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Remembering 9/11

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  • Independent
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    Today 14 years later 9/11 is remembered. The worst part of it is we've not learned anything from it. We are now engaged in more wars than ever. Our policies of bombing, droning everything we don't like has created many more terrorists than ever, seeking revenge. The only thing what has improved is our at home "protection" which costs us dearly (half the airline ticket cost is TSA etc.) Eventually we may get an other 9/11 event, we are asking for it. Lets bribe some more leaders, sell some more weapons to the wrong parties and try to steal their resources and let the population starve. Since 9/11 we lost trillions on our wars as well thousands of our soldiers just to catch a small terorist group in Afghanistan, Wow, which has now expanded in a huge way throughout the middle east etc. As well created millions of refugee's; all due to our totally wrong reaction on 9/11. We should have gone only after the culprits; not invaded countries.

    Great job, congratulations America.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The sad truth of the matter is that we reacted exactly the way Osama Bin Laden was hoping for. He knew flying a few planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon wouldn't bring us to our knees, but hoped that we would overreact so much that we would eventually bring ourselves down on our own.

    We should have thought long and hard after 9/11 about how to react, but we decided to invade a country that did nothing to us and wound up ushering in over a decade of endless war in the most tumultuous region on the planet...spending trillions of dollars in the process.

    9/11 was a terrible tragedy and instead of responding in a way that shows the world we are a sober minded world power that will respond to acts of war appropriately, we did exactly what Osama Bin Laden thought we'd do.

  • Independent
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    Yes, if you look at the whole picture,I can not understand that some idiots invite a Cheney on TV, while he should be in jail for life..
  • Liberal
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    Well....I gotta be honest. I didn't get all mushy when the towers got hit. Shit happens everyday.

    I remember the tsunami in malaysia killing 300,000 people in an instant. That was a serious tragedy....not much from our citizenry on that one.....we get all mushy while MR BRUCIE.....yes...a man....puts fake tits and and g-string on and everybody here afraid to call it exactly what it is.....SICKENING.

  • Liberal
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    Well....I gotta be honest. I didn't get all mushy when the towers got hit. Shit happens everyday.

    I remember the tsunami in malaysia killing 300,000 people in an instant. That was a serious tragedy....not much from our citizenry on that one.....we get all mushy while MR BRUCIE.....yes...a man....puts fake tits and and g-string on and everybody here afraid to call it exactly what it is.....SICKENING.

  • Liberal
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    Calm down Mr LA and take your meds! Wink
  • Liberal
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    pr Wrote: Calm down Mr LA and take your meds! Wink
    You guys are still funny as ever....lol
  • Liberal
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    Hey, Jose everyone loves you, especially the gay Mexicans ;)
  • Independent
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    pr Wrote: Hey, Jose everyone loves you, especially the gay Mexicans ;)
    May be the fat lady in Kentucky can type up a marriage license and convert them to singing evangelicals. She adores the "gay" long dead Mexican Jesus guy.
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    911 attack was a just a sub plan from a main secret deal.

    The main deal was made by the Feds (FBI and DEA) and Chinese secret police. China created a drug smuggling case, the payment were: the hosting of 2008 Summer Olympic Game and the membership of WTO.

    Pentagon created an incident for the Feds to justify the huge payment to the China (which at last pushed China becoming the No.2 of world economic power). That was EP-3 spy plane's incident. As a payback, the D.O.J.(The Feds) created 911 attack for the D.O.D..

    A secret deal between the Feds (FBI and DEA) and Chinese secret police in 2001.

    4/1/2001 EP-3 collided with a Chinese military jet and landed in Hainan Island, China.
    O.O.D. created EP-3 spy plane event for the D.O.J..

    4/11 The crew of EP-3 was released. Skolnick wrote article, " Red Chinese get big bucks in Secret hostage deals " D.O.J. got the drug smuggling case from Chinese secret police.

    4/26/2001 Silverstein was given the lease of WTC.

    5/11 original planed execution date of Timothy McVeigh. It was used to distract the case of killing of Kat H.Sung. Anyhow, I didn't mail the drive license renewal letter. So the Feds delayed the execution of McVeigh.

    6/11 McVeigh executed. My drive license expired on 5/25. Knowing I wouldn't renew my drive license, the Feds had to finish their plot. The planned drug case didn't break off. Former FBI director Louis Freeh resigned to take the responsibility.

    7/13 China got the host of 2008 Summer Olympic. Payment to China for the secret deal.

