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Patriot II, Are we ready?

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  • Democrat
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    The terror recently in France and the Emergency reaction being taken is an example of where America can use to subdue any terror and criminal act in/on our nation. Evaluating France's reaction with intense martial law with mobilizing more military presence, sending our more police authority and having heavy weapons to use with NO Warrant required searches and seizures, makes France a candidate to show the world this is how it is accomplished. Don't think for one minute that our own police and military authorities are not thinking likewise.

    I encourage it and advocate for this type of reaction. There is so much clandestine criminal activity in America that I desire Warrantless search and seizures. I desire more police and military presence. I want all criminals and terrorist to realize don't mess with Americans. France is doing it right and as it should be from a relaxed stand on terror prior to attacks to now intense presence and hunting down these animals. America doesn't have to wait for the next horrific attack, all Americans should support full participation and round up criminal hiding and save victims that are being held. I want those doors knocked down and I want to expose anybody in hiding. Let's take names, do background investigations, expose drug dealers, human traffickers, pedophiles, and eavesdrop on communications all at the same time looking for terrorists. ISIS is not the only terrorist group to look for, there's good ole boy groups that can be just as dangerous. Remember McVeigh? How about the KKK? How about those back-wood survivalist groups? A good way to expose illegal activity is go after it and find it in dark hidden places where our US Court system protects them and allows them to conduct their illegal activity. Our Police authority has their hands tied. We need to change the laws that protect these criminals and allows them to conduct their illegal enterprises.

    Thank You, France for showing us how to hunt down criminals. America, "Let loose the hounds of war" on all criminals and terrorists hiding in our country. There are peaceful ways to manage a country, but heck, criminals and terrorists are never peaceful. America has to change the game plan.....................Patriot II.

    You have to have some reaction to the new video released by ISIS for media attention on how they intend to attack Times Square. All this ISIS crap is getting me more in the reactionary mode. Like my fair headed actor Dirty Harry says, "Make my Day, Punk?

  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    Time for you to stop watching Fox no news I think! You would be the first to bitch if anyone did a warrant less search on you or your family!

    Time to wake up! If anything we need more restrictions not fewer on warrant less searches!

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    pr Wrote:

    Time for you to stop watching Fox no news I think! You would be the first to bitch if anyone did a warrant less search on you or your family!

    Time to wake up! If anything we need more restrictions not fewer on warrant less searches!

    The funny thing is AMC always scolds Europe; now she wants all of a sudden warrantless searches here. Wow that would hurt the NRA of which she's a member; just hoard those guns and bibles and make Carson President so she can also have her picture taken with Jesus.
  • Democrat
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    ......"we need more restrictions not fewer on warrant less searches"......say what? So, I assume hiding criminals and illegal activity is ok with that mindset? ISIS loves that idea so that they may hide their secrets waiting to build on the day for an attack. I am admiring France's actions and this morning was even better, having to set a explosive charge on a stubborn door that could not be kicked in. France is showing America this is how protecting national interests should be accomplished. I acknowledge the fact many in law enforcement are already identifying similar measures beginning after America is attacked again. I say, why wait, just enact the change in laws for the security of our nation................Patriot II. It's coming soon! You all have my vote. Democrats need to show aggression for protecting America.
  • Independent
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: ......"we need more restrictions not fewer on warrant less searches"......say what? So, I assume hiding criminals and illegal activity is ok with that mindset? ISIS loves that idea so that they may hide their secrets waiting to build on the day for an attack. I am admiring France's actions and this morning was even better, having to set a explosive charge on a stubborn door that could not be kicked in. France is showing America this is how protecting national interests should be accomplished. I acknowledge the fact many in law enforcement are already identifying similar measures beginning after America is attacked again. I say, why wait, just enact the change in laws for the security of our nation................Patriot II. It's coming soon! You all have my vote. Democrats need to show aggression for protecting America.
    This again shows you are a hypocrite; if they search your house, the first thing you will scream; you are hurting my "rights", "freedoms" and "privacy" and don't take my "gun" collection away!!!
  • Democrat
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    If no illegal activity is found, I'm good. Hey, I welcome them, please send me prior notice, so I can have cookies and milk ready.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Do you fully understand what your proposing or have you been watching too many terrorist movies and have become convinced that America is seconds away from being invaded by Muslim terrorists who will overthrow our government and impose Sharia Law in America?

    The 4th Amendment reads:

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    I've read a lot of crazy things before, but your proposal for a full blown police state tops the list.

