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US sending ground troops to Syria

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  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Yes the US is officially at war with a third country now. Congratulations! Did Syria ever attack us? I guess not. Right now there are more parties involved than I have socks. Iran, Russia, Saudia Arabia, Kurds, NATO, Israel, of course the US they can't stay behind. Wow . Why get yourself into a huge sinkhole; of course costing nothing; what is there to gain?

    Again as one reporter said the US world dominance is at stake; we want our noses into everything, bloody or not. Sorry Obama is a hostage of the generals and others and acting totally stupid lately ask China as well.

  • Center Left
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    What a mess ! I'll have to watch the news this afternoon. I'm cheering for the Kurds. We have no business there but many politicians must have stocks with companies that make war hardware. Go money.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Looking forward what do they want to gain? If I see what is happening there, why get involved at all? The problem is as always the 50 men or so makes no difference, thus in no time, as several reporters already said, it will escalate in more and more troops. This wasps nest will be our undoing; it is not our country; we have no business being there; they never attacked us.

    The Russians, Saudi's, Iranians, as well as all the fighting parties, will welcome us with open arms; do you believe that?

    I've never in my life seen such a stupid foreign policy; also let's irritate the Chinese as well who now threatened with war if we continue with or arrogance thinking that we control any sea as well and dictate who can use it. Wow. ridiculous.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    NATO says Russia has ulterior motive with aircraft and aircraft defensive/offensive weapons that have apparently nothing to do with ISIS.
  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: NATO says Russia has ulterior motive with aircraft and aircraft defensive/offensive weapons that have apparently nothing to do with ISIS.
    Chet, what happened to you; if I look at that picture of you, was that taken in 1700?
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: NATO says Russia has ulterior motive with aircraft and aircraft defensive/offensive weapons that have apparently nothing to do with ISIS.
    Chet, what happened to you; if I look at that picture of you, was that taken in 1700?
    Almost, that was 1978 Teamsters Strike. We were the swat team from UMWA Local 1784. District sent us to Cleveland in support of Teamsters.
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    I just don't get it. I know Prez Obama has always done his BEST to keep us out of war, & lacking that, to get us back out of the quagmire as soon as possible. I know this has got to be hurting Obama as much as anybody. What a travesty it is, after all we went through for the last 8 years, trying to END useless WARS, trying to balance the Budget, and trying to stop Climate Change and Global Warming from killing off the whole Human Population. At every turn, Obama has had to face fierce antagonism from the right wing. It is like fighting an 85 foot python, underwater, with its skin covered in axle grease, & it has just eaten 30 lb of Vitamin Pills. The GOP war machine is slippery, slimey, & has truly an unending appetite for slaughter.

    Since I am sure the GOP are still practicing their old techniques, to avoid any dangers of warfare (to themselves) -- then they will never volunteer (or enlist) --- and only a few guys with few choices of employment would be forced to do that -- so once again, the Democrats will be forced to do all the "fighting" and "dying" for their country --- while the wealthy GOP, who get all the monetary gain (from oil wells, etc) ---- will be sipping mint juleps on Miami Beach, & getting a good sun tan.

    So, WHY don't we just practice a few techniques, learned from the Viet Nam era? (1) multiple protest gatherings (2) sending protest letters to all the newspapers & Congress (3) refusal to sign up for the military, in any offshore assignment (4) set up "safe" places where anti-war protestors can camp out, support each other, study survival techniques (5) look into the option of going to Canada, if they will accept us (6) get a long wig and dress like a woman. (be sure to shave your beard daily).

    Recite a few slogans like: "Hell NO, -- We Won't GO!" --- and --- "PEACE is our Profession" (from SAC -- the Air Force).

    Remind our hawkish GOP that "JESUS was the "Prince of Peace" ---& therefore it is "unChristian" to get into WAR-fare.

    Remember the bombing of IRAQ (2003) & how did THAT work out? A total disaster for the entire Middle East, & all the innocent population of IRAQ, (who never threatened us or attacked us), but BUSH Lied -- & said they had weapons of mass destruction --- (totally FALSE) --- but since when can we expect any "honesty" from the GOP? (So far -- NEVER).

    Now cling onto this one idea: ----- "What if they held another War, --- and --- Nobody came?" (Think about it : )

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    eternal flame Wrote:

    I just don't get it. I know Prez Obama has always done his BEST to keep us out of war, & lacking that, to get us back out of the quagmire as soon as possible. I know this has got to be hurting Obama as much as anybody. What a travesty it is, after all we went through for the last 8 years, trying to END useless WARS, trying to balance the Budget, and trying to stop Climate Change and Global Warming from killing off the whole Human Population. At every turn, Obama has had to face fierce antagonism from the right wing. It is like fighting an 85 foot python, underwater, with its skin covered in axle grease, & it has just eaten 30 lb of Vitamin Pills. The GOP war machine is slippery, slimey, & has truly an unending appetite for slaughter.

    Since I am sure the GOP are still practicing their old techniques, to avoid any dangers of warfare (to themselves) -- then they will never volunteer (or enlist) --- and only a few guys with few choices of employment would be forced to do that -- so once again, the Democrats will be forced to do all the "fighting" and "dying" for their country --- while the wealthy GOP, who get all the monetary gain (from oil wells, etc) ---- will be sipping mint juleps on Miami Beach, & getting a good sun tan.

    So, WHY don't we just practice a few techniques, learned from the Viet Nam era? (1) multiple protest gatherings (2) sending protest letters to all the newspapers & Congress (3) refusal to sign up for the military, in any offshore assignment (4) set up "safe" places where anti-war protestors can camp out, support each other, study survival techniques (5) look into the option of going to Canada, if they will accept us (6) get a long wig and dress like a woman. (be sure to shave your beard daily).

    Recite a few slogans like: "Hell NO, -- We Won't GO!" --- and --- "PEACE is our Profession" (from SAC -- the Air Force).

    Remind our hawkish GOP that "JESUS was the "Prince of Peace" ---& therefore it is "unChristian" to get into WAR-fare.

    Remember the bombing of IRAQ (2003) & how did THAT work out? A total disaster for the entire Middle East, & all the innocent population of IRAQ, (who never threatened us or attacked us), but BUSH Lied -- & said they had weapons of mass destruction --- (totally FALSE) --- but since when can we expect any "honesty" from the GOP? (So far -- NEVER).

    Now cling onto this one idea: ----- "What if they held another War, --- and --- Nobody came?" (Think about it : )

    Eternal , I think we live in different times than the Vietnam period; nowadays because of all the gun nuts, media and evangelical nut heads as well power houses like the Pentagon, CIA, NSA as well 999 generals and the NRA; it is just about impossible to get the same demonstrations as with Vietnam. Don't forget with Vietnam you had the "draft" so plenty of people did not want that job; nowadays it is promoted as an "hero's" job for gun and killing lovers. The funny thing is that the "Jesus" freaks likely are the biggest warmongers with loads of guns; on the Dutch documentary "guns" and "god" are tied together in the US; even an company in Kentucky makes special guns for the evangelicals with bible texts engraved into the gun.

    Thus my answer is ; no Eternal you won't get the present people here to demonstrate like with Vietnam; may be a few which may then get ridiculed. Look at this documentary made for Dutch TV

    npo.nl/dit-is-de-dag/31-10-2015/VPWON_1...