    9/11 WTC collapsed. A payback from D.O.J. to Pentagon. (for starting war in Mid-east) Atta's drive license was used as evidence.


    9/17 China got the membership of WTO. Payment to China for the secret deal.

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    Typical Chinese secret deal

    The Feds used to make a secret deal with a hostile country to frame a case. The advantage is nobody can investigate the case in a hostile country. People also tend to believe the framed case, rarely they will think of that a hostile country would cooperate with the US intelligence.

    In my case, the Feds used to bribe N. Korea. N. Korea is small and weak country, the payment it demanded is less expensive than the China. See #879 to #883.

    The typical Chinese one is much bigger.

    That was EP-3 spy plane hostage case took place in early April 2001. I then found an article in internet.

    [quote] Red Chinese get big bucks in Secret hostage deals
    By Sherman H. Skolnick 04/11/01
    skolnicksreport.com/rcshdeals.html

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    “A top official of the US Drug Enforcement Administration, DEA, as a signatory and guarantor binding as well on successors in office, assures that that Agency will use their best efforts and most merited personnel to prevent any publicity in the mass media news outlets, of any problem, of any problems to be publicly discussed, as to “China White? the high-purity dope from Southwest China funneling into the U.S. principally through Chicago and the monetary proceeds of which are to be credited to payback the loans from First National Bank of Chicago now called Bank One. …… A top official of FBI Counter-Intelligence Division, in supervision of overseas offices, likewise is a guarantor and signatory to these embargo provisions?

    ………”

    Though the article was vague and confuse as a cover up misinformation, I still extract some information from this passage.

    It was a secret deal between US intelligence and Chinese secret police. The signatory and guarantor are agents of DEA and FBI.

    Chinese secret police was to provide a smuggling case of Heroin “China White?so they need a news censorship for the reputation of China.

    So said mainstream media is under control of the Feds. They can guarantee what news be released or not.

  • Independent
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    I guess you've seen way too many "star wars" movies; stay of the "weed"
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    885. Huge payment to China and internet harassment (2/28/2015)

    On April 1, 2001, an US EP-3 spy plane collided with a Chinese fighter jet and landed in Hainan Island. 24 crew members were released on April 11, 2001.

    On same day, Mr. Sherman H. Skolnick wrote an article "RED CHINESE GET BIG BUCKS IN SECRET HOSTAGE DEALS". He revealed a huge ransom has been paid to China by the US.

    [quote] RED CHINESE GET BIG BUCKS IN SECRET HOSTAGE DEALS
    by Sherman H. Skolnick 04/11/01

    The Red Chinese are to get massive funds and terms in the secret deals brokered by Federal Reserve Commissar Alan Greenspan. ......

    ===For use by the Beijing government, the Federal Reserve agreed to transfer to a neutral designated country, as a neutral depository or escrow agent, 40 Billion dollars in U.S. credits, assets, gold bullion, and currencies, both U.S. and foreign. Title of this is to be conveyed to mainland China sovereignty upon the safe release of the U.S. hostages.

    ..............

    Obviously S.SKOLNICK was an insider of the intelligence so he could quickly access to the internal information. Of course he could not release the truth of the deal and had to pack it with a lot of unrelated material and cover up information to confuse the outsiders. It took me years to find the truth. Skolnick was dead five years later in 2006. I think he was murdered for that article even though he was an insider. This article now was not available in Internet as it was in earlier years. I was lucky to save it in my memory.

    Three days ago, when I wrote #884 to quote the content of that article, the window became blank and the USB lost its function. The agent who monitor on my computer disabled it. I had to use another computer (not accessed to internet) to unload the USB, then copy it word by word. When I wrote this article(#885), the window system is harassed again and I have to re-write it in notebook. It only proves my analysis on Skolnick's article is very correct, the Feds are afraid of it.

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    886. The real payment is to be member of WTO (3/7/2015)

    At first, I was puzzled at Skolnick’s quotation of payment - 40 Billion dollars in U.S. credits, assets, gold bullion, and currencies, both U.S. and foreign. It was more like a looting list of how the FBI and DEA rob people then a payment in secret deal. It was until several years later when the economy of China had a big leap forward. When the news reported its GDP passed over German, then passed over Japan? Now becomes the second economic power of the world.I realized the real payment China demanded in that deal was to be the host of 2008 Olympic Game and the membership of the WTO.

