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  • Democrat
    Julian, CA
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    If enough Americans have become fed up with dumping trillions of tax dollars into that bottomless hell hole called the middle east then they will elect a President who will get us out of these endless wars and arms dealing all over the planet and begin using the people tax dollars to rebuild America, in other words, no patriotic, sensible American should be voting for any Presidential candidate that wants to continue the warmongering, counterproductive, insane foreign policies of the U.S. Government during the last two generations since Vietnam.
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    progressiveconnie Wrote: If enough Americans have become fed up with dumping trillions of tax dollars into that bottomless hell hole called the middle east then they will elect a President who will get us out of these endless wars and arms dealing all over the planet and begin using the people tax dollars to rebuild America, in other words, no patriotic, sensible American should be voting for any Presidential candidate that wants to continue the warmongering, counterproductive, insane foreign policies of the U.S. Government during the last two generations since Vietnam.
    Connie 100% right on; don't we have Veterans enough? Now this country has become the "begging" country of the world since there is no money for "welfare" as well proper Veteran care. Neither for infrastructure, cancer research, education, or any transportation even animal shelters. Our foreign policies stink; lets irritate the Chinese as well and sent warships, which don't cost anything to operate either. Wow what a country. But the problem is that none of the candidates think like you or I do. So it will be the same old or even worse. Amen
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    I just received a mass mailing the other day from some right wing hate group telling me "America is under siege" we need more troops on the ground, the Liberals are destroying "our" country, time to bomb the Middle East into oblivion.

    Unfortunately, the typical uneducated, misinformed American voter actually believes all this propaganda and they are the ones who can be religiously depended on to get out and vote!

    There are even a few misinformed individuals here that still naively believe the military is our friend rather than biggest enemy!

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    Ft.myers, FL
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    Yes P.R. the mentality here is going down in a rapid acceleration; just look at the Presidential candidates that will tell you enough. On top of it we irritate the Chinese and are upset afterwards that they now follow our warships with submarines.

    The issue is the love for guns here which gives them a feeling of power because most people have an inferiority complex, by indoctrination, it is hammered in, that the US rules the world and is number one. History will tell you that such attitude is doomed; ask Hitler, Napoleon, Ceasar etc. Sorry church and guns don't make a country great or create respect in the world. Instead it only creates more enemy's.

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    Once, many years ago, I thought of a way to launch a "friendship" drone, that would fly over a potential "enemy" nation, and drop little cards of HELLO, or little balloons, with tiny gifts in them. Some could have candy, others could have small stuffed animals, and little harmonicas, --- whatever you could imagine. Larger carriers could deliver food, diapers, or any little thing you could dream up. I also liked the idea of dropping flowers, small bottles of perfume, & comic books. I would love to see the reaction, if we could actually do that in some foreign land. It could have a funny name, like COMIC RELIEF.

    Just thought of a small radio, or camera, or --- whatever you could imagine... Barbie dolls, (not G.I. Joe dolls) and a few funny notes from little kids up to high school age --- with jokes & cartoons, & pictures of our little fuzzy pets.

    Oh well --- it is a strange idea. I wonder if anybody would like to TRY it? ---- Write your suggestions to E.F.

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    eternal flame Wrote:

    Once, many years ago, I thought of a way to launch a "friendship" drone, that would fly over a potential "enemy" nation, and drop little cards of HELLO, or little balloons, with tiny gifts in them. Some could have candy, others could have small stuffed animals, and little harmonicas, --- whatever you could imagine. Larger carriers could deliver food, diapers, or any little thing you could dream up. I also liked the idea of dropping flowers, small bottles of perfume, & comic books. I would love to see the reaction, if we could actually do that in some foreign land. It could have a funny name, like COMIC RELIEF.

    Just thought of a small radio, or camera, or --- whatever you could imagine... Barbie dolls, (not G.I. Joe dolls) and a few funny notes from little kids up to high school age --- with jokes & cartoons, & pictures of our little fuzzy pets.

    Oh well --- it is a strange idea. I wonder if anybody would like to TRY it? ---- Write your suggestions to E.F.

