jaredsxtn Wrote:Sorry Jared, I don't agree. Sure we "invaded" in your lifetime" maybe only two; since WWII a lot more; you forgot Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, Haiti now attacked not invaded yet: Syria and Libya, Mali, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen and into Pakistan to get Bin Laden (not quite "invaded" but close); what I mean is,
Dutch Wrote: Ridiculous answer; NO SOMALIA person with a Somalia passport ever attacked the US!!!! Please provide the location and place in the US.
You are changing the question now. Your initial question was when they have attacked us and I interpreted that to be United States interests. And there are multiple occasions of Somalia citizens attacking both United States business and military interests. They have also attacked many of our allies that we have agreements with to protect them if they are attacked.
Dutch Wrote:Sure you don't get the picture, that we slowly but surely try to fight the whole world with our drones etc. Plenty of so called "terrorists" will remain in the world all over the place, thus lets "fly swat" till we are broke and they will still pop up because of us. NUTS.
I most certainly get the picture. The African Union has asked for our help in fighting Al-Shabab and we gave it to them. What would you have said had those 150 fighters unleashed an attack that killed hundreds of innocent women and children? Would you have blamed the US for doing nothing or blamed the US for some other reason?
Everything that's wrong in this world is not Americas fault.
Dutch Wrote: Yes the US should only deal with treats which are actually may take place in the US itself. All our meddling in the world exporting our weapons, movies, corruption and greed gives this result.
What if the threat is being materialized overseas? Should we just wait until they come here and conduct the attack before we do anything about it?
Dutch Wrote:Wake up Jared look at it from a different point of view. If China or any other country would do the same thing as we are doing in the world ; like invading whole countries and throwing death and destruction via drones wherever we like, you would immediately scream like hell. I call this being a hypocrite. So in other words you find that we have to drone the whole world and every terrorist ( which we call everyone who does not agree with us) and internal disputes in countries; can you imagine if every country in the world would do the same? So every empire comes to an end, not different for the US. Lets spent all that wasted drone money on "lead" pipes in Flint instead. Amen
I don't really know how to respond to this one.
For starters, I was against the invasion of Iraq from the start because I was draft age and didn't want to go fight in a war that I didn't believe in. I was fine with the Afghanistan invasion, but lost faith in it after it became clear the Bush Administration was only using it as a stepping stone for Iraq. Those are the only two countries the United States has invaded in my lifetime.
Drones are a different beast and I don't have a clear cut feeling on whether I agree with our drone wars or not. Are we creating more terrorists because of the drones or not? That's a legitimate question. Another legitimate question is what would happen if a major attack happened on American soil because we dropped the ball. If that happens close to the election then I hope you're ready for President Trump to be sworn in next January.
The China question also doesn't make much sense because China is flexing its muscles throughout Asia and Africa both militarily (with bilateral military deals) and economically (business deals). The Chinese President, Xi Jinping, also just threatened to do whatever it takes to keep Taiwan under its orbit. I'm fine with all of these things because what China does is their business. I highly doubt we will risk WWIII over Taiwan independence or Chinese deals with other nations.
I don't understand why you get so angry with people who disagree with you about complex issues. I don't want to "drone the whole world" and I don't want to invade every country. I also don't want a militant group that's hell bent on destroying America to get their hands on a nuclear device and level a major American city. Calling me naive or a hypocrite because I happen to think about things differently than you just muddies the discussion.