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Trump's Nomination is the Best Thing That Can Happen to Democrats

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Donald Trump may very well be an unstoppable force in the Republican Party and that excites me to no end because his nomination will doom the Republican Party for years to come. He won't only lose the Presidency; him being at the top of the ticket will have a negative effect on local, state, and federal Republican candidates down the ballot. That will only help Democrats.

    I know that a lot of people are scared of Trump, but let me allay your fears. There is little to zero chance of Trump winning the Presidency. The electoral college is already stacked in the Democrats favor no matter who the Republicans nominate and a Trump candidacy will virtually guarantee a Democratic rout in November. That rout will guarantee a Democratic President and Senate which will be able to shape the Federal courts for a generation.

    So I encourage to not fret about Donald Trump. His nomination is the best thing that can happen to the Democratic Party.

  • Center Left
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    Zero chance to win is a bold claim. Rarely does a party win 3 times in a row because in this age of voters being under represented........change is a constant. I worry about Trump getting a shot because of the exclusionary hate at the center of his campaign. He's never been more than someone working to improve their own worth. I would love it if the good guys would win because the SCOTUS choice and future appointments is vitally important.

    Younger persons that I have spoken to are turned off by the family "Dynasty" concept so I think Hillary has challenges ahead. Hopefully the Bush family will not push Jeb to try again in 4 years. There's a large % of voters who are fine with a reality tv star getting a shot as potus because bad television can equate to familiarity.

    Tonight the wins and the margins of both DT and HRC are nothing to sneeze at. BS is no longer in the Atlantic NE and while his results are impressive...... do the math. I hope he's smart enough to take a VP role or a cabinet position.

  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote:

    Zero chance to win is a bold claim. Rarely does a party win 3 times in a row because in this age of voters being under represented........change is a constant. I worry about Trump getting a shot because of the exclusionary hate at the center of his campaign. He's never been more than someone working to improve their own worth. I would love it if the good guys would win because the SCOTUS choice and future appointments is vitally important.

    Younger persons that I have spoken to are turned off by the family "Dynasty" concept so I think Hillary has challenges ahead. Hopefully the Bush family will not push Jeb to try again in 4 years. There's a large % of voters who are fine with a reality tv star getting a shot as potus because bad television can equate to familiarity.

    Tonight the wins and the margins of both DT and HRC are nothing to sneeze at. BS is no longer in the Atlantic NE and while his results are impressive...... do the math. I hope he's smart enough to take a VP role or a cabinet position.

    I'm shocked that this country has sunk so low; it actually shows that most people here love bullies and big mouths. All the B.s Trump spews out and is accepted by half the country, means that "education" related to human nature has always been an "F" here. I just wonder if Hillary can battle all the Trump rhetoric at all; he'll just overpower her with shouts and interruptions because he never learned manners either; just a redneck ego tripping bully, loved by half the country. I hope Jared understands by now that we are in deep shit with this guy and Hillary will have an uphill battle.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Hillary represents the government that takes the blame for what caused the anger support that Trump and Sanders are capitalizing from. How can Hillary differentiate between the government and herself. A logical argument won't sway voters . Trump can connect Clinton to all the conditions causing voter revolt. People have presented a case against Sanders that if elected he won't get anything passed. That same argument helps Trump because people will believe congress will keep the President in check. That mitigates Sander's supporters voting for Trump. Hillary is criticizing Trump for the exact things that drew support to Trump. She is demeaning the exact things that people are upset about. Whether she is right or wrong means nothing because in a democracy there are no rules controlling voter's choice . In case Bernie gets a chance he just fired a salvo at Trump that opens him to Trump's smear tactics. Bernie is my choice as I announced long ago but he should not have called Trump a pathological liar. That made him fair game for Trump's successful offense used to get Rubio out of the campaign. If the choice is between Trump and Hillary the logical choice for working people is Hillary. But this is a Democracy and there is no logic only subjectivity. And Trump can say anything. Hillary is bound by Party, platform, history and establishment. Even at this late date people don't get it that Trump is voicing a huge segment of the population. Trump has the edge and possibly more depending on sensationalism. Hillary could benefit by skimming the best appeal from Trump and Bernie. Of little consequence but enough to get some votes is Trump is referred to by his last name while Hillary and Bernie use their first names. That gives Trump an edge in respect.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I am willing to bet any amount of money that Trump will never become President.

    Democrats turn out in higher numbers during Presidential election years and the electoral college is already heavily tilted in the Democrats favor no matter who the Republicans nominate. Swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania would never vote for someone as extreme as Donald Trump.

    The Republican Party will very likely split if Trump is their nominee and many Republicans will either vote for a third party or stay home in November. That will only help the Democrats. Not only will we retain the White House, we will almost certainly take back the Senate.

    It's just simple math. The Democrats have all the chips stacked in our favor. There are 34 Senate seats up for election and Republicans currently occupy 24 of them. Many of those seats are in blue or swing states where the Senator is already vulnerable. Trump at the top of the ticket with their political death knell.

  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I am willing to bet any amount of money that Trump will never become President.

    Democrats turn out in higher numbers during Presidential election years and the electoral college is already heavily tilted in the Democrats favor no matter who the Republicans nominate. Swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania would never vote for someone as extreme as Donald Trump.

