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Why We Must Elect Bernie

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    I believe in Bernie, he has been such an extraordinary man all his life, & has so much experience in many levels of govt. He is a truth talker, no pretense, level-headed optimist. We would all love to have him as a relative, a neighbor, or a friend.

    Sometimes, things look a little bit difficult. Rejoice! I can feel something in the air -- the kind of feeling that clairvoyants often feel, when a "Miracle" is about to happen. (Against all odds). YOU can make it Happen.

    PLEASE go out & VOTE with all your heart. Vote as if the world depends on it. -- Because it does.

    Please listen to this beautiful inspiration; (one of the most beautiful I have ever seen):

    "If you believe in Miracles " ------ youtu.be/3aGPp3Xt-SY

  • Liberal Democrat
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    EF -- Yes Bernie Sanders is a good man...an extraordinary man. However, sometimes it takes more than that to win the nomination. The miracle didn't happen tonight with Hillary taking four out of the five states. His only path to victory would require something really bad to happen to Hillary in the next couple of months.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    I should also add that I hope that Bernie stays in the race right up to the convention. His messaging about big money in politics, inequality, climate change, health care, immigration and a few other issues is strong. I disagree with him on trade.

    Otherwise he has tapped into a demographic that I, as a former precinct chair for the Democratic Party, was unable to inspire. I just hope that he focuses on the issues and not on casting Hillary as a villain. Many of his very passionate supporters have become Hillary Haters. Hate doesn't win elections.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I should also add that I hope that Bernie stays in the race right up to the convention. His messaging about big money in politics, inequality, climate change, health care, immigration and a few other issues is strong. I disagree with him on trade.

    Otherwise he has tapped into a demographic that I, as a former precinct chair for the Democratic Party, was unable to inspire. I just hope that he focuses on the issues and not on casting Hillary as a villain. Many of his very passionate supporters have become Hillary Haters. Hate doesn't win elections.

    Schmidt, the only thing I hope is that Hillary copies a lot of his idea's and indeed is serious about it and does not just uses such to get more votes in November. I've said enough about Hillary; a lot of members are not too wild about her, neither am I. Why have again Clintons in the White House?; at least Bill will have a ball in chasing "real" women, because she will be way too busy to keep him in check. He must be fed up with all her weird trenchcoats as well. So I think he may be kicked out eventually, so the media will have a hay day.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I should also add that I hope that Bernie stays in the race right up to the convention. His messaging about big money in politics, inequality, climate change, health care, immigration and a few other issues is strong. I disagree with him on trade.

    Otherwise he has tapped into a demographic that I, as a former precinct chair for the Democratic Party, was unable to inspire. I just hope that he focuses on the issues and not on casting Hillary as a villain. Many of his very passionate supporters have become Hillary Haters. Hate doesn't win elections.

    Not "Hillary" haters, policy haters. Bernie's passionate supporters have been passionate about bad lower class conditions for a long time. That Bernie has legitimized the conditions has a good possibility of bringing out like minded candidates for all offices. Poverty is now no longer an inconvenient truth. It is viable platform material.
  • Center Left
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    Well 5 states were up for grab. 3 really tiny states and 2 full size states. How did that turn out BS ? Sorry.

    But seriously BS is a great guy. Hard worker with many very good ideas on what changes are needed. I've often said that as a VP he could show up to the WH everyday and work to move things in the right direction. He could actively work on many topics and he could lead the way to improving the system.

    I personally wonder why so many haters have pledged to fight against this woman. Seriously I just don't understand. I personally have great faith in the female demographic. I believe we would be very fortunate to have her lead us.

    I had a neighbor who asked "Can you imagine if she is elected president ?" You could have replaced she with "any woman".

    Bill screwed up (ML) but that's a personal issue not a political issue. Maybe questioning why she didn't leave is fair but it wasn't our business. Yes many people with big money have contributed to their foundation. Money must be bad..... I would have been disappointed if Bill left and then did nothing (See GWB) Hillary has fought for healthcare coverage and would do many good things including equal pay. I think many here have gender issues. News flash - it's no longer 1958.

