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Republicans Can't Cry About "Liberal Media" at Fox Business Debate

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The Republican candidates participating in tonight's debate won't be able to use their favorite rallying cry about the "liberal media" because this one will be airing on the mouthpiece for conservative business interests. That means candidates who don't like a question they are asked will have to think of a different boogeyman to attack because Neil Cavuto and Maria Bartiromo are about as right wing as they come.

    Republicans love to talk about a liberal media, but if the media were truly liberal then they would be talking about the issues that liberals actually care about. Just because a candidate is asked a question about his personal finances doesn't mean that the media is out to get them and just because a candidate is asked a question about her time as CEO at Hewlett-Packard doesn't mean the media is sexist.

    That's what Republicans don't get. The media isn't liberal because they asked you something you don't like.

    So it will be interesting to see how they respond to a question they don't like tonight because if they accuse Fox Business of being the liberal media then I honestly don't know what wouldn't be considered liberal in their minds.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    If they stick to "business things" like asking Carson how his Biblical flat tax (tithe) will generate enough revenue, then it should be okay. If they get sidetracked into Carson's autobiography, then we won't learn anything, and the Christians Crusaders will have a rallying cry for help... and more alms for Ben.
  • Independent
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    I saw a portion of this so called "debate"; the general conclusion I got out of it is that if anyone of these candidates is ever elected then this country is doomed. They've got a weird picture of the world outside the US and still think the US can commandeer the world if you built up a huge army (which of course costs nothing if you see all the slush funds of the Pentagon) They are absolutely not aware of that the US is tiny compared to the rest of the world and that a lot of countries are fed up with the US meddling and hate our guts. Also they still want to change the tax code etc. in their favor but refuse to look at the European model sliding scale ( 0 to 70%). Sorry but they absolutely have no clue about just about anything at all; they all are living on an small "island" called the USA and still think we can rule the world; dictate the Russians, Europe, Chinese what they can do and not do. It is just laughable. The only one who made a bit of sense was Rand Paul, at least he did understand the "no fly zone" as proposed by Bush in Syria, would be a disaster.

    Sure we sent "military" people to train the Jordanian police; weird; look at what is the result here at home since we do the same; we are getting more stupid by the day. But yeah they got shot, so they better look for "real" police trainers out of their own region who understand their culture etc. Likely the US pushed this training down their throat ; someone probably is making some money from it. What a "bully' country have we become.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch -- Yes, as I have watched all these "honest debates" with predictable questions by the moderators and the repetition of memorized, slickly delivered talking points of the candidates, and an audience cheering ignorance and lies, this 1997 statement by Carl Sagan about the dumbing down of America and the celebration of ignorance came to mind:

    “I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

    The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance” -- Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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    The candidates talking points last night about economics, creating jobs and their various tax and spending plans were more designed to bamboozle the audience...or in other words, "bullshit". Wow I could almost smell it through the TV screen. I think I must have cringed so much, my muscles are sore this morning.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Dutch -- Yes, as I have watched all these "honest debates" with predictable questions by the moderators and the repetition of memorized, slickly delivered talking points of the candidates, and an audience cheering ignorance and lies, this 1997 statement by Carl Sagan about the dumbing down of America came to mind:

    “I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

    The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance” -- Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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    The candidates talking points last night about economics, creating jobs and their various tax and spending plans were more designed to bamboozle the audience...or in other words, "bullshit". Wow I could almost smell it through the TV screen. I think I must have cringed so much, my muscles are sore this morning.

    Thanks, Schmidt; yes "Bullshit" with a large B. You did explain the "trade agreement" very well; however Trump thought China was part of it. Wow; that can become President? NONE of the candidates knew anything about the world outside the US, which is a must if you want to be President. The total ignorance of who's involved in Syria as well the politics played there is an "F" indeed. Carson even said that China was fighting there; nuts. Just sent 100 thousands of troops; shoot down the Russians, Iranians, ISIS, all other groups, Assad, etc. problem solved. I guess an European 4th grader knows more than this dumb bunch. All of them wanted a Hitler like army increase; guess what happened to the Third Reich, are we the fourth? Is our 13 billion dollar warship the Bismark?

    AP FACT CHECK: GOP candidates flub some figures in debate

    The Associated Press - By By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER and JOSH BOAK - Associated Press

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_DEBATE_FACT_CHECK_NHOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-11-10-47-52