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What Does it Take to Convict a Baltimore Cop Who Murders Someone?

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    I have often wondered why the Media reports repeatedly of all the gun shot victims and not the crimes prevented by some one with a weapon,, according to the CDC reports the majority of gun deaths are suicides and accidents, followed by homicides, and of all the mass shooters not one has been reported as a member of the evil NRA. I believe in prosecution of all straw man purchases and that they should also be charged as an accessory to the crime that was committed with that gun, laws do not reduce gun violence as the lawless are more apt to commit a crime then not. I believe fully in that prior to the issue of a ccw the individual must show a certain level of proficiency with the weapon including a prescribed safety course.does this make me a "gun nut"?
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    johnnycee Wrote: I have often wondered why the Media reports repeatedly of all the gun shot victims and not the crimes prevented by some one with a weapon,

    That's because there is zero, and I repeat ZERO, statistics backing this claim up.

    johnnycee Wrote: does this make me a "gun nut"?

    Yes.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: I have often wondered why the Media reports repeatedly of all the gun shot victims and not the crimes prevented by some one with a weapon,

    That's because there is zero, and I repeat ZERO, statistics backing this claim up.

    johnnycee Wrote: does this make me a "gun nut"?

    Yes.

    No stats eh, one was the last time you read that a person with a weapon stopped a crime? I know of several, but unless it was a slow news day it won't get reported, crime sells news, the more horrific the better the circulation, whether it be the print media or electronic doesn't matter, as for being a :"gun nut" in your eyes, remember that if wasn't for gun carrying nuts none of us here in good ole US of A., would be here. I carry and I do have a CCW , I own several handguns and long guns, I enjoy shooting at the range and I also carry for self protection, I am now a senior citizen and in some peoples eyes that makes me prey, so that's my definition of an armed citizen ,which is my right, and not a so called nut. but then again you enjoy making judgments based on your feelings and not fact.

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    johnnycee Wrote:
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    johnnycee Wrote: Same old rhetoric from the same old bias people , who only believe that the Justice system only works when it fits their narrative of the event, never allow the facts to get in the way of a good story.

    We can flip that narrative and say you've never allowed your biases regarding the sanctity of cops to be changed, no matter how heinous their crime was.

    You have, on countless occasions, championed the fact that cops have a different criminal justice system than the rest of us. You have also insisted that the criminal justice system we have which makes it nearly impossible to charge, let alone convict, a police officer of a crime as being the best criminal justice system the world has ever seen.

    What's the saying again? "[A] grand jury would 'indict a ham sandwich,' if that's what you wanted." So why don't grand juries indict a ham sandwich who murdered an unarmed American citizen? Can it possibly be because the DA doesn't want them to?

    So who's really biased here? The people who want to hold murderous cops accountable in the same way as every other citizen or the people who stick up for the murderous cops and think they deserve a separate set of rules?

    You can say all you want about flipping a narrative but the facts state other wise, little Mr. Rice had a replica /pellet gun which is not a toy, the child all 5'7" and 135 lbs. was pointing this weapon at responding officers to a report of a MAN with a gun, in the same area where 2 officers were slain last year, officers do not listen to bystanders who often say and do things to make a situation worse, in this case shouting that it was a fake gun, although the officers never claimed to have heard this shout. as least not to the investigators to my knowledge, now where is the parent who bought this weapon and what did she /he think this 12 years old would do with this weapon? Now flip that narrative. Now as for my bias , I felt and knew that the cop in LA who shot and killed the kid on the train platform while claiming that he mistakenly reached for his handgun instead of his Taser would go to jail and he did, the other cop who also shot a man in back several times whiles chasing him for a citation offense should and will go to jail, so when the facts state the cause and effect of a crime or non-crime , it's not a miscarriage of Justice just because you think and believe otherwise.

