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If not NOW.....WHEN???

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    Oh please! She is one of the worst most opportunistic so called Democrates out there. We would be all better off without her.

    just because a politician doesn't have anything between her legs doesn't automatically make her a good politician! Remember, Sarah Palin, Bachmann, Fiorina, the list goes on and on. They are all just emasculated males. Next you'll be telling us Ben Carlson, Allen West and the rest of the black Republicans out there are good candidates because they are black!

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    Good Morning everyone, Great day for a debate huh. I have seen many choices for female candidates tossed around here. Some good, some bad and some horrible.My point is they deserve a shot at whatever seat they wish. We have allowed ever male candidate, good or bad to win or lose or just attempt to get elected.I ask my self why are you lamenting that we have a female candidate with the breadth and experience as Hillary when you have elected men with less experience? Wouldn't we have been better off if the same trepidation and lamenting occurred with George Bush? Why all of this for Hillary? Could her gender be the key? I will say it again at this time there is no candidate with the qualifications she personifies.

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    I don't support those me either!

    i fully expect and hope Hillary will win the election and if she does, I agree, she will be a good president because she is a woman. That, unfortunately, doesn't make her the best candidate!

    PS - whatever any politician has on the web page or bio is meaningless! If you want truth and facts you have to search long and hard for it.

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    Mary Kirby Wrote: I suppose you do know that a great portion of the Foundations and speaking fees are donated to charity? Before they left office they racked up millions of dollars in legal fees to defend themselves from the propaganda the right spewed against them. They prevailed but at an extreme cost. So what you are telling me is you don't trust her because the money she has made makes her untrustworthy? We are a commerce driven world. I for one want someone who has mastered the ebb and flow of money. She will not put us in danger like the Republican Administration did. If she was not well connected do you really think she could win against the money machine on the right? Think about it. Don't you see an advantage for once on our side? Like I said she has my vote. If not NOW....When??
    Sorry to be a bit late on my reply; I stick to what I wrote; she is a Washington insider and knows the game, but due to being the wife of Bill, she rides the "high" horse and has become arrogant, which may become her downfall if President. The clan around her will use her "women" weakness to take advantage of her. Regardless of "charity's" she's not gotten any poorer either, so don't worry about that. Looking at P.R. last statement, I fully agree as I also said in some other threads that none of the present "bunch" have the qualifications for lifting up this country; all of them are there alone for an "ego" trip. As P.R. said Bernie is the only one who has a bit of integrity but not the experience on how Washington manipulates anyone who gets elected.
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    Some very interesting comments in this essay on Hillary vs Bernie

    salon.com/2015/08/06/bernie_sanders_is_...

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    As you have pointed out, Hillary, just because she was Bill's wife, has gotten on the high horse! How preposterous! She has and will be her own person. There were calls for her to leave Bill from one corner of this country to the other. Instead she carried on her duties as first lady with dignity hiding her anger, tears, hurt and pain. She has been a lawyer, a first lady of Arkansas, a first lady of the nation, a New York State Senator, and Secretary of State. Name one male or female who has achieved as much in a lifetime. Along with all of this, she has been a daughter, wife, mother and grandmother. No she is not perfect NO ONE IS! When you give me Bernie, a good man, but even he has his faults. This is Hillary's moment and we can either accept it, ignite the fire in our belly, and get her elected or cry and moan she is not the best. You really think that president Obama would have made her Secretary of State if he did not trust her? You see the choice is really with each one of us but I choose to back her, ignite the fire in my belly for the hard fight ahead and not cry and lament at her inadequacy. On that November night in 2016 I will kick back,drink a glass of wine, acknowledge I did my best to get her and like minded Democrats elected to further this country on in the right direction. I for one will not sit back and lament and moan. What good does it do? Again, God is not running. The perfect candidate does not exist but there are some better than others. They have to KNOW the basics to win. She has been on the winning side of elections, knows the ropes, takes the punches and still gets up. It is her time. If not NOW....When??

