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Bernie Sanders: "Hillary Clinton is not qualified to be President"

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    CNN, April 6, 2016: Bernie Sanders: Hillary Clinton is not 'qualified' to be president

    Hillary Clinton was asked on MSNBC 's Morning Joe whether she thought Sanders was "ready to be president" largely in response to his somewhat fumbling answers to questions from the New York Daily News.

    Hillary Clinton's response: "I think he hadn't done his homework and he'd been talking for more than a year about doing things that he obviously hadn't really studied or understood, and that does raise a lot of questions," Clinton said. "Really what that goes to is for voters to ask themselves can he deliver what he's talking about."

    Bernie Sanders was obviously upset in responding to Hillary's "assertion" at a rally in Philadelphia pushing back by saying that Hillary Clinton was the one "not qualified to be President". He said this to a cheering crowd, again and again:

    "Secretary Clinton appears to be getting a little bit nervous," he told a crowd in Philadelphia. "And she has been saying lately that she thinks that I am 'not qualified' to be president. Well, let me, let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton: I don't believe that she is qualified, if she is, through her super PAC, taking tens of millions of dollars in special interest funds. I don't think that you are qualified if you get $15 million from Wall Street through your super PAC."

    "I don't think you are qualified if you have voted for the disastrous war in Iraq. I don't think you are qualified if you have supported virtually every disastrous trade agreement which has cost us millions of decent paying jobs," he said to applause. "I don't think you are qualified if you've supported the Panama free trade agreement, something I very strongly opposed and, which as all of you know, has allowed corporations and wealthy all over the world people to avoid paying their taxes to their countries."

    What might be missing from the reading of above quotes is that Sanders actually said: "she thinks that I am quote 'not qualified' unquote to be president. He was emphasizing the "quote - unquote" which is patently untrue. Hillary Clinton has never said he was unqualified. That's something he read into it.

    But hey in his now classical "$27 average contribution" part of his stump speech, he will raise a lot of money over that "misspeak". I can't use the word "lie" or the Sanders supporters on this website will go livid.

    And who said Sanders wasn't a savvy politician. He knows how to work the crowd just like Trump. Purity Test 101...all is fair in a revolution.

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    Earlier in the day, as reported by CNN, Clinton campaign and surrogates spoke openly of their strategy to "disqualify" Sanders and "unite the party later" in the coming weeks.

    cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/hillary-cli...

    Bernie's comments later in the day were a response to that telegraphed foolishness. The Clinton camp reaps what they sow. They are operating the most arrogant, smug, and disingenuous campaign since Bush 2004.

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    I looked at your CNN link and the links within the link and could not find a direct quote from Christina Reynolds say that Sanders was "unqualified". That may have been a journalistic interpretation. But let me say this. Bernie Sanders has had the luxury of not having his various plans and proposals vetted by the mainstream media. I've found websites like Vox and a few others that have attempted to make sense of his numbers, but when asked, Bernie always seems to revert to his stump speech about the "revolution". He clearly is not comfortable in being questioned in-depth on his proposals.

    I really doubt that many of his young supporters understand the "fine print" of his proposals. For example, the "free college" has a lot of caveats that may make it unworkable in any state except perhaps Vermont and California. He should be asked to explain that and come clean with the young people. They will be so disillusioned with him if he indeed becomes president and cannot deliver on that basic proposal. Ditto for a bunch of the others.

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    Bernie is looking more and more presidential every day while Hillary is exposing herself for the true Republican lite phony she has always been. I'm finding her even more repulsive and disgusting than the Republican clowns every time she opens her mouth and changes her values trying to catch up with Bernie. I hope he buries her and her type for good but, I'm afraid, the typical American voter is to shallow to understand how fortunate we are to have someone as honest and truthful as Bernie.

    I'm afraid we are in for some very difficult times in this country and we can only blame ourselves.

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    pr Wrote:

    Bernie is looking more and more presidential every day while Hillary is exposing herself for the true Republican lite phony she has always been. I'm finding her even more repulsive and disgusting than the Republican clowns every time she opens her mouth and changes her values trying to catch up with Bernie. I hope he buries her and her type for good but, I'm afraid, the typical American voter is to shallow to understand how fortunate we are to have someone as honest and truthful as Bernie.

