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What happened to the Democratic Party?!

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  • Democrat
    Julian, CA
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    There is every indication that the Democratic Party is nearing extinction and the proof of that is made clear when the Democratic Party is supporting a Corporatist and a war hawk instead of a Democrat.

    The truth is America has only one party and that is the Corporatist Party thanks to those billions in bribe money (180 million went to Jeb before he quit) from those Robber Barons/Global Corporations and that happened because of those 5 fascist corrupt corporate supreme ideologues who have the total common sense, IQ and good judgment of a turnip.

    I wonder how many Americans realize they haven't had a Republic since those 5 Supremes stopped the vote count in Florida, who have allowed unlimited bribe money in America's elections and when America's legal systems refuse to prosecute the worst criminals in U.S. History; the war criminals, the human rights abusers, the banksters and investment swindlers.

    The rule of law is the foundation of a Republic and America is no longer ruled by laws and instead by greed and corruption.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    progressiveconnie Wrote: There is every indication that the Democratic Party is nearing extinction and the proof of that is made clear when the Democratic Party is supporting a Corporatist and a war hawk instead of a Democrat.

    The Democratic Party is not nearing extinction.

    progressiveconnie Wrote: The truth is America has only one party and that is the Corporatist Party thanks to those billions in bribe money (180 million went to Jeb before he quit) from those Robber Barons/Global Corporations and that happened because of those 5 fascist corrupt corporate supreme ideologues who have the total common sense, IQ and good judgment of a turnip.

    I wonder how many Americans realize they haven't had a Republic since those 5 Supremes stopped the vote count in Florida, who have allowed unlimited bribe money in America's elections and when America's legal systems refuse to prosecute the worst criminals in U.S. History; the war criminals, the human rights abusers, the banksters and investment swindlers.

    The rule of law is the foundation of a Republic and America is no longer ruled by laws and instead by greed and corruption.

    If we didn't have a republic then you wouldn't be able to express your belief that we don't have a republic.

    It's true that we are on the verge of becoming an oligarchy, but that's because the American people are too damn lazy to vote. This is especially true in mid term elections. And those who do seem to constantly vote against their better interests.

    That doesn't mean we're not a republic; it just means that millions of Americans would rather watch 'Dancing With the Stars' than vote.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Sorry Jared, like Connie says; everything here has a "price"; "voting" as well. Looking at the delegate "system" then your "vote" is worthless. It is just like "The wheel of fortune" the one who wins, wins more and more. Only number one counts in this country, as applied in sports and everywhere. Just follow the Trump or Hillary number of "delegates"; it has nothing to do with an equal vote distribution related to delegates; winner gets all. Ridiculous; no wonder people stay home and don't vote, because they are may be stupid, but know how corrupt this country is.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Things are moving in a horrible direction; just released; a clip of Joe Biden who in 1992 objected against appointing an Supreme Court person under Bush and wanted to postpone it till the next president. Then of course Trump and the "gang" wants to retain Guantanamo prison camp and create even more wars to get more prisoners for it. Thus Obama can forget it that he can score anything at all under the present circumstances. Also on the news here our corrupt Governor Mr.Scott has been listed on the short list for V.P. under Trump. Criminals of course seek other criminals. All Scotts buddies were convicted of a huge "hospital" scam; he claimed the "fifth" about 50 times and came out rich. If this all happens then this will be the end of the US as we know it. Heil Hitler.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Let's all take a deep breath. The Apocalypse isn't on the horizon. Our democracy is not on the verge of becoming a dictatorship and the Democratic Party is not on the verge of collapse.

    So many people tend to forget the massive change that President Obama and his Administration have brought about in America. When he took office only two states had legalized gay marriage. Now it's legal in all fifty states. When he took office we still had thousands of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now we have a small handful in both countries. When he took office the world financial system was in a catastrophic free fall. Now we have had 71 straight months of economic growth. Take home pay by the average worker is higher, the unemployment rate is at its lowest rate in decades, and economic mobility is on the rise again. And don't even get me started about the fact that people could have been denied health coverage for any reason under the sun before Obamacare was passed. I can go on and on (and on and on), but you get my point.

    This all happened with a Republican Party hell bent on thwarting President Obama at every turn. So elections do matter. You may not believe it, but they do. Just think of what could have been done if Democrats actually voted in 2010 and 2014. If they voted in 2014 then we wouldn't even be having the fight about the Supreme Court vacancy because the Democrats would still control the Senate.

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    Ft.myers, FL
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    Jared, I'm glad you are positive; but the bad news is if Trump gets elected everything you think was positive will be undone in a flash. But yeah, if Hillary wins nothing much will change, except Wall Street and the 1% can continue as before and get a bit richer.

    However our foreign policies may improve if she follows Obama's thinking. So I hope she can tackle Trump. The main problem remains; that is the polarization and GOP attitude which may make this country un-governable.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Jared, I'm glad you are positive; but the bad news is if Trump gets elected everything you think was positive will be undone in a flash. But yeah, if Hillary wins nothing much will change, except Wall Street and the 1% can continue as before and get a bit richer.

    However our foreign policies may improve if she follows Obama's thinking. So I hope she can tackle Trump. The main problem remains; that is the polarization and GOP attitude which may make this country un-governable.

    There is little to zero chance of Trump actually being elected. It is my hope of all hopes that he's the Republican nominee because that will be the death knell of the party as we know it.

    The electoral college map is largely skewed in the Democrats favor already. We have far more paths to victory than Republicans do and I can pretty much guarantee that Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida would never vote for Trump. Republicans lose the Presidency if they lose one of those states. Losing all three would be a catastrophe.

    Ask yourself if nothing has changed since President Obama was elected. And then ask yourself where we might be had John McCain won in 2008 or Mitt Romney won in 2012. Sure, Wall Street has a lot of money, but Main Street has a lot more money too. That's just a fact.

    #ThanksObama

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: Jared, I'm glad you are positive; but the bad news is if Trump gets elected everything you think was positive will be undone in a flash. But yeah, if Hillary wins nothing much will change, except Wall Street and the 1% can continue as before and get a bit richer.

    However our foreign policies may improve if she follows Obama's thinking. So I hope she can tackle Trump. The main problem remains; that is the polarization and GOP attitude which may make this country un-governable.

    There is little to zero chance of Trump actually being elected. It is my hope of all hopes that he's the Republican nominee because that will be the death knell of the party as we know it.

    The electoral college map is largely skewed in the Democrats favor already. We have far more paths to victory than Republicans do and I can pretty much guarantee that Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida would never vote for Trump. Republicans lose the Presidency if they lose one of those states. Losing all three would be a catastrophe.

    Ask yourself if nothing has changed since President Obama was elected. And then ask yourself where we might be had John McCain won in 2008 or Mitt Romney won in 2012. Sure, Wall Street has a lot of money, but Main Street has a lot more money too. That's just a fact.

    #ThanksObama

    We'll wait and see; you still may have to eat your shirt, the way it is going,
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "And don't even get me started about the fact that people could have been denied health coverage for any reason under the sun before Obamacare was passed. " There are multiple conditions that can prevent or preclude coverage. My wife has been prescribed an MRI 8 months ago and still can't get it covered because of a "pre existing condition". I am sure there is a politically correct answer for why it is not covered but the reality is that it is not covered. Putting forth pre existing condition coverage needs to be foot noted: " except when in the case of".
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Pensacola, FL
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    I am and always have been a union supporter. I have been both a union member and union officer in the United Mine Workers of America. Then there was a mindset that there were no favorites and everybody got the same treatment. The now Democratic party is satisfied with a few positives and claiming victory. Listing all the positives without the exceptions leaves a lot of people behind.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "There is every indication that the Democratic Party is nearing extinction " The Democratic Party that used to be the party of the working man is nearing extinction. When the country became affluent it spent that on everything but the working man. Now all the benefits that have been won in the name of the working man are too expensive to be enjoyed by the working man.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    When the UMWA negotiated medical coverage it got the same coverage for every member and their family. No exceptions. When the HMO movement tried to infiltrate the UMWA I fought it openly and vigorously. No room for exceptions to get better rates. The UMWA was plain and simple. 100% coverage no exceptions.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: "There is every indication that the Democratic Party is nearing extinction " The Democratic Party that used to be the party of the working man is nearing extinction. When the country became affluent it spent that on everything but the working man. Now all the benefits that have been won in the name of the working man are too expensive to be enjoyed by the working man.

