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The "Biblical Ben Carson" crusade to become president

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Buzzfeed: Ben Carson: Egyptian Pyramids Built For Grain Storage, Not By Aliens Or As Tombs

    In remarks made in a 1998 address at Andrews University, a school associated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to which he belongs, Ben Carson claims that "the pyramids in Egypt were built by the biblical figure Joseph to store grain, and not, as most archeologists contend, as tombs for pharaohs."

    Buzzfeed has unearthed the 1998 video of Carson making these remarks:

    “My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson said. “Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”

    “And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons. And various of scientists have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how—’ you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you.”

    These remarks are just one of many that Carson has made that references the Bible. His flat tax plan of 10 percent is based on the Biblical tithe. Tithing is an Old Testament concept often cited as "a requirement of the Law in which the Israelites were to give 10 percent of the crops they grew and the livestock they raised to the tabernacle/temple." Good for the Israelites...good for American government. According to Carson responding to a question at the Republican debate: “What I agree with is that we need a significantly changed taxation system, and the one that I’ve advocated is based on tithing, because I think God is a pretty fair guy,” Carson said. “And that’s why I’ve advocated a proportional tax system. You make $10 billion, you pay a billion. You make $10, you pay one. And everybody gets treated the same way.”

    When pundits question his inexperience in government, he responds, "It is important to remember that amateurs built the Ark and it was the professionals that built the Titanic."

    If I were to give Carson a nickname it would be "Biblical Ben". His numerous references to the Bible in his political talk have endeared him to his Christian evangelical base. I just wonder if elected if would he try mold the government to be something more like his Seventh Day Adventist church. Don't chuckle and raise your eyebrows like it can't happen. He is the new leader in the Republican polls and in a head to head match-up against Hillary Clinton they are tied. Being tied in a poll with Hillary really means that Biblical Ben has the advantage because his crusaders will vote in enormously large numbers while Democrats, lukewarm on Hillary, will find an excuse to not vote.

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    Schmidt, I already gave quite a few comments in the "forum" section about this guy; it is a very sick person. How a surgeon can sink so low and be that weird is unbelievable. How can you believe that a "dead" person who did not even know the world was not flat, let alone knew where America was, come back alive and well, somewhere in 1800's and visits the US, while we have never heard from that guy since his death until now As a surgeon you should also know that "brains" do not transmit their contents to others except to your own body. Once dead the brain stops all together and all data in it dies with the person. Neither do dead bodies fly and come back flying 1800 years later, which logically never happened. So a total silly religion. If a president has this all as a background, then I fear for this country that we will move back to the stone ages. He has no time for governing because he has to read the bible first; at least two times a day as was reported. He'll fit in great with the Kentucky clan and can have his gun engraved with a crusader logo as well bible texts.
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    The requirements to become a surgeon are as follows - a steady hand, lack of empathy and a good memory. Intelligence isn't necessarily at the top of the list.
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    pr Wrote: The requirements to become a surgeon are as follows - a steady hand, lack of empathy and a good memory. Intelligence isn't necessarily at the top of the list.
    P.R. you forgot the "fat" wallet and of course made sure that the "victim's" come back for a repeat performances or if it are two headed babies then you know the outcome. Praise the Lord; neither do I think "bibles" are instruction manuals on how to operate or how to become or be a President. Jesus did not show up in 1800 may be he missed the horse and buggy taxi as well did not show up for work 200 years later either; could he have died may be?
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    Carson is suddenly starting to be called out for his fabrications. He and Carly are nothing but opportunistic liars and frauds and even the dumbest if the Repunlicas are starting to see it.

    As scary as it seems, Trump makes more sense than any of them at the present. Sad

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    P.R. the smiley face looks a bit like Carson after one of his un-successful surgeries; that is what you get if you use the bible as instruction manual.
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    I think he swallowed a scapel after his last brain surgery.
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    It's been interesting watching Ben Carson's campaign implode before our very eyes today. First his crazy quotes about the pyramids, then his story about his rough and tumble youth falling apart, and now it's reported that he lied about a scholarship to West Point.

    Did he think none of this would come out if he started gaining traction? I have a feeling his poll numbers are about to drop as fast as they skyrocketed.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    It's been interesting watching Ben Carson's campaign implode before our very eyes today. First his crazy quotes about the pyramids, then his story about his rough and tumble youth falling apart, and now it's reported that he lied about a scholarship to West Point.

    Did he think none of this would come out if he started gaining traction? I have a feeling his poll numbers are about to drop as fast as they skyrocketed.

    Jared, he was here in FL for a book signing event; they were even camped outside; I guess it means we have a lot of ignorant ( In Dutch "debiel" which means "achterlijk" backwards uneducated mentally sick people) people here. How come?
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    heard yesterday that ben was complaining that next they'll be looking at something he did ingrate school. hey, ben? if democratic candidates can be examined for something they did way in the past then the same applies to you, you little whiner.
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    About the idea of "tithing" in the Bible, -- the way I was taught, a Christian should donate 10% of his earnings to the church. It was more or less a "suggestion" as to the amount required. If one felt inclined to donate more, it was welcomed, and if it was less, it would be understood as doing the best one could do. But keep in mind, this pertains to the "church" donation.

