misers and proving a peoples campaign is possible and Bernie being one of the best speech givers and debaters ever attracted millions of more supporters throughout his campaign which explains why Hillary and Trump refused to debate him.

    How did Bernie achieve such enormous success? Bernie simply told the American people the truth about America's Robber Baron, warmongering, fearmongering, lawless, corrupt, criminally dysfunctional government and an intelligent plan to get back that government.

    But more important than the election campaign is the fact that Bernie and his supporters revitalized the 99% Movement and this time there will be no turning back.

    Bernie's campaign is very much an extension of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Huffington Post, Sept 29, 2013: Why ‘Occupy Wall Street’ Fizzled

    Its message, beyond disdain for the rich, was never entirely clear to many Americans, and indeed its various protests fizzled without much to show — no new leaders, no legislative victories or political change of any kind. If anything, the national mood favored liberal ideas, yet the Occupy protestors never showed any kind of solidarity. The movement is now dead, and will be no more than a footnote to history.

    That was an analysis from 2013. It was leaderless then. The question is, with Bernie Sanders leadership, and now losing the primary to Hillary, will his political revolution be sustained or fizzle out?

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I had wondered a long time ago about what it takes to make a real change. The answer I found was hunger. I never went further to find out if it was starvation or deprivation. Now, with Bernie, it seems that it is comparable deprivation. Unfortunately but substsantiating a change will be the now and future college students indebted for degrees that can't pay back the debt and give them a good life. No matter what happens with the election Bernie and in a very limited extent Trump have brought the problems into real issues. A Clinton or Trump presidency will do nothing to improve conditions unless Bernie's movement creates a Democratic Congress. If that happens then future candidates will out do each other with progressive promises .
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    Schmidt Wrote: That was an analysis from 2013. It was leaderless then. The question is, with Bernie Sanders leadership, and now losing the primary to Hillary, will his political revolution be sustained or fizzle out?

    I'm not even sure he even began a political revolution in the first place, so I don't see how anything will be sustained after the primary season.

    Bernie has been able to draw impressive crowds to his rallies, but he has never really explained to any of his fans how he would ever accomplish one of the countless things he has promised all of them. He's promised them the world without being honest with them about how all of them will be paid for. Taxing the one percent at a 99% rate won't even scratch the surface.


    I readily admit that I was a big fan of him at the beginning and even wrote a blog back in February of this year heaping praise on him, but the more I listened to him the more that praise turned to sourness.

    The more I researched his proposals the more I realized he was being overly rosy at best and outright lying at worst when it comes to how he was going to pay for everything. The same goes when it comes to explaining how he was going to actually get any of his legislative priorities through a deeply divided and highly partisan Congress.

    He's just not being truthful with his supporters about how things get done in this country and that's why I no longer support him.

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    After decisive losses to Hillary in New Jersey, California, and Washington D.C., there is nothing left for the nomination except to persuade the Super Delegates to switch to Bernie before the convention. He has not conceded defeat, he has not endorsed Hillary, and he has not suspended his campaign; the Secret Service is obliged to continue protecting him at enormous tax payer cost until he formally quits the race. That will not likely happen until the Philadelphia convention.

    He is now putting all his energy into rewriting the Democratic Party Platform, getting Debbie Wasserman Schultz fired (successful on that one), getting Hillary to adopt his stump speech demands, and to rally his supporters to run for local and state offices. On this latter point, it seems a bit late for that as the rosters for the remaining primaries and the general election are largely set...unless he is going to encourage a massive write-in campaign. But that's life in Bernie land.

    He also wants open Democratic primary elections with same day registration, but caucuses seem to be okay with him.

    Meanwhile as I read articles and comments in my local newspaper, Bernie supporters remain defiant: "We will never ever vote for Hillary or Trump. Trump is insane and Hillary is exactly the same as a 1980's republican. I didn't vote for her in 2008, and I won't vote for her now. A vote for Clinton is a vote for a republican."

