Hillary Clinton's proposals, plans and where she stands
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Thanks Schmidt; sure these are some of the issues. But look at from a satellite; all these things will have to work together; especially if you have a lot of opposition from the GOP and other power houses like the NRA, CIA, Pentagon, NSA, FBI etc. Due to the polarization, neither Bernie or Hillary can fulfill all their promises; hopefully the Senate and the House will become more into Democratic hands, but even the Dems have some terrible senators; so we likely "muddle" on without much change especially if Hillary is elected. Our "wars" will remain a costly never ending issue "eating" us alive, which neither candidate does address properly. Not the social issues will kill us, but the never ending wars certainly will. Therefore we need someone who has world wide experience; Hillary has only some "drinking tea" experience with world leaders, but not with people who live in those countries or does understands their culture. (she voted for the invasion of Iraq for instance) At least Kerry is learning, thanks to Obama, not Hillary
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pr Wrote:Hilary's plan is to go down in history as Americas first female president. That's what controls everything she says and does. She has no use for anyone or anything that doesn't help her along on that path, never has, never will. No one knows her real beliefs (if she actually has any) anymore than we know what Trumpy really believes. pr -- I find your views on Hillary highly disturbing. You are exactly the kind of liberals that Republicans love. Republicans have worked hard to brand Hillary with tons of negative information hoping that some of it will stick. And by your remarks, they have been successful. Take a look at the list of books and article written about her. I count about 90 books. And a whole bunch of them are negative with authors like Laura Ingraham, Jonah Goldberg, Dick Morris, and Peggy Noonan. Wikipedia: List of books by or about Hillary Rodham Clinton If you want to write a negative book about Hillary, there are probably quite a few billionaires who will fund it. So what are your sources to have such a biased view? You and I have exactly opposite views of Hillary Clinton, and it can only come from what we selectively read and hear as I have never met her. Have you?
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Schmidt Wrote:pr Wrote:Hilary's plan is to go down in history as Americas first female president. That's what controls everything she says and does. She has no use for anyone or anything that doesn't help her along on that path, never has, never will. No one knows her real beliefs (if she actually has any) anymore than we know what Trumpy really believes. pr -- I find your views on Hillary highly disturbing. You are exactly the kind of liberals that Republicans love. Republicans have worked hard to brand Hillary with tons of negative information hoping that some of it will stick. And by your remarks, they have been successful. Take a look at the list of books and article written about her. I count about 90 books. And a whole bunch of them are negative with authors like Laura Ingraham, Jonah Goldberg, Dick Morris, and Peggy Noonan. Wikipedia: List of books by or about Hillary Rodham Clinton If you want to write a negative book about Hillary, there are probably quite a few billionaires who will fund it. So what are your sources to have such a biased view? You and I have exactly opposite views of Hillary Clinton, and it can only come from what we selectively read and hear as I have never met her. Have you? Schmidt, There is ample documented evidence of Hillary and Bill's positions of anti black, anti poor and pro rich and elite. Just this morning I saw a clip where Bill was citing the "super predators" responding to hecklers. The past 30 years of a left behind class is enough proof of their intentions. I understand your position of framing actions in terms of these were the best possible results. How can you explain Trump's and Bernie's position on the National Scene? I see it as unrest and not an anomaly. A lot of people have put a lot on the line supporting Bernie. No matter what happens in this campaign it is not the end of Bernie. As things like legal front running by super computer traders become common knowledge you will see more Bernies popping up all over. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness will be demanded as a right, not a possible trickle down benefit.
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Schmidt Wrote:pr Wrote:Hilary's plan is to go down in history as Americas first female president. That's what controls everything she says and does. She has no use for anyone or anything that doesn't help her along on that path, never has, never will. No one knows her real beliefs (if she actually has any) anymore than we know what Trumpy really believes. pr -- I find your views on Hillary highly disturbing. You are exactly the kind of liberals that Republicans love. Republicans have worked hard to brand Hillary with tons of negative information hoping that some of it will stick. And by your remarks, they have been successful. Take a look at the list of books and article written about her. I count about 90 books. And a whole bunch of them are negative with authors like Laura Ingraham, Jonah Goldberg, Dick Morris, and Peggy Noonan. Wikipedia: List of books by or about Hillary Rodham Clinton If you want to write a negative book about Hillary, there are probably quite a few billionaires who will fund it. So what are your sources to have such a biased view? You and I have exactly opposite views of Hillary Clinton, and it can only come from what we selectively read and hear as I have never met her. Have you? Sure Schmidt; I could write a book about you; do you think it reflects your real personality? I doubt it. People remain people with all their shortcomings, including me. As the points P.R. is making, I agree with him that due to her being the wife of Bill that she has been formed by her husband and sits therefore on a "high horse" especially as a woman, because then ( like they say in Dutch it "raised to her head", people become arrogant and think they know it all; the same as with Trump who got fed with a golden spoon. Especially people who are getting on such level are more prone to failures, because they have become arrogant/self absorbed and will therefore fail like a lot of CEO's , because at such level they seldom will change or accept advise from others, due to the fact that in such environment seldom people dare to criticize. Furthermore her "lawyer" background trained her to "defend" herself with lots of "engineered" wording; in order to evade facts. So "books" seldom portray the exact person; neither does the media. Everyone has an own "agenda" anyway. Please look a bit further than "books" alone. Her "body" language tells it all.
