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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Media Matters: 10 Of The Worst Moments From Morning Joe's Fawning Koch Brothers Interview

    As everyone knows by now, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski had an exclusive interview on MSNBC with David and Charles Koch, which went very well for the Koch brothers based on the soft ball questions. Here is a sampling of the questions compliments of Media Matters:

    SCARBOROUGH: I want to ask you something personally. Because Mika and I talked about this when we had spent a little time with Liz and you before, about how surprised you seemed a few years back at the level of vitriol leveled against you and your family, even Harry Reid calling you un-American. Something that we talked about on our show time and time again ... What kind of personal impact did that have on you and your family, and were you shocked by the level of vitriol?

    SCARBOROUGH: When we've heard about the Koch brothers, the Koch brothers, everybody talks about the Koch brothers like you're conjoined twins. But you all are actually very different. Talk about the misperception, first of all, and then talk about how you guys are just different people.

    SCARBOROUGH: How did you feel the night all the election results came in after Harry Reid and the Democrats had run against you and your brother all year and it ended up that you guys won most of the races that you got involved in?

    SCARBOROUGH: It's hard to find people in New York, liberals, we were talking about this before, liberals or conservatives alike, who haven't been touched by your graciousness, whether it's towards the arts or cancer research. Do you think you got that instinct from your mom?

    SCARBOROUGH: Isn't it interesting, though, that as time goes by and government's gotten larger and larger, what we've certainly found when we go out and speak on college campuses is a real instinct to move towards a more libertarian position, whether it's on economic issues where people want you out of their -- want the government out of their lives or social issues, where it seems like they want the government out of their bedroom. Even though you've talked before about your disgust with what's happening in Washington, D.C., it does seem like Americans are actually a lot hungrier for this message than they were when you ran.

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    Maybe Joe Scarborough is in the running to be one of the moderators for the Republican debates. With questions like that, even Donald Trump would love him (while privately ridiculing him).

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Media Matters: 10 Of The Worst Moments From Morning Joe's Fawning Koch Brothers Interview

    As everyone knows by now, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski had an exclusive interview on MSNBC with David and Charles Koch, which went very well for the Koch brothers based on the soft ball questions. Here is a sampling of the questions compliments of Media Matters:

    SCARBOROUGH: I want to ask you something personally. Because Mika and I talked about this when we had spent a little time with Liz and you before, about how surprised you seemed a few years back at the level of vitriol leveled against you and your family, even Harry Reid calling you un-American. Something that we talked about on our show time and time again ... What kind of personal impact did that have on you and your family, and were you shocked by the level of vitriol?

    SCARBOROUGH: When we've heard about the Koch brothers, the Koch brothers, everybody talks about the Koch brothers like you're conjoined twins. But you all are actually very different. Talk about the misperception, first of all, and then talk about how you guys are just different people.

    SCARBOROUGH: How did you feel the night all the election results came in after Harry Reid and the Democrats had run against you and your brother all year and it ended up that you guys won most of the races that you got involved in?

    SCARBOROUGH: It's hard to find people in New York, liberals, we were talking about this before, liberals or conservatives alike, who haven't been touched by your graciousness, whether it's towards the arts or cancer research. Do you think you got that instinct from your mom?

    SCARBOROUGH: Isn't it interesting, though, that as time goes by and government's gotten larger and larger, what we've certainly found when we go out and speak on college campuses is a real instinct to move towards a more libertarian position, whether it's on economic issues where people want you out of their -- want the government out of their lives or social issues, where it seems like they want the government out of their bedroom. Even though you've talked before about your disgust with what's happening in Washington, D.C., it does seem like Americans are actually a lot hungrier for this message than they were when you ran.

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    Maybe Joe Scarborough is in the running to be one of the moderators for the Republican debates. With questions like that, even Donald Trump would love him (while privately ridiculing him).

    Schmidt, it does not really show what they are all about, that would have been more interesting. Ask Eternal.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I want to send a link of this interview to every Republican who insists we have a liberal media bias in our country. Too bad MSNBC decided not to add the interview to their YouTube page.
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    MSNBC totally owned by Comcast now! What can you expect? Instead of dumping Morning Blow they gave him another hour to bloviate on and on about nothing. Most of the good people that were on MSNBC are long gone now or stuck in low viewership time slots. They are working on getting rid of Chris Hayes next. Rachael Meadow probably has too high rating to let her go but that's the only reason.