    Independent: Though Bernie's campaign looks busted, local delegates are still with him

    Bernie supporters need a reality check (and a lesson in Civics 101). If Trump is elected, those Bernie supporters who refused to vote for Hillary are in for a rude awakening.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    After decisive losses to Hillary in New Jersey, California, and Washington D.C., there is nothing left for the nomination except to persuade the Super Delegates to switch to Bernie before the convention. He has not conceded defeat, he has not endorsed Hillary, and he has not suspended his campaign; the Secret Service is obliged to continue protecting him at enormous tax payer cost until he formally quits the race. That will not likely happen until the Philadelphia convention.

    He is now putting all his energy into rewriting the Democratic Party Platform, getting Debbie Wasserman Schultz fired (successful on that one), getting Hillary to adopt his stump speech demands, and to rally his supporters to run for local and state offices. On this latter point, it seems a bit late for that as the rosters for the remaining primaries and the general election are largely set...unless he is going to encourage a massive write-in campaign. But that's life in Bernie land.

    Meanwhile as I read articles in my local newspaper, Bernie supporters remain defiant: "We will never ever vote for Hillary or Trump. Trump is insane and Hillary is exactly the same as a 1980's republican. I didn't vote for her in 2008, and I won't vote for her now. A vote for Clinton is a vote for a republican."

    Independent: Though Bernie's campaign looks busted, local delegates are still with him

    Bernie supporters need a reality check. If Trump is elected, those Bernie supporters who refused to vote for Hillary are in for a rude awakening.

    Yes, as an previous Bernie supporter, I certainly will vote for Hillary; but as was said by others, I don't do it out of being wildly in favor of her, but certainly don't want Hitler to run the show here.
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    jaredsxtn and to some extent Schmidt said Bernie's radical platform had no chance of results if elected. Would not the same be true if Trump was elected. He is totally opposed by his party and congress. Even to the extent that many would prefer Hillary over Trump. Could Trump really be dangerous or shunned by his party?

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: jaredsxtn and to some extent Schmidt said Bernie's radical platform had no chance of results if elected. Would not the same be true if Trump was elected. He is totally opposed by his party and congress. Even to the extent that many would prefer Hillary over Trump. Could Trump really be dangerous or shunned by his party?

    Trump doesn't have a platform. Congress could block any and all legislation he proposed, but the President still has the legal authority to interpret how any law should be enforced and the courts would have to step in and decide.

    The main problem with Trump is not the Congress; it's that he would still be Commander-in-Chief of the military and have the ability to launch a nuclear strike at his whim.

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    Back to the topic: BS, I just read that the cost to the tax payers for every day of BS secret service protection is 38,000.00 Not millions or billions but certainly in the category of wasted money. For each 10 days that you continue it's 380,000.00 mister Sanders. Stop while you have some dignity left.
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    I just read where Bernie hauled in $16.4 million in the month of May and has $9.2 million cash-on-hand. He continues to fund raise and is going all the way to the convention, July 25-28. So another month of fund raising for his political revolution.

    He is incredible all right...or perhaps incredulous.

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    TJ Wrote: Back to the topic: BS, I just read that the cost to the tax payers for every day of BS secret service protection is 38,000.00 Not millions or billions but certainly in the category of wasted money. For each 10 days that you continue it's 380,000.00 mister Sanders. Stop while you have some dignity left.
    TJ; this is peanuts if you look at the protection of Mr. Trump; he just about got shot, so he will ask for even more protection. As an example the Dutch King runs around the crowds with barely any protection. When I was there the Prime Minister rode on his bicycle to work every day without any protection. This country looks therefore more like an dictatorship in order to protect the gun culture here. But like you said may be I should move to some place where I don't need protection.
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    Bloomberg: Nearly Half of Sanders Supporters Won't Support Clinton

    "In the two weeks since Hillary Clinton wrapped up the Democratic presidential primary, runner-up Bernie Sanders has promised to work hard to defeat Donald Trump — but he’s given no sign he’ll soon embrace Clinton, his party’s presumptive nominee. Neither have many of Sanders’s supporters. A June 14th Bloomberg Politics national poll of likely voters in November’s election found that barely half of those who favored Sanders — 55 percent — plan to vote for Clinton. Instead, 22 percent say they’ll vote for Trump, while 18 percent favor Libertarian Gary Johnson. “I’m a registered Democrat, but I cannot bring myself to vote for another establishment politician like Hillary,” says Laura Armes, a 43-year-old homemaker from Beeville, Texas, who participated in the Bloomberg poll and plans to vote for Trump. “I don’t agree with a lot of what Trump says. But he won’t owe anybody. What you see is what you get.”"