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I have formed an opinion on Hillary by what she has achieved in her life (which if people would open their eyes is very commendable), and where she stands on the issues. Certain people are more "likeable" than others. Barack Obama is more likeable than Hillary. She does not have a "warm" personality. I've tried to analyze her personality using Myers-Briggs criteria, but it's difficult because she has a more guarded public persona. Her private life is less evident and available to people like me to analyze. Some put her as an INTJ. I can agree to part of that, but it's difficult. The fact that she has been in the public spotlight for so long where every single thing she says or does is analyzed under a microscope has had some effect on her public persona. The media sensationalizes anything that might be perceived as controversial. However, I have no doubt that she is as sincere in her desire to make the world a better place as a public servant rather than "seeking the limelight". Her role as Secretary of State is testament to that fact. In her visiting 112 countries to build bridges she went everywhere to meet ordinary people most often away from the cameras. I read foreign newspaper articles about her visits (mostly all positive). Yes she can "drink tea" with foreign dignitaries, but she also enjoys getting out and meeting people one-on-one. As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton enjoyed an approval rating of 66 percent. Then when she decided to run for president her approval ratings went down. It was because the Republicans started attacking her on everything starting with Benghazi and now the e-mails. They started resurrecting the Bill Clinton presidency making her "accountable" for Bill's midnight romps with Monika. Nothing has been off limits. The mainstream media loves it. It's good for ratings. So what did she do between garnering a 66 percent positive rating right before she stepped down as Secretary of State to now where she has negative ratings. Nothing. It is all Republican "Hillary Haters" feeding the mainstream media. The Bernie supporters are glomming onto those negative narratives to make their candidate "better" in their eyes. It is now largely Bernie and Bernie's supporters who are driving down Hillary's negative ratings. I read where 25 percent of them would never vote for Hillary. She is hated so much now by the hard core Bernie supporters...probably as much as the Republican operatives who fear her. It's all emotional. I suppose that applies to many of the members on this website. I have said it before, but I'll say it again. Hillary Clinton is one of the more accomplished and most qualified persons to seek the office of the President of the United States. I don't care about likability...I care about what she has achieved in life and what she still wants to achieve. It's commendable. She will make an outstanding president.
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Schmidt Wrote:pr Wrote:Hilary's plan is to go down in history as Americas first female president. That's what controls everything she says and does. She has no use for anyone or anything that doesn't help her along on that path, never has, never will. No one knows her real beliefs (if she actually has any) anymore than we know what Trumpy really believes. pr -- I find your views on Hillary highly disturbing. You are exactly the kind of liberals that Republicans love. Republicans have worked hard to brand Hillary with tons of negative information hoping that some of it will stick. And by your remarks, they have been successful. So what are your sources to have such a biased view? You and I have exactly opposite views of Hillary Clinton, and it can only come from what we selectively read and hear as I have never met her. Have you? Um, yes I have. I'll see if I can find the photo.
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Schmidt Wrote:I have formed an opinion on Hillary by what she has achieved in her life (which if people would open their eyes is very commendable), and where she stands on the issues. Certain people are more "likeable" than others. Barack Obama is more likeable than Hillary. She does not have a "warm" personality. I've tried to analyze her personality using Myers-Briggs criteria, but it's difficult because she has a more guarded public persona. Her private life is less evident and available to people like me to analyze. Some put her as an INTJ. I can agree to part of that, but it's difficult. The fact that she has been in the public spotlight for so long where every single thing she says or does is analyzed under a microscope has had some effect on her public persona. The media sensationalizes anything that might be perceived as controversial. However, I have no doubt that she is as sincere in her desire to make the world a better place as a public servant rather than "seeking the limelight". Her role as Secretary of State is testament to that fact. In her visiting 112 countries to build bridges she went everywhere to meet ordinary people most often away from the cameras. I read foreign newspaper articles about her visits (mostly all positive). Yes she can "drink tea" with foreign dignitaries, but she also enjoys getting out and meeting people one-on-one. As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton enjoyed an approval rating of 66 percent. Then when she decided to run for president her approval ratings went down. It was because the Republicans started attacking her on everything starting with Benghazi and now the e-mails. They started resurrecting the Bill Clinton presidency making her "accountable" for Bill's midnight romps with Monika. Nothing has been off limits. The mainstream media loves it. It's good for ratings. So what did she do between garnering a 66 percent positive rating right before she stepped down as Secretary of State to now where she has negative ratings. Nothing. It is all Republican "Hillary Haters" feeding the mainstream media. The Bernie supporters are glomming onto those negative narratives to make their candidate "better" in their eyes. It is now largely Bernie and Bernie's supporters who are driving down Hillary's negative ratings. I read where 25 percent of them would never vote for Hillary. She is hated so much now by the hard core Bernie supporters...probably as much as the Republican operatives who fear her. It's all emotional. I suppose that applies to many of the members on this website. I have said it before, but I'll say it again. Hillary Clinton is one of the more accomplished and most qualified persons to seek the office of the President of the United States. I don't care about likability...I care about what she has achieved in life and what she still wants to achieve. It's commendable. She will make an outstanding president. Yes Schmidt, don't get me wrong. you are still a hell of a guy. The point I'm making is the same as I experienced, if you get up high, then you may think you're invincible, But I learned there are plenty of sneaky bastards who cut the legs from under you. About Hillary; no I don't hate her, but don't like the arrogance. Sure I can see where you are coming from, and like your discussions and positive attitude; but never gamble on the wrong horse. Don't forget Bill is the real one in the background; without his help; she may stumble in a big way
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