    Eternal, nothing new the "allied" forces dropped bread, food etc. to the low countries in Europe just at the ending of the war. Since that time the US has gone downhill in a total opposite way. Also dropping food etc. in the present war zones does not do any good because they don't like western food anyway (which is proven by the refugees flooding Europe) ; dropping bibles like some nut heads are doing makes them only more fanatic; dropping figs, dates, couscous, beetle nuts, goat milk and meat will have a better effect. Also cellphones, all the refugees seem to have them immediately; that will help the Apple stocks.
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    Thanks for your feedback. Yes, a lot of dreaming goes along with solutions to war. Nowadays, the world is so corrupt and bitter, that most things are met with skepticism, to say the least. Even a saint would get spat upon & heckled, and in the old days, they burnt "Joan of Arc" at the stake, for trying to help her king win the war. From what I can gather, the story of Joan of Arc was a TRUE STORY. But I don't know for sure..... No matter what we do, or try to do, seems to only make things worse. The Middle East is such a Hell Hole, it does not seem to have any solution, & as long as we keep pretending we can FIND the solution, we are just digging our own grave, faster and deeper. The expense of warfare is enough to destroy our Economy, if we keep this up, --- waging war with several nations, while our govt is going bankrupt due to Republican greed.

    And if you realize our GOP leaders, have been in bed with Soviet Communists for 2 generations or more, at least since 1960, when the John Birch Society let Fred C. Koch (father of the Koch Bros) -- who lived in Soviet Russia, learning all of the OIL business, & then came back to Wichita, KS to increase his wealth all over the USA, & used the Birch apparatus of many radio stations, & TV stations, & magazines, etc -- plus the pulpits of many churches, -- to spread subversive communist ideas

    all over America, (prominently, they said "America was not supposed to be a DEMOCRACY" -- which is a TOTAL LIE) and from there they started spreading slander against our leaders, such as JFK, who they killed in 1963) -- & all of this was to takeover the US Government, & turn it into a Fascist Communist Dictatorship, where they "rig" our elections, where they are out-sourcing all our industry to other nations, so OUR people have no jobs, but the wealthy GOP corporate CEO's are making out like "bandits" -- (which they are). The Koch brothers are actual Communists (their father raised them in Russia) & they are doing anything they can to destroy America (including waging useless wars, to bankrupt our economy & kill off all our young men who could defend us). The GOP have no compassion for the workers or middle class here, although they pretend to be "so Christian" all the time, with their phoney Falwell religions, which are based on Greed & Bullshit.

    I have spoken recently about the Moral Majority, which robbed their donors & the IRS, and the U.S. Postal service all at the same time. It shows how far they will go, for MONEY, & POWER, & then tell hideous LIES to hypnotize their Flock.

    Recently, they put out the "Left Behind" series of "fictional" Novels, & they preach that to their congregations, so that quite a few of them actually believe, that when they get old, they do not actually die, but just float up to heaven on a pink cloud or a golden chariot, & live in glorious splendor in a castle (possibly Trump Tower) & drink champagne & eat caviar & float in their swimming pool all day. At night, they cruise and booze in their chauffeur-driven limousines.

    But I think that the words "left behind" actually describes their success in grade school, about the time they should have been studying "science". The general wisdom of our GOP candidates is rather dismal, & makes me shudder to think what could happen if any of them gains control of our Congress. George Bush as an example. He was drunk or on dope most of the time he was supposed to be in the National Guard in Texas (during the Viet Nam War). It was a place where only the "privileged" boys (insert "rich") -- could go, to avoid getting their fingernails dirty, their hair mussed up, or their ass shot off. Since the ordinary boys were sent, against their will, to filthy jungles full of well-armed "gooks" -- & many thousands of them never came home. Or not in one piece. Right then, Georgie Bush was AWOL from his cushy Nat'l Guard post. Yep, it was too hard to expect him to show up once a month & sit in a hall for half an hour. He just wanted to be back on the Bush family Ranch, watching his dog Barney, chasing an armadillo. Honestly, it is the best choice for him. Imagine him with a gun. And for that matter, imagine Cheney with a gun. Remember Cheney shooting a "pal" of his (in the face) while they were "hunting?" That must have been his first "bulls-eye" in many years.

    Maybe some day, somebody will tell Cheney & Bush that IRAQ is not the country we were supposed to bomb. The guys who toppled the Twin Towers were from Yemen, (or ?) And Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with Al Quaeda, & had never threatened us or attacked us. So we bankrupted the USA & killed thousands of our soldiers, & caused a Middle East crisis, & this led to ISIS -- because Bush & Cheney were total idiots when it comes to simple geography, or even telling the truth.

