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What are Some "Democrats" so Damn Angry About?

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Pardon my vulgar title, but I'm starting to get really tired of supposed Democrats and liberals throwing temper tantrums about how terrible things are in America. Does anyone remember what things were like before President Obama took office nearly eight years ago?

    Let me list just a few things to remind you that President Obama has been on the most consequential Presidents in our lifetime and offer an alternative of what could have been had neoconservative John McCain been elected in 2008.

    74 Straight Months of Economic Growth
    It's hard to think back to the early days of the financial crisis, but jobs were vanishing at a rate unseen since the Great Depression. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act that President Obama signed into law invested billions of dollars into renewable energy companies, transportation projects, greatly expanded unemployment benefits, and invested billions more in job retraining programs.

    The Alternative: John McCain and Republicans would have likely responded by cutting taxes more in the hopes of getting major companies to stop laying off so many workers.

    Which one do you think was the better route?

    Civil and Human Rights Progress
    Two states allowed same sex marriage when President Obama was elected. Gays serving in the military would be discharged if they were outed. Gay couples couldn't visit each other in the hospital, among many other places. Two years after his election he was able to force through the repeal of Don't ask, Don't tell. Marriage equality became the law of the land less than four years after that. President Obama has also been an ardent proponent of transgender rights and has used the Justice Department to vigorously defend the rights of the LGBTQ community.

    The Alternative: John McCain and and Republicans would have continued their "family values" war against the LGBTQ community. Gay marriage would likely not be legal in all fifty states. And the LGBTQ community would not have the Federal government on their side.

    Which one do you think was the better route?

    Iraq War and International Relations
    Senator Obama campaigned on ending the Iraq war and repairing our damaged relations with the international community. Senator McCain campaigned on injecting steroids into the Iraq war and continuing the neoconservative cowboy international relations.

    Since winning the Presidency, Obama has been able to withdraw the vast majority of our armed forces stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan. He had to stand up to the military industrial complex that wanted to stay entrenched in both countries for various reasons. President Obama has also greatly improved our relationships with Germany, the UK, and France. (I know Dutch disagrees, but I tend to deal in facts and not hyperbole.) He has worked with the international community to get a peaceful deal on Iran's nuclear program and has reopened relations with Cuba for the first time in a generation.

    The Alternative: John McCain and Republicans would have stayed in Iraq and Afghanistan, continue our saber rattling with Iran, and continue to label Cuba as a pariah that has to remain isolated until they bend to our will.

    Which one do you think was the better route?


    So stop your damn bitching "democrats." Ask yourself if you really are worse off under President Obama as opposed to John McCain or Mitt Romney. You may not be able to admit it now, but you're going to miss President Obama once he exits stage left.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    Pardon my vulgar title, but I'm starting to get really tired of supposed Democrats and liberals throwing temper tantrums about how terrible things are in America. Does anyone remember what things were like before President Obama took office nearly eight years ago?

    Let me list just a few things to remind you that President Obama has been on the most consequential Presidents in our lifetime and offer an alternative of what could have been had neoconservative John McCain been elected in 2008.

    74 Straight Months of Economic Growth
    It's hard to think back to the early days of the financial crisis, but jobs were vanishing at a rate unseen since the Great Depression. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act that President Obama signed into law invested billions of dollars into renewable energy companies, transportation projects, greatly expanded unemployment benefits, and invested billions more in job retraining programs.

    The Alternative: John McCain and Republicans would have likely responded by cutting taxes more in the hopes of getting major companies to stop laying off so many workers.

    Which one do you think was the better route?

    Civil and Human Rights Progress
    Two states allowed same sex marriage when President Obama was elected. Gays serving in the military would be discharged if they were outed. Gay couples couldn't visit each other in the hospital, among many other places. Two years after his election he was able to force through the repeal of Don't ask, Don't tell. Marriage equality became the law of the land less than four years after that. President Obama has also been an ardent proponent of transgender rights and has used the Justice Department to vigorously defend the rights of the LGBTQ community.