    Remember, there is a good reason most people say "Comcast sucks"!

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    Hey, I must have missed something --what is wrong with MSNBC? Did they change ownership or something? I have vaguely noticed lately a more "right wing bias" than usual. But in the last 2 days, the "sucking up" sound from Morning Joe & Mika was weird to watch. Having an Interview with the KOCH Brothers was enough to curdle my wheaties, but all the strange behavior of servitude was halfway nauseating. I couldn't believe it!! What happened? Did the Koch Bros BUY MSNBC?

    If they could have put a "LIE detector" on those 2 old Koch Bros, it would have blown all the fuses in the building. I did not hear the entire thing, but every word I did hear, & their attitude of "fair play" and "worry about the middle class" was in total opposition of every deed they have ever done in 30 years or more. They BUY colleges so they can control the curriculum, and brainwash the college kids to think "conservative" (insert brain-dead) ideology that will only benefit the super-rich & totally destroy any people who are not millionaires. If they could manage it, they would definitely prefer to turn this nation back to the days of "slavery" --- only this time half of the "slaves" would be White. No discrimination. Equal opportunity servitude.

    First of all, the father of the Koch Bros was Fred C. Koch, who lived in Soviet Russia for a few years, learning all the tricks of the OIL business from Joseph Stalin himself (Communist dictator of Russia) -- & of course, they got along well with Mr. Stalin, -- & immediately upon return to the USA, Daddy Koch joined the John Birch Society, & got himself on the National Council. (The leadership of the JBS). And by now, you should know that the John Birch Society was deeply entrenched inside the Republican Party, & the JBS founder, Robt Welch, clearly announced he did not believe in "democracy." So he spent most of his life trying to destroy it. The JBS had thousands of "secret" meetings every month, & they infiltrated huge numbers of existing groups, & set up "propaganda" outlets on their own radio stations, some TV channels, & many media outlets, & various types of publications. (Magazines & News Letters).

    It was a first priority for the JBS to get into the various "churches" to start spreading the Birch message, intermixed into the sermon, so that they could brain-wash hundreds of people at a time, every Sunday. They even had married couples go to two different churches, (wife to one, & husband to another one), so as to DOUBLE their impact on spreading & controlling the message coming from the pulpits. Very soon the "right wing" garbage was spewing everywhere, & America was leaning more & more to the "right wing" patterns of thought & opinion. All of it had been done very deliberately, with great planning, (a very "subversive" force in our country's decision making) & in our Politics. The Birchers started up operations in 1958, and by 1963 they had killed JFK, & began the slander campaign against "liberals" & "anti-war" people. And by 1968, they had also killed Robt Kennedy (a liberal Catholic, who was trying to end all the stupid "wars") that were bankrupting our nation, and were exploiting VietNam & murdering innocent American boys (soldiers) who were not given any CHOICE about going to war, since they were "drafted" into the Army against their will. It was either the War or it was Jail. That was why there were so many protests, & young men going to Canada, & people "refusing to die, for an unjust unnecessary War." But for some reason, the Republicans never found a War they didn't like. Possibly because their sons can "buy their way out of it." They can go to some ivy league college, or pay off their Congressmen. The RICH never have to die (or suffer) in any of these wars they are always starting (for illegally acquiring more OIL, for instance). NO, you notice that Geo."W" Bush, Jr, never even had to show up for meetings, in his National Guard unit, in Texas. NOPE, he was AWOL. (There are books about this).

    The Koch Brothers think nothing of "subverting" the United States Supreme Court, to get their way. That truly has to be, according to the Founding Fathers, -- deep TREASON, against a "free" society, which is supposed to "decide on, & Vote in our leaders." Our Judges are to be honest, impartial law-makers, who administer justice fairly & with honor. It is not to be run by a bunch of Fat Cat crooks, who are motivated by "power and greed" - & are paid for by the Koch Bros.