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    eternal flame Wrote:

    Thanks for your feedback. Yes, a lot of dreaming goes along with solutions to war. Nowadays, the world is so corrupt and bitter, that most things are met with skepticism, to say the least. Even a saint would get spat upon & heckled, and in the old days, they burnt "Joan of Arc" at the stake, for trying to help her king win the war. From what I can gather, the story of Joan of Arc was a TRUE STORY. But I don't know for sure..... No matter what we do, or try to do, seems to only make things worse. The Middle East is such a Hell Hole, it does not seem to have any solution, & as long as we keep pretending we can FIND the solution, we are just digging our own grave, faster and deeper. The expense of warfare is enough to destroy our Economy, if we keep this up, --- waging war with several nations, while our govt is going bankrupt due to Republican greed.

    And if you realize our GOP leaders, have been in bed with Soviet Communists for 2 generations or more, at least since 1960, when the John Birch Society let Fred C. Koch (father of the Koch Bros) -- who lived in Soviet Russia, learning all of the OIL business, & then came back to Wichita, KS to increase his wealth all over the USA, & used the Birch apparatus of many radio stations, & TV stations, & magazines, etc -- plus the pulpits of many churches, -- to spread many subversive communist ideas

    all over America, (prominently, they said "America was not supposed to be a DEMOCRACY" -- which is a TOTAL LIE) and from there they started spreading slander against our leaders, such as JFK, who they killed in 1963) -- & all of this was to takeover the US Government, & turn it into a Fascist Communist Dictatorship, where they "rig" our elections, where they are out-sourcing all our industry to other nations, so OUR people have no jobs, but the wealthy GOP corporate CEO's are making out like "bandits" -- (which they are). The Koch brothers are actual Communists (their father raised them in Russia) & they are doing anything they can to destroy America (including waging useless wars, to bankrupt our economy & kill off all our young men who could defend us). The GOP have no compassion for the workers or middle class here, although they pretend to be "so Christian" all the time, with their phoney Falwell religions, which are based on Greed & Bullshit. I have spoken very recently about the Moral Majority, which robbed their donors & the IRS, and the U.S. Postal service all at the same time. It just shows you how far they will go, for MONEY, & POWER, & then tell the most hideous LIES to hypnotize their Flock.

    Recently, they put out the "Left Behind" series of "fictional" Novels, & they preach that to their congregations, so that quite a few of them actually believe, that when they get old, they do not actually die, but just float up to heaven on a pink cloud or a golden chariot, & live in glorious splendor in a castle (possibly Trump Tower) & drink champagne & eat caviar & float around in their swimming pool all day. At night, they drive in their chauffeur-driven limousines, with lots of wine & many harlots.

    But I think that the words "left behind" actually describes their success in grade school, about the time they should have been studying "science". The general wisdom of our GOP candidates is rather dismal, and makes me shudder to think what could happen if any of them gains control of our Congress. George Bush as an example. He was drunk or on dope most of the time he was supposed to be in the National Guard in Texas (during the Viet Nam War). It was a place where only the "privileged" boys (insert "rich") -- could go, to avoid getting their fingernails dirty, their hair mussed up, or their ass shot off. Since the ordinary boys were sent, against their will, to filthy jungles full of well-armed "gooks" -- & many thousands of them never came home. Or not in one piece. Right then, Georgie Bush was AWOL from his cushy Nat'l Guard post. Yep, it was too hard to expect him to show up once a month & sit in a hall for half an hour. He just wanted to be back on the Bush family Ranch, watching his dog Barney, chasing an armadillo. Honestly, it is the best choice for him. Imagine him with a gun. And for that matter, imagine Cheney with a gun. Remember Cheney shooting a "pal" of his (in the face) while they were "hunting?" That must have been his first "bulls-eye" in many years. Maybe some day, somebody will tell Cheney & Bush that IRAQ is not the country we were supposed to bomb. The guys who toppled the Twin Towers were from Yemen, or ? And Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with Al Quaeda, & had never threatened us or attacked us. So we bankrupted the USA & killed thousands of our soldiers, & caused a Middle East crisis, & this led to ISIS -- because Bush & Cheney were total idiots when it comes to simple geography, or even telling the truth. We only hope that this stupidity is confined to the lesser few of GOP leaders.

    Yes Eternal, I know your story; but right now ( read the piece Schmidt wrote about brain control which is an army program) I guess AMC was their first test rabbit. Read what Schmidt wrote; if it evolves and it gets into the wrong hands, it certainly will be able to manipulate voters as well the war craziness, which is even more dangerous than ISIS.