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it's time to put John McCain out to pasture

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  • Center Left Democrat
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    Flagstaff, AZ
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    On occasion, I actually find myself agreeing with the senior Senator from Arizona, but the vast majority of the time, I've come to recognize that it's long past time for him to retire or get pushed out of office, especially if he is replaced in the Senate by a Democrat.

    The most recent example is his position on the Iran treaty. Although a number of opinion articles pop up when you type in either "Iran" or "Iran treaty" into the search box at the top of this site, I was not able to find any prior discussion threads, so thought that I would start one.

    The link below will provide more information of McCain's opposition to the deal:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/john-mccain-unmoved-by-president-obamas-iran-pitch/article/2562483

    The more rational approach is the one that appeared in the New York Times this morning:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/opinion/the-high-price-of-rejecting-the-iran-deal.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=0

    Although there are a wide variety of reasons to support the treaty, Jacob Lew (our Secretary of the Treasury) argues for it largely on economic terms.

    McCain, like many Republicans, is opposed to just about anything that's proposed by Barack Obama, Unfortunately, he became chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee earlier this year, which gives him more clout than he should have on this issue due to the fact the the Armed Services Committee is considered to be one of the most powerful committees in the Senate.

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    When McCain first was elected his voice was heard distinctly and independent of the flock. Unfortunately now , he, has joined the choir with talking points and obstruction techniques. Case in point: One of the last times he spoke up as a single voice was when he defended O'bama in the campaign. How often has that been played? Many fear to challenge him because of his POW status and and his now long tenure in office. I, too think Arizona needs to bring forth a Democratic challenger.

    Mary.

  • Center Left Democrat
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    Flagstaff, AZ
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    Mary:

    Like his father and grandfather, McCain had a distinguished career in the Navy.

    Both his dad and grandfather eventually became 4 star admirals, and John acquired a lot of "street cred" due to the fact that he was a prisoner of war for 6 years in Hanoi during the Vietnam War.

    Not everyone who has served in the military, though, agree with McCain's hawkish positions.

    36 retired U.S. Generals recently wrote a letter to the Washington Post supporting the Iran treaty deal.

    http://www.occupydemocrats.com/36-retired-u-s-generals-reject-gops-call-for-war-heap-praise-on-iran-deal/

    Their letter, and the agreement itself, are far more rational than what many Republicans (including McCain) propose.

    Few people, though, are as nutty as Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, who said this about the treaty:

    Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee called the Iran deal “idiotic,” and likened it to events of the Holocaust, saying that President Obama will ultimately “take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven.”

    But the truly crazy person in the Senate, Ted Cruz (also a Presidential candidate) , is of the opinion that the treaty deal "will lead to the murder of millions of Americans by radical theocratic zealots":

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ted-cruz-iran-deal-doomsday-120415.html

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Guy, yes. This guy actually belongs in jail; he helped Bush kill hundreds of thousands civilians in Iraq, also ballooned our defense budget out of reality, because of his strong lobby friends in the war industry. He always, as a Vietnam war veteran wants a "world wide revenge" for his prison time, He needs a psychiatrist and certainly does not belong in any government position.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    When Trump spoke up about McCain I think he did that trying to let the war crimes confession McCain signed become a topic.