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In defense of Bernie.

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    There is nothing more radical and extreme than a stock market or economic crash. Opposition to Bernie is formed around he is too radical to get anything done. He is the only person to identify and propose a solution to prevent another crash. The take it easy and compromise attitude plays right into the hands of the people that will benefit from a crash. The widening income gap is directly proportional to crashes and abuses of the financial sector. The gap widens directly with the amount of money poured into the stock market. Just as much money as is made by the .001 is how much money is lost by the lower classes. Bernie knows that and thinks it is wrong. Hillary has no plans to interrupt the upward money flow. Worse than Repealing Glas/Stegall is the Clinton supported CFMA. Bernie needs to be President !!!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Copied from the DNC's home page:

    There are several core beliefs that tie our party together: Democrats believe that we're greater together than we are on our own—that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules. Our party, led by President Obama, is focused on building an economy that lifts up all Americans, not just those at the top.

    Bernie identifies with standing up with those values.

  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

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    There are several core beliefs that tie our party together: Democrats believe that we're greater together than we are on our own—that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules. Our party, led by President Obama, is focused on building an economy that lifts up all Americans, not just those at the top.

    Bernie identifies with stranding up with those values.

    Yes I would love to see Bernie as President, however "big" money will prevent that from happening including the big mouth GOP candidates.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

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    There are several core beliefs that tie our party together: Democrats believe that we're greater together than we are on our own—that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules. Our party, led by President Obama, is focused on building an economy that lifts up all Americans, not just those at the top.

    Bernie identifies with standing up with those values.

    Ditto for Hillary Clinton.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    CNN, February 9, 2016: How did a socialist kibbutz influence Bernie Sanders?

    This is what worries me about Sanders. Will Republicans "play nice" when putting together clips of Bernard Sanders past? How will Donald Trump exploit this?

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt, By the time Bernie has to face a Republican candidate the country will probably be in such financial turmoil that all Bernie will have to do is point at the candidate and say "that is who got us in trouble". None of the Republicans have anything to say other than cut taxes and spending. Bernie can point at the CFMA , futures market and disappearing businesses explaining that there is the money. Tell how taking money out of the economy is destroying the economy. Tell how the Republicans are running the economy like the game of monopoly where you have one winner with all the money. Say he will run the economy like NASCAR. Designed to be on going with everybody having the same chance to succeed. It is too late to scare people with "Better dead than red". He has already convinced a lot of people that he knows the right way. Kids graduating from college with $200,000 in student loans to work in minimum wage jobs and their families supporting them will be sure Bernie voters. Everything we have good in this country has socialist underpinnings. Schools, roads, insurance of all types etc. are all based on sharing the burden. Saving the country after 2008 was done by socializing the bail out. The 2008 disaster was caused by privatizing financial regulations. Bernie will have no trouble identifying the source of our financial problems and he has history to prove it and he will have history providing the precedent for curing it. One too many times has probably past to alibi with it will get better. Nobody denies the income gap and declining standard of living. Pharmaceuticals are making a mockery out of the affordable care act. Status quo and a conservative approach will destroy the economy. We need radical actions and we need it now.
  • Center Left
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    I think you can get that snake oil for less if you buy it by the case. Yes he'll change the world but the cost will not be paid for. Hillary needs to hire an expert to quantify the cost of changing the world for the better and then ask BS (coincidental abbr.) where he's going to get that money. My guess is that it will be added to the 19 Trillion. When you owe 19 what's another 7 ? He'll tell you it will be by taxing Wall street. Sorry BS but you can't answer all questions with that. It doesn't add up.
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    We all have been taught that "socialism" is bad, & almost un-American. BUT in our early days of the Founders, they had some very progressive ideas. Thomas Paine was a very famous writer in the 1700's, who was brought over to America, from England, by the famous Benjamin Franklin. (You know, the guy with the key on a string, tied to a kite, that discovered what electricity was). Ben Franklin was also famous for his actions in the Revolution, including providing a printing press to the young Tom Paine, whose writings were credited for inciting the Revolution. None of them were called "socialist" because that term had not even been invented yet. But the Founding Fathers would certainly now, probably be called "socialist."

    Near 1791, Paine & others began to demand a Republic. In his "Rights of Man" he suggested expansion of (voting) & govt representation. Then he set some radical goals, such as: universal public education, pensions for the aged, state relief for the unemployed, & a graduated income tax. As Paine's friends distributed 100,000 copies of his new work thru-out the country, --- the British government charged Paine with seditiou. (This had the result of turning Paine into a "hero" in Paris). He was elected to the National Convention, but the Jacobins rose to power & sent their opponents to the guillotine. Paine was arrested as an enemy alien. He spent ten months in prison, before James Monroe, (American minister to France) rescued him, & let Paine reside at his home, (for 7 years) while completing "The Age of Reason."

    Then Paine published "Agrarian Justice" -- (his last major work) -- (1792) -- to eliminate existing inequalities of wealth, with a blend of his liberal & democratic convictions. A few of which you might recognize (below):

    *Every person at age 21, should receive fifteen pounds sterling "to enable him or her, to begin in the world."

    *Social Insurance for the Aged" --- (much like Medicare, & Social Security, we have today).

    *Public welfare programs" --- (financed through progressive taxation).

    Thomas Paine had lived a life of fantastic change, met world leaders, traveled the oceans, been loved & hated by many people, was made immortal by his writings, & his writing is still important in places still evolving. He died in 1809.