  • Democrat
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    If the process of establishing a Warrant prevents the authorities to seek and destroy criminal elements and/or Terrorism, America will see a change in that Constitutional element. It's called self preservation and protecting thyself from those who desire to promote terrorism. Criminal activism has approached a new dawn in making terrorism a threat to our humanity. Whereby protecting the interests of humanity, common sense will prevail and America will do whatever it desires to protect and serve our humanitarian interest. Our founding fathers who established the Constitution did so under the rules of fair play and unknowing how evil criminal activity can become and use the very Constitution we treasure against us. Just watch how fast martial law and authorities enact action countering Warrantless searches, especially when a group, such s ISIS, attacks our nation. Just watch how a United States comes together denouncing the horrific acts of terror against their families and friends, and see just how far that Constitution means to preventing law enforcement and the military to do their job in seeking and seizing criminal terror. Just watch as how Americans will protest against those crying foul on our law enforcement and military. You will see Americans coming together and agreeing to remove all barriers to law enforcement to have warrants prior to search's and seizures. Just like in France, our President and Congress will be joined at the hip for taking Emergency Actions mobilizing the military to support all States and Law Enforcement in seeking out criminals and capturing/killing suspected terrorists. Yes, I said suspected terrorists. If you identified as suspect, you had better acknowledge authority when it is speaking or else you could be harmed. Reactionary action is very uncontrolled enforcement and could be close to murder in situations. Our world is now becoming a dangerous place identified by the media. America has no alternative because peace does not work well with terrorists like ISIS.
  • Independent
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: If the process of establishing a Warrant prevents the authorities to seek and destroy criminal elements and/or Terrorism, America will see a change in that Constitutional element. It's called self preservation and protecting thyself from those who desire to promote terrorism. Criminal activism has approached a new dawn in making terrorism a threat to our humanity. Whereby protecting the interests of humanity, common sense will prevail and America will do whatever it desires to protect and serve our humanitarian interest. Our founding fathers who established the Constitution did so under the rules of fair play and unknowing how evil criminal activity can become and use the very Constitution we treasure against us. Just watch how fast martial law and authorities enact action countering Warrantless searches, especially when a group, such s ISIS, attacks our nation. Just watch how a United States comes together denouncing the horrific acts of terror against their families and friends, and see just how far that Constitution means to preventing law enforcement and the military to do their job in seeking and seizing criminal terror. Just watch as how Americans will protest against those crying foul on our law enforcement and military. You will see Americans coming together and agreeing to remove all barriers to law enforcement to have warrants prior to search's and seizures. Just like in France, our President and Congress will be joined at the hip for taking Emergency Actions mobilizing the military to support all States and Law Enforcement in seeking out criminals and capturing/killing suspected terrorists. Yes, I said suspected terrorists. If you identified as suspect, you had better acknowledge authority when it is speaking or else you could be harmed. Reactionary action is very uncontrolled enforcement and could be close to murder in situations. Our world is now becoming a dangerous place identified by the media. America has no alternative because peace does not work well with terrorists like ISIS.

    It is called a police state, nothing more, nothing less. When you sacrifice freedom for security you end with neither.

    as for Americans coming together to remove the requirements for warrants you can bet your reactionary ass I will be on the other side even if I am alone.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Our founding fathers who established the Constitution did so under the rules of fair play and unknowing how evil criminal activity can become and use the very Constitution we treasure against us.

    I hate to burst your patriotic bubble, but the colonists only won because they didn't play fair against Great Britain. I encourage you to study up on the actual history of the Revolutionary War and not rely on the glossed over version that school children are taught. The colonies won the war because they refused to play by the rules. They invented the modern day guerrilla warfare that our country is now fighting against. It's pretty ironic when you think about it.

    And I also wouldn't praise our Founding Fathers too much. They did constitute a new form of government that the world had never seen before, but they also enshrined slavery into the Constitution and only let white males vote or hold any position of power.

    What you are calling for is a police state. Plain and simple. I'm sorry, but you can't just throw out the Bill of Rights because you're losing sleep at night after watching propaganda against the scary Muslims. We have rights in this country specifically to protect us from an overreaching government. We don't just rip up the Constitution every time you get scared.

    Your proposal would violate the Third Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the Sixth Amendment, and the Fourteenth Amendment. That may be fine with you, but I would rather die by a terrorist attack than allow my government to turn this country into a police state.

    I'm also not so sure about your belief that the whole country will shout for joy if we shred our Constitution and impose martial law. I'd be very, very careful what you wish for because there's a lot of people out there who actually take our Constitution seriously and won't take something like that lying down.

  • Democrat
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    That's playing right into ISIS desires. They work to promote confusion and discord. While American citizens argue and fight each other, ISIS steps right in. Lone Wolfs as the identification of ISIS hiding in America are just waiting for the appropriate time. For them to watch all the government haters fight with our law enforcement, is exactly what they want.

    So, if your not willing to aid America in rounding up these criminals, what is your great plan.............what I can't see it. Just like the GOP who says Obama isn't doing the right job, where's their plan? It's nice to feel so patriotic, but up to the point where your blindsided with ignorance of the terror behind you. You'll wish that you were more supportive of a martial law and military presence to keep you safe. Of course, becoming victim is often too late for help.

    Strong choices must be made for the safety and protection of all America.

  • Liberal
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    You really are a Conservative, Republican plant aren't you? Come on fess up!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: If no illegal activity is found, I'm good. Hey, I welcome them, please send me prior notice, so I can have cookies and milk ready.
    Not so. When police act they want results. Rather than say sorry to you, you will end up in jail.
  • Independent
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    pr Wrote: You really are a Conservative, Republican plant aren't you? Come on fess up!
    No P.R. she is even worse than that; I think she will vote for Carson, so she can have her picture taken with her AK47 and Jesus holding her while they are taking away her rights. Carson's new Constitution will allow only gun toting super Jesus lovers in this country; all others will be expelled via the Trump plan. So AMC can then become a "crusader general" automatically.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Strong choices must be made for the safety and protection of all America.
    I'm not willing to shred our Constitution because you're scared of Muslims.