    The Republican Party will very likely split if Trump is their nominee and many Republicans will either vote for a third party or stay home in November. That will only help the Democrats. Not only will we retain the White House, we will almost certainly take back the Senate.

    It's just simple math. The Democrats have all the chips stacked in our favor. There are 34 Senate seats up for election and Republicans currently occupy 24 of them. Many of those seats are in blue or swing states where the Senator is already vulnerable. Trump at the top of the ticket with their political death knell.

    I'm glad you are optimistic; the only thing is, things will not go as smoothly as you state; Trump will never accept defeat, so you better prepare for an hot long summer, with guns blazing in the wind. I know the types. So it will become a small civil war.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn, Present a case for Trump winning. He hasn't yet begun to unload on Hillary. Did you see his FL attack ad against Rubio? He pointed out that Rubio sold his house at about a $200,000 profit to the mother of a lobbyist and then Rubio changed his position to agree with the lobbyist. Pointed out $22,000 and other misuses of a GOP credit card. Christy is with Trump and I am sure Christy thought the options out.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: jaredsxtn, Present a case for Trump winning. He hasn't yet begun to unload on Hillary. Did you see his FL attack ad against Rubio? He pointed out that Rubio sold his house at about a $200,000 profit to the mother of a lobbyist and then Rubio changed his position to agree with the lobbyist. Pointed out $22,000 and other misuses of a GOP credit card. Christy is with Trump and I am sure Christy thought the options out.

    Who cares about an attack ad Trump aired against Marco Rubio? Hillary Clinton has spent her entire political career weathering attack ads from the GOP. If they haven't been able to knock her down by now then I highly doubt they will be able to moving forward.

    And I also don't care about Chris Christie supporting him. He didn't do anything in the primary and dropped out after placing 6th in New Hampshire. Chris Christie sees the writing on the wall that Trump will be the nominee, but that doesn't mean his support is going to help out Trump in the least.

    The Republican primary is different than the general election. There is zero chance of Trump winning enough moderate or swing voters from purple states that will decide this election. It's just simple math.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Speaking of attack ads, Trump put out an ad showing Hillary as a "barking dog" that went viral. Hillary responded immediately with a similar ad but her laughing at Trump. You can watch them both here. I like it that Hillary is not letting "being the punchline" stand.

    Crooks and Liars: Clinton Campaign Mocks Donald Trump's 'Barking Dog' Ad

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Speaking of attack ads, Trump put out an ad showing Hillary as a "barking dog" that went viral. Hillary responded immediately with a similar ad but her laughing at Trump. You can watch them both here. I like it that Hillary is not letting "being the punchline" stand.

    Crooks and Liars: Clinton Campaign Mocks Donald Trump's 'Barking Dog' Ad

    Like I said, it won't stay with "barking dogs", it will be pitbulls trying to get the meat. Trump never accepts defeat; chairs will flying as well his whole mafia friends club, will make sure he will be able to bully his way forward.
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    I hope that Mr Trump can never win, but I think the amount of support he has achieved has done the US huge harm, and am already wondering if the rest of the world is currently strong enough to resist what he will inevitably do is elected. It was hard enough to beat Hitler.
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    iolo Wrote: I hope that Mr Trump can never win, but I think the amount of support he has achieved has done the US huge harm, and am already wondering if the rest of the world is currently strong enough to resist what he will inevitably do is elected. It was hard enough to beat Hitler.
    Iolo, yes that is the problem here; Hitler starting waving flags and building huge army's; he's using the same tactics as Hitler did; pushing fear and making promises which can't be met, like building the great wall of China on our southern border.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Sorry to say but the establishment attacking Trump promotes exactly what Trump is preaching. Trump is the reality of "Life Styles of the Rich and Famous". He is not dissuading the rank and file Republicans and answers an alternative to the left Democratic.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: jaredsxtn, Present a case for Trump winning. He hasn't yet begun to unload on Hillary. Did you see his FL attack ad against Rubio? He pointed out that Rubio sold his house at about a $200,000 profit to the mother of a lobbyist and then Rubio changed his position to agree with the lobbyist. Pointed out $22,000 and other misuses of a GOP credit card. Christy is with Trump and I am sure Christy thought the options out.

    Who cares about an attack ad Trump aired against Marco Rubio? Hillary Clinton has spent her entire political career weathering attack ads from the GOP. If they haven't been able to knock her down by now then I highly doubt they will be able to moving forward.

    And I also don't care about Chris Christie supporting him. He didn't do anything in the primary and dropped out after placing 6th in New Hampshire. Chris Christie sees the writing on the wall that Trump will be the nominee, but that doesn't mean his support is going to help out Trump in the least.

    The Republican primary is different than the general election. There is zero chance of Trump winning enough moderate or swing voters from purple states that will decide this election. It's just simple math.

    I just mentioned Christy to show that a mainline player switched to support Trump. That ads some credibility to Trump.

    I am typing on my phone and the flag post icon is close to the quotation marks. The flag post screen came up by accident. I backed out immediately but in case the flag appears it was totally accidental.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: I just mentioned Christy to show that a mainline player switched to support Trump. That ads some credibility to Trump.

    I happen to disagree. I think the only thing it does is make Christie look like a fool.

    Trump will never be able to appeal to the center, mainstream people who tend to decide national elections. He would very likely be able to be elected as a Senator from Mississippi, but swing states that actually decide national elections would never come out in droves for him and swing states are the only states that matter in Presidential elections.