    The reasons Bernie supporters give is that Hillary is "fundamentally corrupted by the ways of Washington," she is a "corporate candidate", she is "not for the people. She's about money." She's "another establishment politician."

    Wow, it just baffles my mind how badly informed the Bernie or Bust crowd is about Hillary Clinton. They need to do their homework and quit hating. And wow, 22 percent of them plan to vote for Trump because he is not establishment. Sheesh. Sanders spent the last 25 years in Congress.

    Meanwhile the incredulous Bernie Sanders is out doing what he has always been doing. Another major speech tonight. What will he say this time? Revolution, revolution, revolution...

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Bloomberg: Nearly Half of Sanders Supporters Won't Support Clinton

    "In the two weeks since Hillary Clinton wrapped up the Democratic presidential primary, runner-up Bernie Sanders has promised to work hard to defeat Donald Trump — but he’s given no sign he’ll soon embrace Clinton, his party’s presumptive nominee. Neither have many of Sanders’s supporters. A June 14th Bloomberg Politics national poll of likely voters in November’s election found that barely half of those who favored Sanders — 55 percent — plan to vote for Clinton. Instead, 22 percent say they’ll vote for Trump, while 18 percent favor Libertarian Gary Johnson. “I’m a registered Democrat, but I cannot bring myself to vote for another establishment politician like Hillary,” says Laura Armes, a 43-year-old homemaker from Beeville, Texas, who participated in the Bloomberg poll and plans to vote for Trump. “I don’t agree with a lot of what Trump says. But he won’t owe anybody. What you see is what you get.”"

    The reasons Bernie supporters give is that Hillary is "fundamentally corrupted by the ways of Washington," she is a "corporate candidate", she is "not for the people. She's about money." She's "another establishment politician."

    Wow, it just baffles my mind how badly informed the Bernie or Bust crowd is about Hillary Clinton. They need to do their homework and quit hating. And wow, 22 percent of them plan to vote for Trump because he is not establishment. Sheesh. Sanders spent the last 25 years in Congress.

    Meanwhile the incredulous Bernie Sanders is out doing what he has always been doing. Another major speech tonight. What will he say this time? Revolution, revolution, revolution...

    Yes Schmidt; may be not an revolution; but some "brains" will help. If you see all the mistakes our government makes lately, no wonder that people get fed up and may choose the wrong candidate. Lets be "honest" : Hillary will face the same opposition as Obama or worse; then the whole "game" starts over again etc. etc. Do you really think that this country can go on as now with either Hillary or Trump? I doubt it.
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    Predictably, the incredulous Bernie Sanders remained defiant promising to continue his political revolution in an 80 minute speech Thursday night.

    Time: Bernie Sanders Vows to Continue ‘Political Revolution’ in New York

    "Speaking with the cadence and conviction of a viable candidate in midtown Manhattan, Sanders again did not concede the nomination—he lost a large majority of votes and delegates in the Democratic primary to Hillary Clinton—and did not endorse his opponent.

    "Instead, Sanders repeated the familiar rallying cry of his campaign—for nearly 80 minutes. Still able to pack a theater with supporters, bring a screaming crowd to its feet chanting “Run, Bernie, run,” he gave a free-form version of the stump speech he gave hundreds of times in the past year. There were improvised highlights."

    “We’re going to go all over this country because that is what the political revolution is about!” Sanders said.

    "And if anyone in the audience believed Sanders will be sidelined by the Trump-Clinton election, he tried to dispel the notion. “Never, Never lose your sense of outrage!” he cried."

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    And so it goes in Bernie Land...outrage yes, definitely. Reality...oh no. I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy.