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Marco Rubio's "win" in South Carolina

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Huffington Post, February 20, 2016: Marco Rubio 'Won' South Carolina Tonight. It Was Actually His Worst Loss Yet.

    I watched speeches by Trump, Rubio, and Cruz last night after Trump's victory in the South Carolina primary. Honestly, those latter two really know how to spin a loss into a victory. Rubio especially. As per the Huffington Post:

    "South Carolina awards all of its delegates to the statewide winner and the winner of each congressional district. The statewide winner gets 29 delegates; the candidates who finish second and third statewide get nothing. Zero. Zilch. The winner of each congressional district gets three delegates. Second- and third-place finishers get nothing except a scolding by Gene Wilder."

    Rubio gets zero delegates and he makes a victory speech. But if he had really won, he would have made the exact same victory speech. One speech fits all possible scenarios...first, second, third. No need to memorize a second place speech, when the first place speech will do.

    I don't know what it is about Marco Rubio. He just kind of gets under my skin...maybe it's his canned "robotic" answers to everything. The quickness of how every scripted word comes out of his mouth, rehearsed over and over again in his mind, but lacking any kind of imaginative deliberation. Point 1...point 2...point 3....blah, blah, blah...all rattled off with an intense machine like precision so quickly that your mind is still on Point 1, while Rubio is rattling off Point 7.

    I get it Marco. You have done your memorization homework well. But can you think on your feet? Stop and take a drink of water before opening your mouth.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Huffington Post: What Was Left Of The Moderate Republican Party Just Died In South Carolina

    With Jeb Bush leaving the race, Marco Rubio is being cast as the remaining hope of "moderate Republicans". John Kasich is considered too far left and is near the bottom in polling.

    But what is a moderate in the Republican Party anymore? As per the HP link above, Marco Rubio, in a reversal of previous statements, now says he "would rescind President Barack Obama’s executive action protecting so-called Dreamers from deportation -- and that he would do so on his first day in office." That doesn't sound moderate. It sounds more like TrumpSpeak.

    "Whatever Rubio’s reversal says about his consistency, or lack thereof, it speaks volumes about the ideological direction of the Republican Party now that South Carolina has apparently winnowed the presidential field. Cruz, Rubio, Trump -- all three want insanely large tax cuts for the rich, all three want to take health insurance away from millions, all three oppose same-sex marriage and now all three have taken up extremely conservative positions on immigration."

    Marco Rubio is one of "them". Once Kasich exits the race, the Republicans will have no moderates in the race. They are all mimicking Trump. But to be fair to the candidates, are not they also just responding to what their constituents want? When Donald Trump gets roars of approval from audiences when he wants to ban Muslims from entering the USA, building a wall across the Mexican border, tearing up the Iran nuclear agreement, or championing the Second Amendment, the other candidates take notice.

    Donald Trump is the voice of the new Republican Party, a party void of critical thinking or empathy. The best Marco Rubio might hope for is the Vice Presidency slot. And to get that he needs to change his tune to sound more like Trump.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Cruz and Rubio gave almost identical in tone victory speeches after their losses in South Carolina. In the beginning of Cruz's speech there was a WTF lag from the crowd that he had to fix by emphasizing that his loss was really a victory. I guess the supporters caught on that they had to sound good on TV and started cheering again. Whatever the disjoint from reality is both Cruz and Rubio share it. The media and pundits are still pumping that Trump is a distraction and the real candidate has yet to be chosen. But as bad as Trump is Cruz and Rubio are actually scary. Their victory/concession speeches were so similar it points to collusion.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The fantasy world Senator Rubio lives in is really something. I've never seen someone give more "victory" speeches after not winning something. He has ten delegates to Trump's 67 and he's acting like he's winning the race. Someone needs to tell him that he has to come in first before he can give any more victory speeches.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Vox, February 20, 2016: Why I'm more worried about Marco Rubio than Donald Trump

    While much of our attention has been focused on Donald Trump, and to a lesser extent, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio has largely been operating under the radar as far as vetting his proposed policies. Vox has done an excellent job of summarizing where Marco Rubio stands on all major issues. I have said that Ted Cruz is scarier than Trump, but now I would have to say that maybe Marco Rubio stands at the top of the "scariest podium".