    I'm afraid we are in for some very difficult times in this country and we can only blame ourselves.

    P.R. and Carlitos, sure in this situation it shows "a lot of cracks in the China made drywall". My guess is, that the problem is, that this country refuses to step "outside the box" of our own created mess. Neither Bernie or Hillary can solve that; of course Bernie has a good vision, but I think this country is not "ripe" for it; we like to retain our old stuck in the rut culture, just like the "evilgelicals" who put the brakes on any progress. As long as the "island" thinking here continuous then it will be the same "old" all over again. My disappointment is that none of the candidates is actually suited for the job. I'm amazed that in a country of more than 350 million people, no one can be found suited for the job. We come up with an old man who can get an heart attack any moment and a lawyer lady who was the wife of an ex-president who thinks she knows it all, but does not even know on how to dress. A very poor showing to the outside world.
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    Schmidt, You present a valid argument but then inappropriately use an exception to define a generality. Hillary is 30 years of failure to build a society. Proven. Bernie has the concept of society. Hillary is indivudualism. You and I were both impressively impressed with Hillary's Benghazi Senate Hearing. I was impressed beyond imagination how she withstood the onslaught of skilled antagonistic prosecutors with cool calm 100% valid logic and and responsive answers. You went one step further saying how that positively affected your support for her. That doesn't follow logically. You are using the same logic in reverse to go beyond the interview using it to discredit Bernie. I have never seen Hillary stumble, fumble or lose a question. But I know she supported moving people into poverty. Millions of kids. She was recently honored by the founder of the Children's Defense Fund. She has license beyond comprehension but the culmative effect is negative to the helpless.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: I have never seen Hillary stumble, fumble or lose a question. But I know she supported moving people into poverty. Millions of kids. She was recently honored by the founder of the Children's Defense Fund. She has license beyond comprehension but the culmative effect is negative to the helpless.

    I don't understand your logic. First you state that she supported moving millions of kids into poverty? Then you point out that she was recently honored by the founder of the Children's Defense Fund. I don't see those contrary points. Are you saying she wasn't deserving of the honor?

    Anyway, I have made a quick cherry picked list out of Wikipedia that seems to contradict your assertion that she moved millions of kids into poverty. Read below:

    From the Wikipedia link on Hillary Clinton:

    Following the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., Rodham organized a two-day student strike and worked with Wellesley's black students to recruit more black students and faculty. In her student government role, she played a role in keeping Wellesley from being embroiled in the student disruptions common to other colleges

    During her second year, she worked at the Yale Child Study Center learning about new research on early childhood brain development and working as a research assistant on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child (1973). She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale–New Haven Hospital and volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free legal advice for the poor.

    Rodham began a year of postgraduate study on children and medicine at the Yale Child Study Center. Her first scholarly article, "Children Under the Law", was published in the Harvard Educational Review in late 1973. Discussing the new children's rights movement, it stated that "child citizens" were "powerless individuals” and argued that children should not be considered equally incompetent from birth to attaining legal age, but that instead courts should presume competence except when there is evidence otherwise, on a case-by-case basis. The article became frequently cited in the field.

    During her postgraduate study, Rodham served as staff attorney for Edelman's newly founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children.

    As a member of the venerable Rose Law Firm worked pro bono in child advocacy.

    She published scholarly articles "Children's Policies: Abandonment and Neglect" in 1977 and "Children's Rights: A Legal Perspective" in 1979. The latter continued her argument that children's legal competence depended upon their age and other circumstances and that in serious medical rights cases, judicial intervention was sometimes warranted. Historian Garry Wills would later describe her as "one of the more important scholar-activists of the last two decades"

    In 1977, Rodham cofounded Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund

    As chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee she secured federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas's poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

    She was named chair of the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee in 1983, where she sought to reform the state's court-sanctioned public education system. In one of the Clinton governorship's most important initiatives, she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to establish mandatory teacher testing and state standards for curriculum and classroom size.

