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Bernie is kind of mad at the Dems.

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  • Independent
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    I found the following published about the Dems convention; it shows that this horrible woman Wasserman Schultz tries to keep Bernie out.

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders on Friday threatened a floor fight over rules and platform planks at the party's summer convention on Friday, warning the Democratic National Committee not to stack the convention's standing committees with supporters of Hillary Clinton.

    The prospect of a procedural wrench thrown into the party's flagship event is likely to cause headaches for Democratic leaders trying to forge a united front against Donald Trump, the likely Republican nominee.

    Sanders has amassed some 9 million votes during the nation's primaries and caucuses, and has said even if he fails at getting the final nomination, he wants to shape the party's agenda on issues like wealth disparity, financial reform and the role of big money in politics. He says the standing committees that consider the party's platform and rules should reflect the number of votes he's received in the 2016 primaries and caucuses.

    "I will not allow them to be silenced at the Democratic National Convention," Sanders wrote of his supporters to Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman in a letter to Schultz.

    The platform committee considers the party's stance on a wide range of policy issues while the rules committee sets the guidelines governing the convention. Sanders' letter came after the candidate spoke with the chairwoman by phone earlier this week.

    "If the process is set up to produce an unfair, one-sided result, we are prepared to mobilize our delegates to force as many votes as necessary to amend the platform and rules on the floor of the convention," Sanders wrote.

    Luis Miranda, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said "because the party's platform is a statement of our values, the DNC is committed to an open, inclusive and representative process. Both of our campaigns will be represented on the drafting committee, and just as we did in 2008 and 2012, the public will have opportunities to participate."

    Clinton holds a sizable lead of more than 300 pledged delegates and has received about 3 million more votes than Sanders during the primaries. Including superdelegates — the elected party leaders and officials who can choose the candidate of their choice — Clinton is more than 90 percent of the way to clinching the nomination.

    In the letter, Sanders notes that Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy will be in charge of the convention's platform committee and former Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank will run the rules committee. He calls both "aggressive attack surrogates on the campaign trail" for Clinton.

    Sanders said he submitted the names of more than 40 people to serve on three standing committees and only three of his recommendations were selected by Wasserman Schultz. He said none of his supporters were assigned to the rules committee.

    The Vermont senator has vowed to campaign through the end of the primary season in mid-June and advocate at the convention for his policy goals on addressing wealth inequality and overhauling the campaign finance system. He has also criticized states that do not allow independents to participate in Democratic contests or states that do not allow same-day registration.

    Connecticut Democratic Party spokesman Leigh Appleby said that while Malloy endorsed Clinton and may have differences with Sanders on certain issues, "we are confident that the platform committee will come together behind a core set of values that unite us as Democrats."

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  • Liberal
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    Yes Dutch, DWS is a fine example of a Democrat version of a Republican slime ball. She supports Hillary over others, has no idea what she is talking about most of the time, seems to relish the notoriety and TV/media exposure more than doing her job, and supports everyone other than the poor, the middle class and minorities, i.e. she loves the 1%, everyone else - to so much. She and Hillary are a perfect match (made in heaven, wherever that is)!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    How many top republicans will come out openly supporting Hillary .. Trump's immunity is staggering again. He eats a distorted concoction of Mexican food sitting on top of a picture of Marla Maples in a bikini competing in a beauty conquest served appearing mockingly at his own grill.
  • Independent
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    pr Wrote: Yes Dutch, DWS is a fine example of a Democrat version of a Republican slime ball. She supports Hillary over others, has no idea what she is talking about most of the time, seems to relish the notoriety and TV/media exposure more than doing her job, and supports everyone other than the poor, the middle class and minorities, i.e. she loves the 1%, everyone else - to so much. She and Hillary are a perfect match (made in heaven, wherever that is)!

    P.R. Thanks. Bernie said we need a revolution; yes I think that will be the only thing left to revamp the ingrown toe nail.

    Sorry to say if you built up a country on one "old" document and you allow "wild" grow and "powerhouses" to rule, then eventually you drown in the ton's of useless paperwork and provoke "greed" and "corruption" by millions including plenty of "lawyers" who are the parasites of this country. Both parties struggle with the above and then become dislocated and dis-oriented.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: P.R. Thanks. Bernie said we need a revolution; yes I think that will be the only thing left to revamp the ingrown toe nail.

