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A321 crash in Egypt/Siniai

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    Dutch -- I missed that one. What "idiot or idiots" are you referring to. Is it Obama and the Secretary of Defense when you say Pentagon? I couldn't find anything in the US news.

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    Dutch -- I missed that one. What "idiot or idiots" are you referring to. Is it Obama and the Secretary of Defense when you say Pentagon? I couldn't find anything in the US news.

    Schmidt; It are the idiots whoever they are who decided to sent Pentagon people there; I doubt because of their unlimited power that they asked Obama. Obama would probably have had no say because the Pentagon and its generals runs this country, or have you not noticed? This news was aired on CNN. I can understand if instead only the NTSB would be invited, because at least they have experience in that field but not together with nosy military idiots. It is a Russian registered plane; so if I was the Russians, I would make sure this would not take place.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Dutch -- I missed that one. What "idiot or idiots" are you referring to. Is it Obama and the Secretary of Defense when you say Pentagon? I couldn't find anything in the US news.

    Schmidt; It are the idiots whoever they are who decided to sent Pentagon people there; I doubt because of their unlimited power that they asked Obama. Obama would probably have had no say because the Pentagon and its generals runs this country, or have you not noticed? This news was aired on CNN. I can understand if instead only the NTSB would be invited, because at least they have experience in that field but not together with nosy military idiots. It is a Russian registered plane; so if I was the Russians, I would make sure this would not take place.

    CNN, November 10, 2015: Egypt: U.S. can join investigation of Russian plane crash

    Are these the "idiots"?

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    Dutch Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:

    Dutch -- I missed that one. What "idiot or idiots" are you referring to. Is it Obama and the Secretary of Defense when you say Pentagon? I couldn't find anything in the US news.

    Schmidt; It are the idiots whoever they are who decided to sent Pentagon people there; I doubt because of their unlimited power that they asked Obama. Obama would probably have had no say because the Pentagon and its generals runs this country, or have you not noticed? This news was aired on CNN. I can understand if instead only the NTSB would be invited, because at least they have experience in that field but not together with nosy military idiots. It is a Russian registered plane; so if I was the Russians, I would make sure this would not take place.

    CNN, November 10, 2015: Egypt: U.S. can join investigation of Russian plane crash

    Are these the "idiots"?

    Sorry that is a misleading story; it is too bad I could not record it but on CNN they clearly stated and even had that Pentagon relay woman tell her story that indeed the "military" or even CIA would go there. My feeling is that as usual, that they will sent a team which includes these guys under cover as being NTSB and have "badges" and identification as being NTSB. That's how they mostly work. It says Egypt approved that, but doubt that the Russians approve/like such; it is still their registered plane. The idiots are the Pentagon and the Egyptians.
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    Well sometimes ex-generals and people from the Bush administration appear on TV shows to provide their "expert advice". Some media people are so dumb they would not know the difference. I did a search of CNN's website and could not find the referenced statements being made. However, I will admit that "the idiots in this country want to sent Pentagon people to the crash site" is certainly a possibility. But just who are the idiots? Some right wing wackos that are given the podium? There a lot of those on TV lately...some on stage in the Republican debates. I'm pretty sure, though, that President Obama and the Secretary of Defense would not be doing this covertly or overtly without the approval of the Egyptian government.

    Now I would not be surprised if we have "informers" on the ground in Sharm el-Sheikh or at the crash site to help gather information...perhaps listen in on conversations in bars and such. That's not a big deal. Lots of Egyptians were on the ground gathering bodies and looking for evidence. They talk.

    Finally I will respectfully disagree that "the Pentagon and its generals run this country".

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Well sometimes ex-generals and people from the Bush administration appear on TV shows to provide their "expert advice". Some media people are so dumb they would not know the difference. I did a search of CNN's website and could not find the referenced statements being made. However, I will admit that "the idiots in this country want to sent Pentagon people to the crash site" is certainly a possibility. But just who are the idiots? Some right wing wackos that are given the podium? There a lot of those on TV lately...some on stage in the Republican debates. I'm pretty sure, though, that President Obama and the Secretary of Defense would not be doing this covertly or overtly without the approval of the Egyptian government.

    Now I would not be surprised if we have "informers" on the ground in Sharm el-Sheikh or at the crash site to help gather information...perhaps listen in on conversations in bars and such. That's not a big deal. Lots of Egyptians were on the ground gathering bodies and looking for evidence. They talk.

    Finally I will respectfully disagree that "the Pentagon and its generals run this country".

    Schmidt; your last line is contrary of P.R.s published subject (under the thread Veterans; Thank you 11-13-15 subject etc.) related to where all the "money" went for our wars; that shows exactly who is running this country without any oversight and always getting it their way including slush budgets. Please read that piece; that will wake you up.
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    Putin finally admitted that residue of a "bomb" was found on the plane. So up to the next phase; the Russians already offered an reward to catch the one's who did this. Also they will increase the bombing in Syria. Thus if I look at it Syria will become a huge waste land and their whole population will move into Europe. What a success !!