    In 1985, she introduced Arkansas's Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy. She was named Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984

    Clinton served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital Legal Services (1988–1992) and the Children's Defense Fund (as chair, 1986–1992).

    President Clinton named First Lady Clinton to chair a Task Force on National Health Care Reform, hoping to replicate the success she had in leading the effort for Arkansas education reform. That effort was unsuccessful.

    Along with Senators Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch, she was a force behind the passage of the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents could not provide them with health coverage.

    She conducted outreach efforts on behalf of enrolling children in the program once it became law.

    She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare.

    Together with Attorney General Janet Reno Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice.

    She initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as first lady.

    In 1999, she was instrumental in the passage of the Foster Care Independence Act, which doubled federal monies for teenagers aging out of foster care.

    As first lady, Clinton hosted numerous White House conferences, including ones on Child Care (1997), on Early Childhood Development and Learning (1997), and on Children and Adolescents (2000). She also hosted the first-ever White House Conference on Teenagers (2000).

    In 1996, Clinton presented a vision for the children of America in her book It Takes a Village: And Other Lessons Children Teach Us. The book made the Best Seller list of The New York Times and Clinton received the Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album in 1997 for the book's audio recording.

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    Schmidt said: "First you state that she supported moving millions of kids into poverty? Then you point out that she was recently honored by the founder of the Children's Defense Fund. I don't see those contrary points. Are you saying she wasn't deserving of the honor?" I qualified that by saying she gets favorable treatment beyond logic. The founder of the Children's Defense fund was upset with Hillary's support of Bill's welfare reform. Her husband resigned his position in the Clinton Administration in protest of the welfare changes. Then 17 years later she gets honored by the Children's Fund. In all fairness I wrote to her husband asking if there was an understanding on a higher level. I don't see any reason for her to be honored based on the welfare law. But she gets honored totally inline with your position. In much the same way Bernie's name is attached to the worst law ever that contains the CFMA. I certainly understand the concept of conceding to relevancy but it is dangerously close to the point of no return. You, I and everybody know that a correction is in the near future. Bernie is proposing a moderation so that the lower classes can survive. Hillary's position will enhance the transfer of wealth almost eliminating responsibility for a society. Remember that in her statement of elevating welfare recipients she said something to the effect of them no longer being deadbeats. That means she considered them deadbeats when on welfare. She either doesn't understand or doesn't care about limited competency. 30 years of stagnant wages is an indictment. The criminal results of poverty are expanding and encroaching. It is getting more difficult to drive around or move out of deteriorating neighborhoods. "Incrementalism" is accelerating and compounding the problem because use of the tetm is a lie. It doesn't address all problems incrementally. It makes small changes to easy problems. Leaving behind the huge problems. That is the reason for Trump and Bernie. Poverty and low wages are not a misconception or perception. They are real and causing unrest.

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    Comparing Hillary's past with her future proposals for wall street amount to conferences and rhetoric in my opinion. I will look at her past for substance.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Comparing Hillary's past with her future proposals for wall street amount to conferences and rhetoric in my opinion. I will look at her past for substance.

    I picked one program at random and followed it to date. 1999 Foster Care and Independence Act:

    "Our money is dispersed so thinly that nobody has enough Chafee money to support these kids over time, not with Chafee anyway. It’s the fund they tap for initial expenses, damage deposits, and household goods; it’s just not enough so the county can only spend the allocation on one kid for two months. The kid has to have a job or scholarship, some other housing money source because Chafee money isn’t enough."

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    Chet -- I don't know where you dig this stuff up. Read this:

    John H. Chafee Foster Care Independence Program

    "As of September 30, 2007, there were an estimated 496,000 children in substitute/foster care. Of these children an estimated 39% were identified as being 13 years of age or older (AFCARS 2007 data). During the Federal fiscal year 2007, States reported that approximately 29,000 young adults exited/emancipated from foster care (AFCARS 2008).

    "The National Youth in Transition Database (NYTD) is being developed as the data collection component for CFCIP and will be used to attain more knowledge about services and outcomes of youth transitioning out of foster care. For more information on NYTD, visit the Children's Bureau NYTD webpage.

