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I worry about the crazies, but I'm also pretty confident that the crazies won't win this election. There's just not enough of them...

Trump capitalized off of the massive Republican field and his ability to use the hatred the right wing media has perpetuated these past seven years to his advantage. Fox News and Rush Limbaugh created this monster, but the vast majority of general election voters don't watch Fox News or listen to Rush Limbaugh.

Trump has won millions of fewer votes than Clinton this primary season and will likely be losing in a landslide this November because you can't denigrate every single demographic outside of angry white men and win in a national election. We have far too many people who aren't angry white men to keep him from ever getting the keys to the White House.

Dutch

2016-06-01 10:21:07 AM

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Jared, I'm sorry whoever may "win" is also because of "no choice"; thus may be not by "crazies" but by disillusioned people, who don't agree about the "workings" of the elections, nor the "government" policies. None of the candidates clearly shows any direction related to our wars or expenditure. The total nonsense of "carpet bombing", "eradicating" or refusing Muslims to enter this country, will not solve anything. As long as our foreign policies are only "anti" everything in the world and provoke countries like Russia and China by our actions then there will never be an lasting peace. Thus whoever gets elected is not an "win" for this country. Thus hang your flag half mast in November.

jaredsxtn

2016-06-01 04:34:33 PM

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Dutch Wrote: Jared, I'm sorry whoever may "win" is also because of "no choice"; thus may be not by "crazies" but by disillusioned people, who don't agree about the "workings" of the elections, nor the "government" policies.

Not surprisingly, I disagree.

The cognitive dissonance in this country just baffles me. Crime is at an all time low. The unemployment rate is at historical lows. Take home pay is up. Civil and human rights are becoming more and more equal for the first time in our nations history. Seriously--what are you so angry about all the time?

Hillary is a hell of a lot better choice than Donald Trump. Do you trust her or Trump with the nuclear codes? What about invading a non-combatant country? Do you think her tax policy would be the same as Trump? What about her stances on civil rights?

Suggesting that we have no choice in this election is laughable.

Dutch Wrote: None of the candidates clearly shows any direction related to our wars or expenditure.
As long as our foreign policies are only "anti" everything in the world and provoke countries like Russia and China by our actions then there will never be an lasting peace. Thus whoever gets elected is not an "win" for this country. Thus hang your flag half mast in November.

Why don't you focus on electing individuals to the House and Senate that will cut our military spending? The President doesn't write the budget.

Dutch Wrote: The total nonsense of "carpet bombing", "eradicating" or refusing Muslims to enter this country, will not solve anything.

It is a war crime to carpet bomb.

And Donald J Trump can call on refusing Muslims to enter the country, but he will quickly learn that the President is not a king and the real power lies with the Congress and the Courts.

Dutch Wrote: As long as our foreign policies are only "anti" everything in the world and provoke countries like Russia and China by our actions then there will never be an lasting peace. Thus whoever gets elected is not an "win" for this country. Thus hang your flag half mast in November.

Do you honestly believe that our foreign policy is anti-everything are you allowing your anger to cloud your judgement?

The world is at its most peaceful time in all of recorded history. That is a fact. I know that many people hate facts, but they are still facts.