    [quote] RED CHINESE GET BIG BUCKS IN SECRET HOSTAGE DEALS
    by Sherman H. Skolnick 04/11/01

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    . That this embargo on data and press releases and public statements is to continue at least until one year after the expected Red China hosting of the International Olympics.
    ?.

    The principal financial terms of the hostage release are not to be publicized for at least until after Red China successfully arranges hosting the International Olympics…… according to European and non-European intelligence sources.

    The penetration of the super-secret hostage settlements was aided by intelligence operatives with a background from France, Portugal, and Spain.


    I was also puzzled by this statement in article for some time. EP-3 spyplane case was a sheer business between China and US. Why other intelligence were involved? Now I know, to complete Chinese demand, US needed votes in Olympic Game Commission as well in organization of WTO.

    Probably for this reason, Skolnick wrote this article. They could not seal the black box because too many countries joined the case. We outsiders thus know there was a secret deal.

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    87. Interest exchange(3/11/2015)

    When I first read Skolnick’s article, two things were very evident for me.
    1. The prominent role of US side was D.O.J. (FBI and DEA were the signatory and guarantor of the deal) not D.O.D., although the hostage was the crew of spy plane.
    2. The core thing was around a drug case - smuggling of China White to United States. Why D.O.D. made such a big sacrifice? Chinese dismantled that EP-3 spy plane to get all the secret of it. The later development proved there was an interest exchange between D.O.D. and D.O.J..

    4/1/2001 to 4/11, EP-3 spy plane crashed with Chinese fighter jet, landed in Hainan Island. The crew members were released ten days later under a secret deal. Pentagon created a platform for D.O.J. to pay China to frame a drug case for it.

    4/26/2001, Silverstein was given the lease of WTC.

    [quote] Ownership, Control, and Insurance of The World Trade Center

    On April 26 of 2001 the Board of Commissioners for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey awarded Silverstein Properties and mall-owner Westfield America a 99-year-lease on the following assets: The Twin Towers, World Trade Center Buildings 4 and 5, two 9-story office buildings, and 400,000 square feet of retail space.

    911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/own...

    D.O.J. created a platform for Pentagon to get a “terror attack?it needed. FBI controls domestic security so it also controls the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

    D.O.D. got the war it wanted and D.O.J. got a drug case it wanted. Four months later we saw 911 bombing.

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    888. The first payment for the drug case (3/18/2015)

    It took two months (4/11 to 6/11) for the Feds and Chinese secret police to arrange a drug case ?to smuggle heroine from south west China to US.

    6/9/2001 I received warnings from the Feds.

    [quote] Author:FBI

    nytimes.com/2001/07/14/sports/olympics-...

    Eight years after a narrow and unexpected defeat to Sydney, Australia, inits attempt to be host to the 2000 Olympics, Beijing more than doubled the votes Toronto received as the runner-up.

    MOSCOW, July 13?…… the International Olympic Committee awarded the 2008 Summer Games to Beijing today.

    By JERE LONGMAN July 14, 2001

    [quote] OLYMPICS; Beijing Wins Bid for 2008 Olympic Games


    Next month, the big winner, China, got its first payment.

    nytimes.com/2001/05/02/us/director-of-f...

    WASHINGTON, May 1?Director Louis J. Freeh of the F.B.I. said today that hewould resign in June after an eight-year tenure

    By DAVID JOHNSTON May 2, 2001

    [quote] DIRECTOR OF F.B.I. SAYS HE'LL RESIGN AFTER EIGHT YEARS

    For something unknown, the designated drug case hadn’t broken up. The Chinese secret police must have completed their duty of the secret deal. The US had to pay for it. That’s a big loss of US international interest. Someone had to take the responsibility. FBI director Louis Freeh had to resign from his post in June, 2001 when the Feds planned drug case ended.

    6/11/2001 The day of Timothy McVeigh's execution. He was accused for Oklahoma bombing. Since then I learned the feds used to create a big event to distract public’s attention from a smallcase ?the murder of Kat Sung.

    Message:Kat Hak Sung! Your time is up! We are giving you 3x24 hours to surrender. Turn yourself in to the local authority where you are residing now.You have been sentenced to DEATH in absentia. ..... Within 3x24 hours you should surrender and turn yourself in, to serve your death sentence under the gallows. The state of California has restored this kind of death sentence just for you. ....

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    Subject:Your Time Is UP, Kat Hak Sung !Sat, Jun 9 2001 at 8:25 am[
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