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    MSNBC was owned by GE, hardly a bastion of liberalism, now that Comcast owns it they see it as a cash cow. They have destroyed whatever "liberalism" it ever had. But the, CNN is even worse and Fox never ever counted for anything but right wing propaganda for the under, misinformed. Don't bother with any of them anymore. Even PBS has been compromised by the Koch suckers thanks to their "endowments". PBS is terrified to say anything negative about them anymore as they need their ownership.
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    pr Wrote: MSNBC was owned by GE, hardly a bastion of liberalism, now that Comcast owns it they see it as a cash cow. They have destroyed whatever "liberalism" it ever had. But the, CNN is even worse and Fox never ever counted for anything but right wing propaganda for the under, misinformed. Don't bother with any of them anymore. Even PBS has been compromised by the Koch suckers thanks to their "endowments". PBS is terrified to say anything negative about them anymore as they need their ownership.
    P.R. good observation; I already said in the past on how the media works in this country; even Schmidt protested on what I said. It is clear that the media slowly but surely will be in the hands of moguls who have their own agenda and keep pushing that. That is why I'm glad we can get the European un-biased news and compare. Indeed as Eternal says this country is taken over by the evangelical far right. Just look at all the GOP candidates all of them are fanatic evangelicals (may be except Trump? but he plays along)
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    pr Wrote: Even PBS has been compromised by the Koch suckers thanks to their "endowments". PBS is terrified to say anything negative about them anymore as they need their ownership.

    I agree. Journalism is going through a really tough period right now. Corporations and rich individuals buying the media is nothing new in America, but it really seems to be getting out of control.

    There are very few media organizations who don't take corporate money, so it really shouldn't surprise any of us that these media organizations are fawning all over their sugar daddy's.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    pr Wrote: Even PBS has been compromised by the Koch suckers thanks to their "endowments". PBS is terrified to say anything negative about them anymore as they need their ownership.

    I agree. Journalism is going through a really tough period right now. Corporations and rich individuals buying the media is nothing new in America, but it really seems to be getting out of control.

    There are very few media organizations who don't take corporate money, so it really shouldn't surprise any of us that these media organizations are fawning all over their sugar daddy's.

    Jared, I told you a while back that the media here is getting more biased; yes the moguls are taking over, which indeed means a more far right favoritism.
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    But do you know what this all MEANS? This means we no longer have Freedom of Speech in this country. And we are therefore Doomed. It means we are Germany right at the time the NAZI's took over. Then come the OVENS & the mass killing of 6 million Jews. The darling Koch Brothers & most other right wingers, freely ADMIT that they want to take away our health care, and our jobs, and our salaries, & our homes --- in other words, they WANT US TO DIE. This is probably the most important moment in the last 50 years, where they are going to "shut down" our elections, & pretty soon, we will no longer have anyone on OUR SIDE in the whole U.S. MEDIA. That is when they start putting us all into concentration camps, & shut down any liberal places, like universities. When hundreds of thousands of us have NO JOBS, then they can force us into concentration FEMA camps, & either work us to death, or just incinerate us like they did 6 million Jews. And, we don't even have the good old USA, to come rescue us. Great Britain & France are probably fed up, due to Bush, Jr's phoney Iraq War in 2003, so we can't expect much help from them. We have just been too apathetic, while the GOP was rigging our elections, and our learning academies, and buying up all our businesses, etc. Of course, now they OWN (having bought & paid for our Supreme Court system). So now our brilliant U.S. Govt is nothing but a "moving paper fantasy." Just a weak illusion to keep us calm, while they plan for (and arm) to "exterminate" us like they killed the Jews in Nazi Germany. ARE WE GOING to LET THEM? ---- NOTE: "Those who do not LEARN from History, are condemned to Repeat it."

    Here is a nice video/song from the movie "Silent Running" -- by Joan Baez -- the theme song: "Rejoice In the Sun" ---- -------------- youtu.be/NkFo5D-NJMU

    (The movie tells when we have depleted the earth so much, that our trees cannot live here, the American Forest Service builds giant space capsules, & sends thousands of trees, plus other plants & animal species up there, to preserve them all from extinction. Also, small robots are there to carry some of the burden.

    At this time, Earth may have outlived its usefulness, due to pollution, excessive warfare, & dangerous attitudes among the various peoples on the earth. So perhaps the only survival method may include sending a few to "capsules" in outer space.