    The Alternative: John McCain and and Republicans would have continued their "family values" war against the LGBTQ community. Gay marriage would likely not be legal in all fifty states. And the LGBTQ community would not have the Federal government on their side.

    Which one do you think was the better route?

    Iraq War and International Relations
    Senator Obama campaigned on ending the Iraq war and repairing our damaged relations with the international community. Senator McCain campaigned on injecting steroids into the Iraq war and continuing the neoconservative cowboy international relations.

    Since winning the Presidency, Obama has been able to withdraw the vast majority of our armed forces stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan. He had to stand up to the military industrial complex that wanted to stay entrenched in both countries for various reasons. President Obama has also greatly improved our relationships with Germany, the UK, and France. (I know Dutch disagrees, but I tend to deal in facts and not hyperbole.) He has worked with the international community to get a peaceful deal on Iran's nuclear program and has reopened relations with Cuba for the first time in a generation.

    The Alternative: John McCain and Republicans would have stayed in Iraq and Afghanistan, continue our saber rattling with Iran, and continue to label Cuba as a pariah that has to remain isolated until they bend to our will.

    Which one do you think was the better route?


    So stop your damn bitching "democrats." Ask yourself if you really are worse off under President Obama as opposed to John McCain or Mitt Romney. You may not be able to admit it now, but you're going to miss President Obama once he exits stage left.

    I'm glad you paint a "rosy" picture; there is an add on TV which shows neatly dressed "studied" people like you with their heads in the sand; all of a sudden they wake up and run like hell towards a cliff. That is my picture of America. Ask the Romans and Napoleon how that ended.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Dutch Wrote: I'm glad you paint a "rosy" picture; there is an add on TV which shows neatly dressed "studied" people like you with their heads in the sand; all of a sudden they wake up and run like hell towards a cliff. That is my picture of America. Ask the Romans and Napoleon how that ended.

    When did facts become such an anathema to you?


    Is there anything you would give President Obama credit for or does your hatred for this country and the President run so deep that you can't think of a single thing?

  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: I'm glad you paint a "rosy" picture; there is an add on TV which shows neatly dressed "studied" people like you with their heads in the sand; all of a sudden they wake up and run like hell towards a cliff. That is my picture of America. Ask the Romans and Napoleon how that ended.

    When did facts become such an anathema to you?


    Is there anything you would give President Obama credit for or does your hatred for this country and the President run so deep that you can't think of a single thing?

    Jared, what did I say against Obama and hatred towards anyone? I always talked about things in this country as general discussion points. I even in my replies to Schmidt complimented Obama for his attitude and patience related to the GOP obstructions. I've got no hatred against anyone, except may be if they kill my wife; I just point out things which don't work here or are obstructed/corrupted because of the system here. Of course some people like to stay naïve; so who cares. Get real and don't talk things straight which are not straight, like you do, especially defending the mistakes our government makes on a daily basis; we call that being a hypocrite.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Dutch Wrote: Jared, what did I say against Obama and hatred towards anyone? I always talked about things in this country as general discussion points. I even in my replies to Schmidt complimented Obama for his attitude and patience related to the GOP obstructions. I've got no hatred against anyone, except may be if they kill my wife; I just point out things which don't work here or are obstructed/corrupted because of the system here. Of course some people like to stay naïve; so who cares. Get real and don't talk things straight which are not straight, like you do, especially defending the mistakes our government makes on a daily basis; we call that being a hypocrite.

    The original post was pointing out the massive progress we have made as a country in the past eight years and offering a hypothetical alternative history had Senator McCain won in 2008 or Mitt Romney won in 2012.

    It also discussed my frustration with supposed Democrats who bitch about everything under the sun and seem to be completely oblivious to the successes of the Obama Presidency.

    You responded by saying I had my head in the sand without addressing a single topic that I talked about.


    And how am I a hypocrite? A hypocrite is someone who claims to have a moral standard who doesn't abide by that standard. You can disagree with me all you want, but no one can accuse me of that.