    "The funding level for 2009 is $140 million for CFCIP and $45 million for ETV."

    Now if the program has been defunded by Republicans since 2009, I am not aware of it. But you are making a point to criticize Hillary Clinton again. I don't think your criticism holds water.

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    Schmidt Wrote: What might be missing from the reading of above quotes is that Sanders actually said: "she thinks that I am quote 'not qualified' unquote to be president. He was emphasizing the "quote - unquote" which is patently untrue. Hillary Clinton has never said he was unqualified. That's something he read into it.

    This is why I think this whole "fight" is a joke. The media loves a good fight and that is the only reason they are even talking about it. I think Sanders advisers told him that Clinton said he wasn't qualified and he ran with it. It's quite unlike him to go on the attack like that without verifying what she actually said.

    It looks like we're entering a new phase in the campaign. I don't think it'll get as ugly as it did in '08, but who knows?

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Chet -- I don't know where you dig this stuff up. Read this:

    John H. Chafee Foster Care Independence Program

    "As of September 30, 2007, there were an estimated 496,000 children in substitute/foster care. Of these children an estimated 39% were identified as being 13 years of age or older (AFCARS 2007 data). During the Federal fiscal year 2007, States reported that approximately 29,000 young adults exited/emancipated from foster care (AFCARS 2008).

    "The National Youth in Transition Database (NYTD) is being developed as the data collection component for CFCIP and will be used to attain more knowledge about services and outcomes of youth transitioning out of foster care. For more information on NYTD, visit the Children's Bureau NYTD webpage.

    "The funding level for 2009 is $140 million for CFCIP and $45 million for ETV."

    Now if the program has been defunded by Republicans since 2009, I am not aware of it. But you are making a point to criticize Hillary Clinton again. I don't think your criticism holds water.

    Schmidt, I don't have time to sort through material to cull negative points. I just searched using money as the operative query. What I posted is what I found directly using money spent. It is probably more I dicative of parasitic bureaucracy than Hillary's record. But no bureaucrats quit because of lack of money. Another result of incrementalism where more money appears to have been spent in management instead of the objective. I'll source my entry.

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    Here is the source and I picked Miami because I live in FL. I was taking a break from work and had no time to pick supporting info. Just one search "money soent" cited the 1999 Program.
    PDF]“ROAD TO INDEPENDENCE”: ADVOCACY ... - University of Miami
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    Living Initiative through the federal Foster Care Independence Act of 1999. See Pub. L. No. ... plan, DCF committed itself to providing Florida's foster youth, and former foster youth, with a wide range of ...het Ruminski Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:

    Chet -- I don't know where you dig this stuff up. Read this:

    John H. Chafee Foster Care Independence Program

    "As of September 30, 2007, there were an estimated 496,000 children in substitute/foster care. Of these children an estimated 39% were identified as being 13 years of age or older (AFCARS 2007 data). During the Federal fiscal year 2007, States reported that approximately 29,000 young adults exited/emancipated from foster care (AFCARS 2008).

    "The National Youth in Transition Database (NYTD) is being developed as the data collection component for CFCIP and will be used to attain more knowledge about services and outcomes of youth transitioning out of foster care. For more information on NYTD, visit the Children's Bureau NYTD webpage.

    "The funding level for 2009 is $140 million for CFCIP and $45 million for ETV."

    Now if the program has been defunded by Republicans since 2009, I am not aware of it. But you are making a point to criticize Hillary Clinton again. I don't think your criticism holds water.

    Schmidt, I don't have time to sort through material to cull negative points. I just searched using money as the operative query. What I posted is what I found directly using money spent. It is probably more I dicative of parasitic bureaucracy than Hillary's record. But no bureaucrats quit because of lack of money. Another result of incrementalism where more money appears to have been spent in management instead of the objective. I'll source my entry.

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    Sorry, But final word is failure for the youth, job security for the Bureaucrat.

    Health and Human Services report found that the federal Foster Care Independence program meant to help foster children make the transition to adulthood is inconsistent from state to state and provides too little for these troubled young people. And it simply is not a s

    ubstitute for a family.

    cnn.com/2014/04/16/opinion/soronen-fost...