Dutch

2016-06-02 08:51:22 AM

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jaredsxtn Wrote:
Dutch Wrote: Jared, I'm sorry whoever may "win" is also because of "no choice"; thus may be not by "crazies" but by disillusioned people, who don't agree about the "workings" of the elections, nor the "government" policies.
Not surprisingly, I disagree.
The cognitive dissonance in this country just baffles me. Crime is at an all time low. The unemployment rate is at historical lows. Take home pay is up. Civil and human rights are becoming more and more equal for the first time in our nations history. Seriously--what are you so angry about all the time?
Hillary is a hell of a lot better choice than Donald Trump. Do you trust her or Trump with the nuclear codes? What about invading a non-combatant country? Do you think her tax policy would be the same as Trump? What about her stances on civil rights?
Suggesting that we have no choice in this election is laughable.
Dutch Wrote: None of the candidates clearly shows any direction related to our wars or expenditure.
As long as our foreign policies are only "anti" everything in the world and provoke countries like Russia and China by our actions then there will never be an lasting peace. Thus whoever gets elected is not an "win" for this country. Thus hang your flag half mast in November.
Why don't you focus on electing individuals to the House and Senate that will cut our military spending? The President doesn't write the budget.
Dutch Wrote: The total nonsense of "carpet bombing", "eradicating" or refusing Muslims to enter this country, will not solve anything.
It is a war crime to carpet bomb.
And Donald J Trump can call on refusing Muslims to enter the country, but he will quickly learn that the President is not a king and the real power lies with the Congress and the Courts.
Dutch Wrote: As long as our foreign policies are only "anti" everything in the world and provoke countries like Russia and China by our actions then there will never be an lasting peace. Thus whoever gets elected is not an "win" for this country. Thus hang your flag half mast in November.
Do you honestly believe that our foreign policy is anti-everything are you allowing your anger to cloud your judgement?
The world is at its most peaceful time in all of recorded history. That is a fact. I know that many people hate facts, but they are still facts.

Jared, your last paragraph is laughable; guess who is involved in the most "wars" ever? May be not the rest of the world, but certainly we are. Ask our "leaders" how much we spent on all this "peace". Sorry you live in patriotic la la land.

Talking about "war crimes", did Bush/Cheney end up in jail; the Abu Graibe military as well? All the one's who we bombed, raped civilians were prosecuted? Indeed one of the "candidates" promoted "carpet bombing" as well "torture" Why do you keep defending all the wrongs of this country and its ignorant foreign policies? Why does the whole world have to "march" the way we want? China and Russia are already fed up with our meddling in their affairs, which may lead to an WWIII, if we don't watch out. Wake up Jared, you have no clue about what the US is doing beyond their borders. Placing by the US (not NATO) long range missiles in Romania sure makes the Russians happy!! Indeed we are an arrogant stupid country in that respect.

jaredsxtn

2016-06-02 02:54:16 PM

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Dutch Wrote: Jared, your last paragraph is laughable; guess who is involved in the most "wars" ever? May be not the rest of the world, but certainly we are. Ask our "leaders" how much we spent on all this "peace". Sorry you live in patriotic la la land.

I don't have to guess. The answer is China if we are talking about a singular country or Europe if we are talking about a continent. That is unless you are talking about the most wars ever being fought currently (which is an oxymoron).

If that is what you meant then the answer is a bit more convoluted. You seem to only be focused on the conflicts that the US is involved in, but there are dozens and dozens of armed conflicts going on throughout the world right now that we have absolutely nothing to do with.

Dutch Wrote: Wake up Jared, you have no clue about what the US is doing beyond their borders. Placing by the US (not NATO) long range missiles in Romania sure makes the Russians happy!! Indeed we are an arrogant stupid country in that respect.

Yes Dutch, I do know exactly what is going on in this world. And I understand that international politics is more complicated than blaming America for everything that happens in the world.

Russia is playing a dangerous game of chicken with certain NATO countries. What would you say if they decided to invade Romania and test NATO's resolve? The NATO treaty states that an attack on one ally is an attack on all allies. So if Russia invaded Romania then they are inviting WWIII, not us.

Again--can you write any post without bashing every single person in this country for being a stupid, ignorant asshole? What are you angry about all the time?