    Edit/Add: Chet, poor people deserve much more than they currently get. Maybe if they spent a little bit of time to vote every 4 years, they would be quantifiable and recognizable.

  • Liberal
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    TJ, Bernie is not going to win and the truth is he never had a chance. We all know that. Bernie's real job is/has been to move Hillary from a Moderate Republican to a Liberal Democrat. Too show her up for what she really is and stands for. It has nothing at all to do with her sex.

    Yes, Hillary is qualified to be President, certainly better than any Republican, but Bernie is more qualified because he understands that Hillary and her types are the problem not the solution. We have to accept and settle for second best and vote for Hillary because the alternative is even more dangerous.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Tj said:"Edit/Add: Chet, poor people deserve much more than they currently get. Maybe if they spent a little bit of time to vote every 4 years, they would be quantifiable and recognizable."

    Poor people are a result of a system. There condition is imposed not selected. Some joined the ranks of the poor after 2008. More will continue to join the ranks of the poor because 2008 wasn't turned around. It was incrementalized with no reinforcement. Increasing the voting turnout of the poor will not have much effect stabilizing the system let alone turning it around.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    Tj said:"Edit/Add: Chet, poor people deserve much more than they currently get. Maybe if they spent a little bit of time to vote every 4 years, they would be quantifiable and recognizable."

    Poor people are a result of a system. There condition is imposed not selected. Some joined the ranks of the poor after 2008. More will continue to join the ranks of the poor because 2008 wasn't turned around. It was incrementalized with no reinforcement. Increasing the voting turnout of the poor will not have much effect stabilizing the system let alone turning it around.

    Chet, I agree. My guess is that indeed it makes no difference, as long as votes don't really count, because they always find ways to influence and manipulate such. Like delegates and super delegates; hanging chat's; bribery, redrawing county lines, every trick in the book or outside the book is used to get a certain person in; you name it.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    To pick up on what TJ was saying, our country and economy would be much better off if President Obama's second stimulus bill in 2011 along with other budget initiatives were not blocked by Republicans. When Ted Kennedy died in 2009, Obama lost his veto proof 60 seat majority in the Senate; and when liberals stayed home in the special election to replace him in 2010 then it was filibuster after filibuster...an unprecedented number. Ditto for the midterms in 2010...an astounding victory across the board for Republicans because liberals, many of them poor people, just did not vote. It is people who do not take an interest in our government and don't vote, or vote out of ignorance, that are responsible for electing George Bush in 2000 and again in 2004....and taking away Obama's mandate to govern in 2010 and 2014.

    We can bitch about everything that Obama has not been able to accomplish, but the fault lies with ourselves.

    “Bad politicians are sent to Washington by good people who don't vote." -- William E. Simon.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    To pick up on what TJ was saying, our country and economy would be much better off if President Obama's second stimulus bill in 2011 along with other budget initiatives were not blocked by Republicans. When Ted Kennedy died in 2009, Obama lost his veto proof 60 seat majority in the Senate; and when liberals stayed home in the special election to replace him in 2010 then it was filibuster after filibuster...an unprecedented number. Ditto for the midterms in 2010...an astounding victory across the board for Republicans because liberals, many of them poor people, just did not vote. It is people who do not take an interest in our government and don't vote, or vote out of ignorance, that are responsible for electing George Bush in 2000 and again in 2004....and taking away Obama's mandate to govern in 2010 and 2014.

    We can bitch about everything that Obama has not been able to accomplish, but the fault lies with ourselves.

    “Bad politicians are sent to Washington by good people who don't vote." -- William E. Simon.