    There are more guns than people in this country. What could possibly go wrong if we force a revolution down the throats of the fifty plus percent of the population who doesn't want it?

    Revolutions work when the vast majority of the populace forces one. They don't really work when the person leading the way doesn't have the support of half of one political party, let alone the vast majority of an entire nation.

  • Liberal
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    Bernie was talking about and intellectual and educational revolution, a revolution in the way people think, NOT a gunfight revolution.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    A physical revolution takes massive hunger to materialize. People can and endure massive amounts of suffering before reacting. I researched this awhile ago to find out what it takes for civil revolt.
  • Independent
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    pr Wrote: Bernie was talking about and intellectual and educational revolution, a revolution in the way people think, NOT a gunfight revolution.
    Yes; that is the way I see it; the only big problem with the present system, you can't change "mentalities" overnight; you've got to "hammer" out the "greed" and " arrogance" as well as being hypocrites in governing a country. Capitalism prevents such, especially if the media is controlled by only a few very rich moguls. Bernie is a good start.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    pr Wrote: Bernie was talking about and intellectual and educational revolution, a revolution in the way people think, NOT a gunfight revolution.

    But words mean things. And the literal definition of revolution is the forcible overthrow of a government or social order.


    Look--I love many of the things that Bernie stands for, but the truth of the matter is that a large chunk of people in this country don't. All I was pointing out is that you can't usher in the types of changes he wants to make to this country if the vast majority of the populace isn't willing to do what it takes to make it happen.

    The reason many European countries have the types of services that Bernie wants to bring to America is because they are taxed at an extremely high rate and that's just a non starter for millions of Americans. We can bash them all we want, but that's just the simple truth.

    We can tax the rich at a 99% rate and we still won't be able to pay for the things he wants. That's what he keeps refusing to talk about. If we were to usher in the reforms he wants to make then taxes will be dramatically raised on every single income group. That's just a fact.

    I'm fine with paying more taxes for these types of services and think it would be a wise thing to do, but we have to elect people in Congress who will actually make those reforms. Congress writes tax laws; not the Executive.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "We can tax the rich at a 99% rate and we still won't be able to pay for the things he wants. That's what he keeps refusing to talk a"

    Don't get distracted thinking that taxes are for payments. Taxes can be used constructively to move money to create businesses and jobs.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: "We can tax the rich at a 99% rate and we still won't be able to pay for the things he wants. That's what he keeps refusing to talk a"

    Don't get distracted thinking that taxes are for payments. Taxes can be used constructively to move money to create businesses and jobs.

    What do you think taxes are for? We have to make payments towards Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. We have to make payments to the SNAP program and transportation projects as well. It's called mandatory spending for a reason.

    Discretionary spending is different. Our taxes do pay for discretionary spending, as well, but not nearly to the extent that our taxes pay for mandatory spending.

  • Center Left
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    There is one issue that is paramount to me. That is campaign finance reform including revocation of Citizens United. Remember that the Republican party has been kind enough to leave a seat open in the Supreme Court, so Citizens United can be successfully contested with a judge that is smart enough to know that money is not free speech. I believe that there are well over 50% of Americans that are for this. Sadly, once again millions of dollars that could go to worthwhile programs are going to be spent on stupid attack adds that are not beneficial to anyone but the rich people that invested in them for the sake of political influence. Four more years of a gridlocked Congress that is afraid to make a decision without the affirmation of their big money contributors. I personally don't like the idea of our elected officials spending 30 hours a week or more on fund rising. They even pull officials from committee meetings to do this. To me, this is misappropriation of tax payer money and both parties should be made to pay severe penalties, if they plan to continue these practices. We are currently doomed to staying in the same rut or sinking further down, if urgent action is not taken. This is why Bernie Sanders' voice and the voices of his supporters need to heard loud and clear at the DNC. If the Democrats want to beat Donald Trump, they need get on board with what's right and what's honest, and most important what many voters from both parties want. And if DWS wants to pin her whits against the American people, she is not going to have many whits left to pin next election.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Don't get distracted thinking that taxes are for payments. Taxes can be used constructively to move money to create businesses and jobs."