    Read the Vox article above to become enlightened. Here's the lead paragraphs:

    "When not delighting in the epic meltdown of establishment Republican Party politics, many people I know — my wife, my boss, etc. — are expressing terror at the notion that Donald Trump might actually become president of the United States.

    "I'm more sanguine. Not out of any particular love for Trump, but because he's actually running on a much less extreme agenda than his "establishment" rival Marco Rubio, who's offering a platform of economic ruin, multiple wars, and an attack on civil liberties that's nearly as vicious as anything Trump has proposed — even while wrapping it in an edgy, anxious, overreaction-prone approach to politics that heavily features big risky bets and huge, unpredictable changes in direction."

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    Thoughts?

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    You're very right. A lot of liberals seem to forget that behind Rubio's charming and even tempered personality is a far right Tea Party activist who rode the 2010 wave into the Senate. If he were elected and the Republicans retained control of the Senate then he could have the potential to undo damn near everything President Obama has accomplished in the past eight years.

    He actually scares me more than Trump for a few reasons, but mainly because I think Trump would never get elected, but Rubio actually could if Democrats sit on their hands and think he won't be a disastrous President. If they do then they will reap what they sowed.

  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    You're very right. A lot of liberals seem to forget that behind Rubio's charming and even tempered personality is a far right Tea Party activist who rode the 2010 wave into the Senate. If he were elected and the Republicans retained control of the Senate then he could have the potential to undo damn near everything President Obama has accomplished in the past eight years.

    He actually scares me more than Trump for a few reasons, but mainly because I think Trump would never get elected, but Rubio actually could if Democrats sit on their hands and think he won't be a disastrous President. If they do then they will reap what they sowed.

    Can Trump be stopped? That should be the big question. Anyway Rubio is a "nothing"; when he was in FL , he never attended any of the "meetings". Since the GOP is running this State, things have gotten only worse. But the idiots here love their "churches" so they keep voting with their blinders on.
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    Anyway, I wonder what will stop this GOP madness? What will happen if it ends with Trump and Hillary? I think if that is the case we just about are ready for another "civil" war. I guess Trump will throw all the dirt of her and Bill at her, so this will be a lot of fun, but does it help this country? I doubt it. Neither one should have this important job, however Hillary is my choice if this will end like that.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    I wrote a post on the Tim Tebow effect on a certain segment of the faith based community. There are certain character traits that Tebow has on his kind of followers that make him a leader. At the opposite end of the spectrum, there is Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio also connecting with other groups of followers, but I have to admit that the Donald Trump supporters confuse me the most. What is it in their DNA and/or up bringing that draws them to Donald Trump? There is nothing that would immediately come to mind. His brash macho talk disguises the absolute weakness of his proposals, his mischaracterizations of other candidates and America in general. I would hope that America is better than this, but his cheering audience sometimes reminds me of movie clips of a certain color shirts from pre-World War II Germany.
  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote: I wrote a post on the Tim Tebow effect on a certain segment of the faith based community. There are certain character traits that Tebow has on his kind of followers that make him a leader. At the opposite end of the spectrum, there is Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio also connecting with other groups of followers, but I have to admit that the Donald Trump supporters confuse me the most. What is it in their DNA and/or up bringing that draws them to Donald Trump? There is nothing that would immediately come to mind. His brash macho talk disguises the absolute weakness of his proposals, his mischaracterizations of other candidates and America in general. I would hope that America is better than this, but his cheering audience sometimes reminds me of movie clips of a certain color shirts from pre-World War II Germany.
    Yes, he must have read "Mein Kampf" ; I saw a clip of him when the lights fell out somewhere; I think he should sell fish at an fish market; he's more suited for that.