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How Did 38 House Members Hijack Our Democracy?

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    The House Freedom Caucus is one of the most unique political caucuses in our lifetimes. It wields an extraordinary amount of power for being such a tiny fraction of overall House members and they are not afraid to use it.

    If you are confused how 38 members of a body of 435 can hijack democracy then you are not alone, but it's actually pretty simple. There are 247 Republican members in the House and 218 votes are needed to pass any piece of legislation. If this so called Freedom Caucus bands together and says they disagree with a piece of legislation then the Republican House will need Democratic members to cross the aisle and vote on whatever bill they are trying to pass. And, as most of you know, the bills the House are trying to pass are hardly pieces of legislation that Democrats will rally behind.

    So 38 members now basically control the House of Representatives. They eventually got Speaker Boehner to throw his hands up in the air and quit and they will be a thorn in the side of Paul Ryan when he is elected as the next Speaker.

    Very few things will get passed (other than Obamacare repeals and Planned Parenthood defunding) without their approval because they can always threaten to "vacate the chair" (which is the term for forcing a vote to remove the Speaker at any time). They don't really seem to care that they have hijacked our democracy to force the rest of us to bend to their draconian demands. To them it's their way or the highway. Just like the framers of our Constitution intended...

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    The link below has a list of the Freedom Caucus members compliments of the Pew Research Center. As Pew Research notes,

    "Unlike the plethora of caucuses and committees – which range from the Ad Hoc Congressional Committee for Irish Affairs to the House GOP Study Group – the Freedom Caucus does not officially disclose who belongs to it (aside from its nine founding members), though various unofficial lists have circulated. Membership is by invitation only, and meetings are not public."

    Pew Research: What is the House Freedom Caucus, and who’s in it?

    The list has 36 members versus Jared's 38. Two members, Tom McClintock of California and Reid Ribble of Wisconsin, recently quit the caucus. The members' names should be noted, and at the next election their tactics should be an issue for debate by the public.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Are you surprised? Read some of Eternal's memo's she's already said that the Birchers will push till they get it their way beyond a Freedom cause club.

    Seven? of the GOP candidates ( including Carson) had last Sunday a closed door meeting to determine if they were "holy" enough, thus they want more than just a fake Freedom caucus as objective. I'm amazed at this Carson guy; he must be the biggest hypocrite of all times; surgeons should know better that brains or its contents does not travel to outer space after death.

  • Independent
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    Since since I live in ohio but not his district I just e-mailed Jim Jordan telling him what a disgrace he and the freedom caucus are.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: The list has 36 members versus Jared's 38. Two members, Tom McClintock of California and Reid Ribble of Wisconsin, recently quit the caucus. The members' names should be noted, and at the next election their tactics should be an issue for debate by the public.

    Thanks Schmidt. I am not sure which list is right, but the list I was basing my number off of was the Freedom Caucus page on Wikipedia that listed all members as of October 2015.

    Regardless of the true number, I agree that there should be zero doubt about who is a current member and they should have to officially disclose who their members are.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yeah, Ted Poe and Brian Babin, both of Texas, make up the full 38. They are not listed in the Pew Research report. The only one from my home state of Colorado is Ken Buck. That guy is extreme right.