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    Very interesting. Like I said Bernie has his faults also. Thank you for showing me this.
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    Mary Kirby Wrote: I suppose you do know that a great portion of the Foundations and speaking fees are donated to charity? Before they left office they racked up millions of dollars in legal fees to defend themselves from the propaganda the right spewed against them. They prevailed but at an extreme cost. So what you are telling me is you don't trust her because the money she has made makes her untrustworthy? We are a commerce driven world. I for one want someone who has mastered the ebb and flow of money. She will not put us in danger like the Republican Administration did. If she was not well connected do you really think she could win against the money machine on the right? Think about it. Don't you see an advantage for once on our side? Like I said she has my vote. If not NOW....When??
    Sorry to be a bit late on my reply; I stick to what I wrote; she is a Washington insider and knows the game, but due to being the wife of Bill, she rides the "high" horse and has become arrogant, which may become her downfall if President. The clan around her will use her "women" weakness to take advantage of her. Regardless of "charity's" she's not gotten any poorer either, so don't worry about that. Looking at P.R. last statement, I fully agree as I also said in some other threads that none of the present "bunch" have the qualifications for lifting up this country; all of them are there alone for an "ego" trip. As P.R. said Bernie is the only one who has a bit of integrity but not the experience on how Washington manipulates anyone who gets elected.
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    So she has to become "poor" for her to get your vote. Her money to charity does not count??? She is definitely not a weak woman as I pointed out. Name one candidate with the education, qualifications, and life experience that she has demonstrated. Give me facts not propaganda.

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    Mary Kirby Wrote:

    So she has to become "poor" for her to get your vote. Her money to charity does not count??? She is definitely not a weak woman as I pointed out. Name one candidate with the education, qualifications, and life experience that she has demonstrated. Give me facts not propaganda.

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    Why does she wants to run in the first place, if she has got it all, according to you; is it pure "ego" ? If she is so fond of her family; do you think she has the time for it, once you are President? Sorry I never would want such job, everyone around her will be busy to chop her legs off, even in the middle of the night.
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    Apparently, nobody appears to care about qualifications, but talk about characterization of Hillary as demeaning and not up to par with Bernie. Let's compare foreign policy, which is a distinction for only a few in politics. The ones with NO foreign policy achievements are all of the Republican potentials, however, Bush did recently travel to some notable countries to show his foreign policy and Trump has business experience in foreign nations, but that does not count for foreign policy. I can't think of anybody on the Republican side that has working relationship with foreign policy in other nations around the world. Than we have Bernie, who appears to act so genuine as a people's choice, but he definitely has no Foreign Policy experience. Has Bernie even traveled outside of the United States? Maybe he has served as a chair in some committee, but I can't locate any significant media report on Bernie having shown foreign policy experience.

    As for Hillary, she has hob-knobbed, shook hands, greeted, and discussed foreign relations with all world leaders and with most smaller nations. Hillary has discussed the world's issues with these leaders and has maintained U.S. sovereignty during those relations. At the moment, on foreign policy there's nobody in the heat of competition for Presidency that comes close to Hillary's accomplishment. Maintaining America's role in the world is an extremely important qualification for the Presidential Office. What makes Hillary so much more significant is that she's a woman and that brings the strengths, views and compassion that past Presidents have been unable to provide during the last century. Sure we have had great presidents, but they all have shown some disturbing male facts that maybe a woman could have had a better tactful approach.

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    Bravo I couldn't have said it better my self.

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    Mary Kirby Wrote:

    Bravo I couldn't have said it better my self.

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    I could not have said it any worse; maintaining America's role in the world is according to AMC:, dictating the world the way we want it, as well loving wars, uniforms, dead soldiers, wasted bribe money all over the place, billions lost, as well trillions spent on useless war equipment, helping to expand our Hitler mentality; do you want Hillary to be Eva Braun in sheep's clothes?
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    As we have been responding.................all those messy things in the world that the previous response had so indicated what's wrong with America in the world.............well.......thank the men we all put in office. Yes, thank the men for all those things you so hate about America. What has been the original theme of this thread is a woman may make the difference in how we respond to the world. Upon Hillary being chosen (I hope) for the office, she will not be the first woman to make her stand in the world. That claim belongs to the IRON LADY of England, Ms. Margaret Thatcher. Maybe Hillary can be the next IRON LADY and be knighted as from the United States.

    Yes, thank all those men you all put in office, however, I'm, afraid to be part of that heritage. Women stand up and put yourself in history.

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    Anyone just see Hillary and Bernie on Rev Al's tonight? He makes Hillary look like a fool. She refuses to take a stand on anything until she figures out which way the wind is blowing. Bob Dylan was right!