    "COMMON SENSE and OTHER WRITINGS"

    by Thomas Paine

    Barnes & Noble Classics (New York) -- (2005)

  • Center Left
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    It's what you are used to or comfortable with. People complain about the word Socialism because it's different. Different equals bad. Not that Socialism is bad but you have to reach the whole classroom so keep it extra simple. Too damned many don't have an open mind and they never will. They thought I don't want them breaking bread in our diner either. World didn't come to an end. People are uncomfortable (fear) with change. In Alabama it's as simple as R = good and D = bad. Try to sell me S and see how little cooperation you receive. Bama is the same as Tex, Mis, Ark, Geo, Lou, SC, Ten, Vir, and about 6 or 8 other states. That equals a lot of delegates. This is why if BS gets his chance, it will be not more than a failed experiment. Sad but true commentary to how it's still a simple mind casting a vote.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Vox, February 19, 2016: To understand Bernie Sanders’s political revolution, read his autobiography

    I share the views in this Vox article. Sanders is running a political campaign that effectively mirrors his life's worldviews...an ideological crusade that is really class warfare. In doing so he has to destroy Hillary Clinton as a member of that "ruling class" because of the donations she has received from corporations. This statement from his 1996 campaign for the House is significant:

    "My opponent has been promised $153,000 from the Republican national party, which will come directly from some of the richest people in America. She has already received, and will undoubtedly continue to get, heavy contributions from the some of the largest corporations in America and from groups that represent multi-billion dollar corporate interests," Sanders writes. "Never before had the ruling class of Vermont and the nation paid quite so much attention to a Congressional race in the small state of Vermont."

    Fast forward to 2016, substitute "Hillary Clinton" as his opponent and the statement stands. Bernie Sanders is indeed embarking on a political revolution, tapping the emotions of those who feel marginalized by the current system. There is a lot of truth in what he says about inequality, but the practical reality of pulling it off is next to none. If in the process he has tainted Hillary Clinton to be unelectable, well then he will have achieved the first of his goals. But just where will his revolution go next? For the Sanders supporters, please share your vision of what a Sanders presidency will look like with a Congress that looks just like the current Congress. America is not Vermont.

  • Center Left
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    To win you need large slices of the pie. I agree he'll (so far) get a lot of votes from young voters. He'll get many old white men, it starts to get foggy here...... Oh yes, write him in for the Jewish vote. I think that's a thin slice. Blacks is a large group. I think there's much work to be done..... Asian's - who knows also a thin slice. Hispanics ? I don't know about this. Probably not a lot of Hispanics in Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island, NH, Maine, Mass.

    Women of all colors..... Doubt it. Other Socialists ? That's only about 650 people nationwide, LGBT.... uh I'm not betting on this one. Who else is pulling for him ? Last 2 times I was an older white male voting for Mr. Obama. He got many slices of the pie. I think Mit only got rich people, NE people, and Older White R's. Thus he fell short.

    Maybe it's more optimistic for him. It will be interesting to see what groups of persons he'll get large percentages of.... if it's in deed determined to be. I still expect HRC to wrap up the nomination but you just never know.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt, If Bernie gets elected president he will get majorities in both houses. That is what a Sanders presidency would look like. He is not stealing scraps from the table he is setting the table.
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    My point to the article about Thomas Paine, is that HIS ideas were nearly IDENTICAL to what we call "socialism" now. And HE was one of the Founding Fathers, who were the ones who "built" our Democracy, --- based on the ancient model of Athens, Greece (500 B.C.). --- which is now very adaptable to socialism.

    I love the wonderful people who are running this year. Even Trump holds a special place in my heart. Have you ever seen such a large number of Americans turning out to watch "political speeches"? NEVER. The whole country seems "energized" & fascinated with Politics all of a sudden. There is "excitement" in the air. Nothing like this before, in the last 50 years.

    I have been saying for several years now, that we may be seeing the END OF DEMOCRACY -- that the people have all become too apathetic, and just don't care anymore. But the obvious signs, all seem to indicate, that MILLIONS of people are alive and well, and trying to keep our Democracy ALIVE!! -- It is so precious to see all of that happening. And the fantastic energy we see in the Bernie campaign, & the Hillary campaign -- is so refreshing & Full of Hope, And there also are 2 very bright men, who have drawn enormous crowds & they know how to arouse the "undecided" masses - it's Bernie & Trump..

    We have seen some very powerful men & women, spend all their OWN FUNDS, to try to give Democracy one last chance.

    And it is important to realize who are the people who have made such an important "Sacrifice" -- & one of them is of course - "Bernie Sanders". He is not beholden to any of the Wall Street billionaires, or big money corporations. Consistent in his beliefs, he shows all of us how to represent the "spirit" of America. (His father was a young Polish immigrant , who had to struggle every day to make a living, raise their children, get an education, & just survive).

    But, now, one of their children can actually be running for President of the United States! A first generation DREAMER. It is such a wonderful example of the "Good can still succeed." "Hard work & a cultivated intellect can still Rise to the Top."

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Schmidt, If Bernie gets elected president he will get majorities in both houses. That is what a Sanders presidency would look like. He is not stealing scraps from the table he is setting the table.
    Chet -- Okay thanks. It's reassuring to know that the Dems will have a majority in the House and a veto proof majority (60) in the Senate. Thanks for the insight.
  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Schmidt, If Bernie gets elected president he will get majorities in both houses. That is what a Sanders presidency would look like. He is not stealing scraps from the table he is setting the table.
    Chet -- Okay thanks. It's reassuring to know that the Dems will have a majority in the House and a veto proof majority (60) in the Senate. Thanks for the insight.
    I'm shaking my old head; I've never seen an election like this; let's draw in Apple, the Pope, grandma Bush, the supreme court disaster, Jesus, Israel and Russia etc. Looks like Alice in "wonderland" . Even the NRA joins in giving a "free" camouflaged duffel bags which fits all your guns at a membership fee of only $25 a year. Hallejuja, Jesus will bless all our guns "it' just told me so..