    Again very biased BS J.C. As I said many times the "military training" in this country does it; shoot first then ask questions. Also always shoot to kill; never just to warn or shoot on non lethal body parts. Just shoot someone in the back 16 times; that is their new training? They should throw out all the ex-military, because they see any "offender" as the enemy. They never learned "serve" and "protect" that is not what you learn in Iraq. Any violation of sometimes ridiculous laws warrant a death penalty. You will never learn; just keep on shooting; the more rounds the better.
    No need to highlight your views, your idea of some kind of benevolent policed force and military flies in the face of reality, and needs not be highlighted,we were not trained to wound, no armed force trains that way, we are trained however to eliminate the threat, I can be objective but it seems you cannot , your obvious bias prevents you, you take one ,maybe two incidents and then reach a conclusion that if not all but great majority of police officers are oppressors of the downtrodden, and yet every one of these officers would lay down their own lives protecting you, which btw, 124 have done so this year so far.
    Again it shows your "military" sick mind; "not trained to wound, but eliminate the threat", says it all; thus kill for whatever reason is your motto. You are a very sick individual; get help.
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    Yes Dutch, you are corrrect. It's like cops are street sweepers just cleaning up the crud off the ground. Unfortunately most have insufficient moral content. This thread took a detour through crazy town. Thank you for getting it back on topic.

    Anyone notice the serious racial slant ? Time to start some new stereotypes.

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    johnnycee Wrote: No stats eh, one was the last time you read that a person with a weapon stopped a crime? I know of several, but unless it was a slow news day it won't get reported,

    Yes, that's what I said. There are no stats backing your claim up. There has never been one mass shooting that has ever been stopped by a "good guy with a gun." Zero. Nein. Cero.

    Let's try to keep focused on the actual topic though.

    johnnycee Wrote: as for being a :"gun nut" in your eyes, remember that if wasn't for gun carrying nuts none of us here in good ole US of A., would be here.

    What does that have to do with a murderous cop not being held accountable?

    However, if you are advocating for us to go back to the days of only having single shot muskets then I'm all for it.

    johnnycee Wrote: I carry and I do have a CCW , I own several handguns and long guns, I enjoy shooting at the range and I also carry for self protection, I am now a senior citizen and in some peoples eyes that makes me prey, so that's my definition of an armed citizen ,which is my right, and not a so called nut. but then again you enjoy making judgments based on your feelings and not fact.

    Once again--what does you carrying a gun on your hip have to do with a murderous cop not being held accountable?

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    As the preacher who shot and killed a gunman who already shot two people in his parking lot and when the gunman entered the church with quite a few people inside , the teacher shot and killed him, so to answer your question in regards to stopping a mass shooting, he stopped him before it became a mass shooting, I don't know the amount of dead bodies that is needed to qualify as a mass shooting, but in this case it worked, the same as the Va. Univ. shooting , she was stopped by another person (student) with a gun thereby preventing more deaths, this is reply to the statement of my being a gun nut, now what this has to do with as you call a murderous cop, absolutely nothing , as the cop was NOT a murder, so says the Justice System. but you on the other hand feel that if the system does not validate your own views then the system failed.
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    johnnycee Wrote: As the preacher who shot and killed a gunman who already shot two people in his parking lot and when the gunman entered the church with quite a few people inside , the teacher shot and killed him,

    Not a mass shooting. The person who shot the gunman was also a former police officer who had years of training. The vast majority of gun nuts don't have the same qualifications.

    johnnycee Wrote:the same as the Va. Univ. shooting , she was stopped by another person (student) with a gun thereby preventing more deaths,

    Sorry, but this isn't true. Seung-Hui Cho shot himself in the head. He was not shot by a "good guy with a gun."

    johnnycee Wrote: this is reply to the statement of my being a gun nut, now what this has to do with as you call a murderous cop, absolutely nothing , as the cop was NOT a murder, so says the Justice System. but you on the other hand feel that if the system does not validate your own views then the system failed.

    Au contraire. You, as you often do, brought up a topic that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at hand, which is also known as a red herring.

    You brought up your frustrations with the media not talking about good guys with guns who stop mass shootings, which, as you know, has nothing to do with a jury not being able to reach a verdict against a Baltimore cop.

    And the jury didn't say this cop was not guilty of the charges; they couldn't reach a verdict. That's called a hung jury, not an acquittal. I would have thought you understood the difference between the two considering you were a cop for so many years.

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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Respect Police authority and all people in society.................you'll live longer.

    Preach on.

    How about you say this to Freddie Gray's family? He just happened to be arrested by four police officers who stopped him for walking while black. Or how about you say this to the countless other black Americans who commit the crime of being a certain skin color?

    How much respect should people who are given absolutely no respect by police give back? How much harassment should they have to endure before it's acceptable to get upset about the rampant police abuse and brutality in Baltimore and throughout this country?