    jsredsxtn, Let me explain the words for you. "Don't get distracted thinking taxes are for payments" That means that taxes can have other purposes. It doesn't exclude payments but opens up the possibility. e.g. Taxes can be for payments and controlling spending. Gasoline and cigarette taxes curb consumption and provide revenue. A tax on derivatives could curb consumption of derivatives. Giving a deduction is also part of the tax code. Giving credits is also part of the tax code. Doing your taxes can result in a negative or positive, liability or asset. I would like to see derivatives which stagnate astronomical amounts of money be taxed at a rate that renders them unprofitable. I would like to see capitalization of jobs producing businesses be given a tax credit. That would influence money to be spent producing jobs which intern would be a credit increasing tax revenue.

  • Independent
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    May be I'm a simple minded European thinking asshole, but if I follow the discussion, then no one seems to know why it works in Europe and not here, about what Bernie proposes. First of all in Europe there are also plenty of millionaires, who even got houses in Malibu. So don't worry about them. The main issue is on how the tax money is spent. Here it is total lobsided and most of it disappears in a non-return system to the society. So lets first start with "healthcare" . The healthcare system here is a disaster, because it was never built up from the ground. So it is all kind of "pieces" put together to please certain parties like the "doctors" the "pill makers" as well lobbyists (which are not allowed in Europe) in the industry. In Europe they have a much better oversight on the whole "picture" about "cost" as well "fines" for whom which are trying to screw the system. A typical problem here is ; they make plenty of "laws" and "rules" but then forget to built a "controlling agency", because no one thought of that or the money was not allocated for such etc. Thus a Bernie thing could work here if we would be able to start with a clean well controlled slate; having full control over doctors (who totally overcharge the insurance), hospital, pill makers cost etc. ( Our Mr, Scott FL became a multi millionair by "milking" hospitals and did not get convicted for it, but bought his position as Governor from it) In general the whole government system here, is built up from a as you go, piece by piece system, so nothing is coherent and efficient but mostly corrupt. Especially our military and plenty of agencies have "wild growth" As I said many times the "real" oversight is missing on "spending" because it is all "politicized " What is in it for me". (money talks) As an example military "hobby" projects, like super ships and aircraft, costing billions as well exceeding an already "ballooned "contract "price" by sometimes double the cost as contracted . Don't forget the maintenance and upkeep of those complicated toys, which cost also billions over the years. Handing out billions to dictators, who accounts for that?; I doubt if a Maliki or Karzai now lives in a burned out shack, as well "loosing" unaccounted billions "somewhere".. There is so much "waste" in this government it is absolute unbelievable, let alone the cost of our war efforts, all over the world. Don't forget either the billions spent and wasted on "elections"; that money could have been invested for better things than making the few billionaires, who run the media, here even richer etc. etc.

    With all that wasted money, you could indeed run a proper healthcare system and social services as well do something to fix the infrastructure. Talking about infrastructure, that pays for itself. How about high speed trains or metro systems; it gives plenty of people work and returns public transport to poor people who can't afford plane tickets as well relieves our ever growing traffic on our roads etc. THINK AMERICA forget the "island" mentality. "We know everything better; "god bless us", replace such with "someone" gave us "brains" (not money) thus use them.

  • Independent
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    I guess now everyone is quiet; I gave some of these suggestions many times, but I guess the mentality here is " let the ship sink", if we get Trump, then everything gets fixed automatically. Thanks. the truth hurts.

    P.S the latest in our "efficiency" There are now huge complaints about the TSA, which has become an "monster", a lot of airports are considering kicking them out and start a "private " security system. Again I have to cry; actually Bin Laden laughs from his grave, because he actually "won". Travel by air has become a royal pain as well the cost in your ticket.

    Indeed there should be simpler ways to "screen" people, without loosing actual security. Like a pre-screened document provided by the local police for instance. Of course for a real terrorist there are plenty of ways to enter this country by other means; thus percentage wise 98% of the by air travelling public does not pose a threat; thus why screen a kid of 3 years old or an invalid US citizen as an capable terrorist and have remove them just about all their clothes? What are the chances that they blow up an high rise or the plane? Again "overkill" by our government.