    The Democratic Party used to be the party of racists who owned slaves and controlled the Jim Crow south after the Civil War. And the founders of the Democratic Party viewed the Federal Government as a literal enemy of the people. You won't hear many self proclaimed Democrats advocating those positions now.

    Positions of political parties ebb and flow with the times. The other party usually adopts opposite positions to draw a contrast. A good example is the switch the southern states made during the Civil Rights movement. Northern Democrats forced a change to the party platform so the Republican Party courted southern Democrats and changed their platform to reflect those changes. Now the south is solidly Republican when it used to be solidly Democrat.

    If people got off their asses to vote then our representation would reflect that, but I have no sympathy for people who refuse to vote and then bitch about our federal government. Oregon is going through a progressive revolution right now and we also have one of the highest voting rates in the nation. Is that a coincidence? I think not. Ask yourself how this country could be if everyone voted at the same rate we Oregonians do.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: "There is every indication that the Democratic Party is nearing extinction " The Democratic Party that used to be the party of the working man is nearing extinction. When the country became affluent it spent that on everything but the working man. Now all the benefits that have been won in the name of the working man are too expensive to be enjoyed by the working man.

    The Democratic Party used to be the party of racists who owned slaves and controlled the Jim Crow south after the Civil War. And the founders of the Democratic Party viewed the Federal Government as a literal enemy of the people. You won't hear many self proclaimed Democrats advocating those positions now.

    Positions of political parties ebb and flow with the times. The other party usually adopts opposite positions to draw a contrast. A good example is the switch the southern states made during the Civil Rights movement. Northern Democrats forced a change to the party platform so the Republican Party courted southern Democrats and changed their platform to reflect those changes. Now the south is solidly Republican when it used to be solidly Democrat.

    If people got off their asses to vote then our representation would reflect that, but I have no sympathy for people who refuse to vote and then bitch about our federal government. Oregon is going through a progressive revolution right now and we also have one of the highest voting rates in the nation. Is that a coincidence? I think not. Ask yourself how this country could be if everyone voted at the same rate we Oregonians do.

    Yeah, it must be the Oregon climate and not much to do except clean the guns and collect wood for the stove. So no wonder it is exiting to vote, then you hope you meet some other lonely people. Wow
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Yeah, it must be the Oregon climate and not much to do except clean the guns and collect wood for the stove. So no wonder it is exiting to vote, then you hope you meet some other lonely people. Wow

    Not really sure what this means. Portland is quickly becoming the most progressive cities in the United States. We are experiencing a population boom and also have one of the most highly educated populations thanks in large part to Nike and Intel being headquartered here.

    This educated and progressive population is becoming the envy of the rest of the country. Our state government recently passed laws that automatically sign up residents to vote when they get a state ID, a mandatory background check for anyone wanting purchasing a weapon via a private purchase (we already have very strict background checks for licensed gun sales), mandating that all businesses provide paid sick leave to their workers, and we "banned the box" so applicants with a misdemeanor or felony aren't automatically disqualified from getting a job.

    Oh, and we also made community college tuition free for students starting class within six months of graduating high school and gave women the ability to purchase birth control over the counter and without a doctors prescription. We also passed a law legalizing marijuana, and greatly reduced the prison sentences for people caught selling large quantities of other narcotics.

    I can give you dozens (seriously dozens) more progressive policies my state has passed, but hopefully you've gotten my point. When people vote in local and state elections then good things happen. When they don't then you get what you have in Florida.