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    One Tin Soldier - "Peace on Earth"
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    Eternal, I guess you've gone a bit overboard; don't forget the US is not alone on this world, so whatever happens here is not happening elsewhere. It is as I said many times just like look at history of the world and the demise of empires. Sure the US "empire" will certainly disappear and someone else will take its place, but that does not mean the end of the world as we know it. Certain species can adapt and survive as well. So don't worry too much. You always can move to Iceland or Australia or Canada if it gets to nutty here. Space capsules won't work; neither living on Mars without re-supply from earth. So don't worry too much about that. Trump will create beautiful old age homes for you and me and we will be happy as little kids.
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    For profit . That says it all. For people would make it a better country , world. Look at how environmentalism for profit works. Wind powered generator have three very large slow turning blades. Three large blades are probably the least efficient way to produce power. But three blades have a significant profit result. Primary reason for three blades is they are esthetically pleasing consequently more acceptable to locals. Big profit motive for three blades is three blades require more generators to produce same amount of power as more efficient generators. ? GE makes generators ? More efficient generators would have multiple shorter blades higher up on towers with guy wires. Judged to be not pleasant to look at, therefore dropped. I told the owner of a large engineering company that esthetics was the primary parameter for wind generator designs. He said no way.
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    Yes, it is hard to be happy and content, with a full knowledge about Germany in WWII. The kids nowadays did not grow up with Nazi films, showing what it was like all over Europe, when the Nazi's invaded in many countries & massacred all the people that lived there. I have many neighbors who speak German & had close ties to what was happening, & almost all Jews in this country were aware, if not involved in that episode of history. I remember their slogan: "Never Again". A relative of mine worked in a bomber plant (where they built airplanes for the bombing of Japan) & one of the bombers she worked on, was the actual one that dropped the Atom Bomb on Hiroshima, Japan. It was horrific. But it was necessary to stop the Nazi Empire from over-taking the world. It is still too complicated for me to grasp it all. But I knew from day one, before I could walk, that I'd never want another Nazi in my country. And here we are, with members of the GOP congress doing subversive things to cause more wars, & bankrupting our country, & making laws in this country to favor neo-Nazi politics.

    Now they are threatening to curtail all the benefits we all have Voted for in 55 years, in a free democracy. But the crooked selfish GOP don't want us to have any benefits WE PAID FOR, with our taxes all these years. NO, they have stolen all that money, & now don't want to pay it back, so they can spend it on more WARS, endlessly. They don't have the right to steal our money & put it into a "tax-free" zone where they can use it to make even more money on "interest". It is OUR money they stole, and they should have to "pay it back -- with interest" --- or else all go to JAIL. And since we are going to release a few prisoners anyway, it should not be hard to find room for a few hundred GOP crooks. We can see to it that they get their TV dinners, & clean striped jump-suits. (Instead of their usual tuxedo's & fancy "gourmet" cuisine).

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    Yes, it is hard to be happy and content, with a full knowledge about Germany in WWII. The kids nowadays did not grow up with Nazi films, showing what it was like all over Europe, when the Nazi's invaded in many countries & massacred all the people that lived there. I have many neighbors who speak German & had close ties to what was happening, & almost all Jews in this country were aware, if not involved in that episode of history. I remember their slogan: "Never Again". A relative of mine worked in a bomber plant (where they built airplanes for the bombing of Japan) & one of the bombers she worked on, was the actual one that dropped the Atom Bomb on Hiroshima, Japan. It was horrific. But it was necessary to stop the Nazi Empire from over-taking the world. It is still too complicated for me to grasp it all. But I knew from day one, before I could walk, that I'd never want another Nazi in my country. And here we are, with members of the GOP congress doing subversive things to cause more wars, & bankrupting our country, & making laws in this country to favor neo-Nazi politics.

    Now they are threatening to curtail all the benefits we all have Voted for in 55 years, in a free democracy. But the crooked selfish GOP don't want us to have any benefits WE PAID FOR, with our taxes all these years. NO, they have stolen all that money, & now don't want to pay it back, so they can spend it on more WARS, endlessly. They don't have the right to steal our money & put it into a "tax-free" zone where they can use it to make even more money on "interest". It is OUR money they stole, and they should have to "pay it back -- with interest" --- or else all go to JAIL. And since we are going to release a few prisoners anyway, it should not be hard to find room for a few hundred GOP crooks. We can see to it that they get their TV dinners, & clean striped jump-suits. (Instead of their usual tuxedo's & fancy "gourmet" cuisine).

    Eternal, what did you drink or smoke? It is not as bad as in the past; people have much more than in the olden days; much more international interface as well food and trade; you are living way too much in the past. The thing however, where I agree with you on, is the uprising of the far right wing evangelicals who are a danger to this country. The reason is as I said many times , that as soon as religion gets into government then it becomes something like the Maya's/Inca's; then we will be offered to the GOP "god's. Reality goes right out of the window then; we just have to kneel for these people and accept everything used for their own agenda. That is exactly the problem having only two parties.