Dutch

2016-06-03 10:16:15 AM

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jaredsxtn Wrote:
Dutch Wrote: Jared, your last paragraph is laughable; guess who is involved in the most "wars" ever? May be not the rest of the world, but certainly we are. Ask our "leaders" how much we spent on all this "peace". Sorry you live in patriotic la la land.
I don't have to guess. The answer is China if we are talking about a singular country or Europe if we are talking about a continent. That is unless you are talking about the most wars ever being fought currently (which is an oxymoron).
If that is what you meant then the answer is a bit more convoluted. You seem to only be focused on the conflicts that the US is involved in, but there are dozens and dozens of armed conflicts going on throughout the world right now that we have absolutely nothing to do with.
Dutch Wrote: Wake up Jared, you have no clue about what the US is doing beyond their borders. Placing by the US (not NATO) long range missiles in Romania sure makes the Russians happy!! Indeed we are an arrogant stupid country in that respect.
Yes Dutch, I do know exactly what is going on in this world. And I understand that international politics is more complicated than blaming America for everything that happens in the world.
Russia is playing a dangerous game of chicken with certain NATO countries. What would you say if they decided to invade Romania and test NATO's resolve? The NATO treaty states that an attack on one ally is an attack on all allies. So if Russia invaded Romania then they are inviting WWIII, not us.
Again--can you write any post without bashing every single person in this country for being a stupid, ignorant asshole? What are you angry about all the time?

Jared your answer is deplorable; I did not "bash" anything or any one; just told you the "facts" you like so much. You sound to me as the angry one who knows that your views are skewed the patriotic way and put the blinders on. I don't blame you for what our government does; but why defend it with lies. The US is placing these missiles to irritate the Russians, not NATO, get it???

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2016-06-03 11:01:06 AM

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Jared:

Your post of May 31 got me curious, so I looked up the vote totals for Trump and Clinton to date.

As of May 9, Hillary had gotten 12.44 million votes, and "the orange one" had captured 10.65 million votes. If you factor in the fact that Republicans are more likely to vote in primary elections than Democrats, the vote disparity is a very positive trend.

Bad news about Trump seems to come out just about every day lately, and the California lawsuit about Trump "University" just became the latest "arrow n Hillary's quiver".

His "epic meltdown" on June 1 (about his fund raising for veterans) is a further indication that the convention in Cleveland is going to be sheer chaos:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-donald-trump-university-veterans-media-perspec-0602-jm-20160601-column.html

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2016-06-03 02:40:03 PM

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that guy in Arizona Wrote:
Jared:
Your post of May 31 got me curious, so I looked up the vote totals for Trump and Clinton to date.
As of May 9, Hillary had gotten 12.44 million votes, and "the orange one" had captured 10.65 million votes. If you factor in the fact that Republicans are more likely to vote in primary elections than Democrats, the vote disparity is a very positive trend.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-doesnt-like-his-vote-totals-being-compared-to-clintons/article/2590790
Bad news about Trump seems to come out just about every day lately, and the California lawsuit about Trump "University" just became the latest "arrow n Hillary's quiver".
His "epic meltdown" on June 1 (about his fund raising for veterans) is a further indication that the convention in Cleveland is going to be sheer chaos:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-donald-trump-university-veterans-media-perspec-0602-jm-20160601-column.html

I agree Arizona. Far too many people aren't looking at the concrete numbers and are instead focusing on the media attention Trump is getting.

I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but I think Clinton is going to win in a landslide this November. The vast majority of Bernie supporters will line up behind Clinton once all the dust is settled and many Republicans may never vote for Clinton, but they might just stay home in November because they can never allow themselves to vote for Trump.

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that guy in Arizona Wrote:
Jared:
Your post of May 31 got me curious, so I looked up the vote totals for Trump and Clinton to date.
As of May 9, Hillary had gotten 12.44 million votes, and "the orange one" had captured 10.65 million votes. If you factor in the fact that Republicans are more likely to vote in primary elections than Democrats, the vote disparity is a very positive trend.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-doesnt-like-his-vote-totals-being-compared-to-clintons/article/2590790
Bad news about Trump seems to come out just about every day lately, and the California lawsuit about Trump "University" just became the latest "arrow n Hillary's quiver".
His "epic meltdown" on June 1 (about his fund raising for veterans) is a further indication that the convention in Cleveland is going to be sheer chaos:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-donald-trump-university-veterans-media-perspec-0602-jm-20160601-column.html

and i think i am going to be downtown protesting (i live about 40 miles from downtown cleveland). maybe i'll take a couple of vacation days and stir the shitstorm...

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2016-06-05 08:40:35 AM

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