    Schmidt; it is a bit different than that, Why do they have time to vote for Trump? My guess it is not the people but the "non"trust in the government. Most people think it is all rigged anyway and I'm way too powerless to change Washington. So why bother to vote. With the Trump thing, they see it more as an "protest" against the same old establishment and their inability to govern. Also because of Trumps big mouth they love that things get shaken up. The same with Bernie and his followers.

    As I said many times, the whole political system here has to change drastically I order to get voters; no huge "money" in elections, no two party system, but like in Europe multiple parties, term limits on all government positions, no power plays of certain powerful blocks as the Pentagon, CIA, NSA, FBI to get it their way. A president who knows more about what the world around him consist of, as well refuses to play policeman for the world (this should be the role of the UN not the US) and limits our military involvement and confrontation in the world. None of the candidates has this description in their agenda.

  • Center Left
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    Thanks Schmidt. As a poor person (me and many others), we have almost no answers to the bad political process. R's hate and dismiss the poor because they have nothing to give and statistically they don't vote. Therefore they / R's, won't care. If tomorrow every person was ordered / mandated to vote this year.... suddenly politicians would need to be concerned about everyone. It is the wealthy getting continual tax cuts because they contribute to the process with money and influence. R's are a group of exclusionary haters with no intelligent views on the economy, science, the environment, war, jobs, etc.. BUT, They vote. Get in the game and then complain, suggest, advise, or whatever you like is what I would recommend to non voters. "If I was POTUS, I'd..............." save your breathe poor person because nationwide there's less than 2% listening to you. Imagine a Rep debate where participants would be asked what the candidates would do to help the poor. Replies would include:

    DT : I'd tell them get a job. Stop asking for the govt's money. You didn't have healthcare ten years ago so why do you need it today.

    TC : I'd tell them the military is that opportunity you need. Imagine, you can die so a rich kid doesn't have to. Also join a church because they often help the poor. Finally, stop asking for the govt's money. (Military, jobs, church, money....forgot guns....no wait, the military gives you a gun)Er Ted you didn't mention abortion or immigration. @(^%!$ , Dammit, do over

    JK : I'd do these various things....... and I think it could seriously help. Doesn't matter though because I have no chance of winning.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I spent a fair amount of time in poor Appalachian areas campaigning for different officials and causes. When I moved to FL and started business here I communicated with a lot of poor poor people and poor people avoiding the law for different reasons. I think it would be very unusual to get any kind of consensus for any positive social legislation from new poor voters. The very poor poor tend to be right wing conservative self proclaimed patriotic. It is difficult to be poor without a lot of negativity for any process or official function. The poor due to lack of money have all sorts of legal problems and pressures. Judgements, child support, constantly moving income to each new most cataclysmic overdue bill. Car insurance is a unique situation because most of them have no idea whose name is on a car title or to what car license plates belong to. They don't want help, will not vote or do anything that requires identification. The next level up of poor lead a hectic life of meeting obligations. Probably still haven't entered into the ranks of having cable service, newspaper subscriptions or any other exposure to current events.It would be a considerable way up the pay scale before running into poor people that had the luxury of being worried about current events or politics. The poor are too consumed with the real life and death struggle of daily living to vote for their own good. The poor is a single mom with three kids getting up at 5 in the morning to get kids to child care so she can make $10/hour drawing blood. Kennedy was not speaking to her when he said ask not what your country can do for you. He was talking to the people that can make a difference. The reality is Kruzzers and the rest of the right dispising contributing to day care. If the country was run right everybody could have life style maintaing jobs. The simple resolution to all problems is implementing the rights biggest criticsism. Getting paid and not working. All the scenarios of making money and not working require money to be stagnated in credit securities. Stagnating money results in unemployment. One word is the description for financial problems. Gambling. Restricting and reducing gambling would put people to work. The real paradox is that almost every known reputable financier has been and keeps on saying that derivatives are a financial weapon of mass destruction. But nobody has the guts or nerve to tell the MBA's to start retraining. Nobody with a portfolio wants to hear anything about repairing the stock market.