    When it comes to "taxation" this is a totally different thing. -- The tithe is owed to God. -- The Taxes are owed to the Govt.

    In the Bible, it mentions that Jesus was born in a stable, because Mary & Joseph were on their way to Bethlehem, in order to pay their taxes. And when they got to the Inn, there was no room for them there, so they had to stay in the stable.

    ------ Bible: New Testament: [ LUKE 2: 1 - 14 ]

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    eternal flame Wrote:

    About the idea of "tithing" in the Bible, -- the way I was taught, a Christian should donate 10% of his earnings to the church. It was more or less a "suggestion" as to the amount required. If one felt inclined to donate more, it was welcomed, and if it was less, it would be understood as doing the best one could do. But keep in mind, this pertains to the "church" donation.

    When it comes to "taxation" this is a totally different thing. -- The tithe is owed to God. -- The Taxes are owed to the Govt.

    In the Bible, it mentions that Jesus was born in a stable, because Mary & Joseph were on their way to Bethlehem, in order to pay their taxes. And when they got to the Inn, there was no room for them there, so they had to stay in the stable.

    ------ Bible: New Testament: [ LUKE 2: 1 - 14 ]

    Sorry Eternal; what has that anything to do with this evangelical Carson nut? Was he born in a stable? How many times I have to tell you that "bibles' were written by earthly people and consist of just human made paper and ink. I also do not care if those people paid taxes. I do care that I have to pay taxes. The church is just a business; lots of their employees thrive on the tax free status; therefore churches should be taxed as well on their properties, gold/paintings etc. hoarded over the ages.

    Please read my previous thread above what I think about this idiot Carson who believes totally dead people can show up 1800 years later (but logically never did) as well believes the world is 6000 years old etc. Wake up Eternal "bible" texts mean nothing; reality means something!! What we need in the White House is an non-religious person; who thinks on how humans and the world do interact regardless of religion; not just only "pray" or have an unseen, never met ghost, "bless" this country even if they totally screw up on everything.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    It's been interesting watching Ben Carson's campaign implode before our very eyes today. First his crazy quotes about the pyramids, then his story about his rough and tumble youth falling apart, and now it's reported that he lied about a scholarship to West Point.

    Did he think none of this would come out if he started gaining traction? I have a feeling his poll numbers are about to drop as fast as they skyrocketed.

    Carson claims to be another "man of God" like Huckabee. But in claiming his God spot (is it on the right hand or the left hand?) he seems to ignore his own Ninth Commandment: "You should not bear false witness against they neighbor." Well maybe a literal interpretation excuses Carson from bearing false witness against himself (lying) in his autobiography of lies. But his Hitler, Nazi and psychopath references to Obama don't quite seem to fit that Ninth Commandment.

    Carson is just like all the rest of the Republican tribe in that regard: Invoke God and religion for your own selfish gains. The Christian Crusader voters will not question you if they think you are doing "God's work". However, I think the Bible also had something to say about sin and casting stones as well [John 8:7]. Guess God has excused Carson from that as well.

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    Schmidt Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    It's been interesting watching Ben Carson's campaign implode before our very eyes today. First his crazy quotes about the pyramids, then his story about his rough and tumble youth falling apart, and now it's reported that he lied about a scholarship to West Point.

    Did he think none of this would come out if he started gaining traction? I have a feeling his poll numbers are about to drop as fast as they skyrocketed.

    Carson claims to be another "man of God" like Huckabee. But in claiming his God spot (is it on the right hand or the left hand?) he seems to ignore his own Ninth Commandment: "You should not bear false witness against they neighbor." Well maybe a literal interpretation excuses Carson from bearing false witness against himself (lying) in his autobiography. But his Hitler and psychopath references to Obama don't quite seem to fit that Ninth Commandment.

    Carson is just like all the rest of the Republican tribe in that regard: Invoke God and religion for your own selfish gains. Voters will not question you if they think you are doing "God's work". However, I think the Bible also had something to say about sin and casting stones as well [John 8:7]. Guess God has excused Carson from that as well.

    Yes Schmidt; drag in whatever "God" then the "herd" will follow you. Indeed like you said "Invoke God and religion for your own selfish gains" that is where it is all about. Except he's even a bit more crazy than Cruz or Huckabee, by belonging to a church which actually should not exist anymore because a long dead middle east guy forgot his GPS bearings when he had to fly his non-existing ghost to the US (in Kentucky?) during the 1800's and never made it, even 200 years later. As a surgeon you should know better, let alone President.
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    You can tell a lot about a person by looking at their home. Take a look at Ben Carson inside his home and how he has it decorated. It's an 8 bedroom, 12 bathroom mansion sitting on 48 acres.

    Daily Mail: Inside Ben Carson's eccentric Maryland mansion - complete with a shrine to himself, gold leaf columns and a portrait WITH Jesus

    Take a peek. Ha!