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Another day, another mass shooting

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  • Center Left
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    Too damned often we are advised that a mass killing has occurred. Rarely is it that a brick, a bucket, peanut butter, or lawn furniture is what was used. Hang in there, I think there may be a pattern. On the news (15 minutes ago) it was said that US population is 4.43 % of the worlds population. Pretty small. The amount of guns owned by Americans ? 42%. Americans own 42% of the worlds guns in private hands. If the NRA knew they would be saying that with some effort we could get that up to 60%. Sad and scary. I did a Google search of who was committing our mass murders. I found it interesting.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/27/us/mass-shootings/

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map

    http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/06/19/mass-shooters-have-a-gender-and-a-race/#sthash.C2Nc0pzX.dpbs

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    Growing up, there was 1 mass killing every 20 or 30 years. It's gender based as well. Women aren't the killers. Almost entirely males doing the killings.

    Thoughts, comments, solutions ????

  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote:

    Too damned often we are advised that a mass killing has occurred. Rarely is it that a brick, a bucket, peanut butter, or lawn furniture is what was used. Hang in there, I think there may be a pattern. On the news (15 minutes ago) it was said that US population is 4.43 % of the worlds population. Pretty small. The amount of guns owned by Americans ? 42%. Americans own 42% of the worlds guns in private hands. If the NRA knew they would be saying that with some effort we could get that up to 60%. Sad and scary. I did a Google search of who was committing our mass murders. I found it interesting.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/27/us/mass-shootings/

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map

    http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/06/19/mass-shooters-have-a-gender-and-a-race/#sthash.C2Nc0pzX.dpbs

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    Growing up, there was 1 mass killing every 20 or 30 years. It's gender based as well. Women aren't the killers. Almost entirely males doing the killings.

    Thoughts, comments, solutions ????

    Tony , ask the NRA and Bobby Jindal.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    There was also another mass killing in Oklahoma, yesterday 5 members of a family were Stabbed to death by the two sons, killed were their parents, siblings, aged 5,7,12, the 13 year old is the hospital, I say lets ban all knives capable of delivering multiple stab wounds, the amount of guns owned by US citizens pales in comparison to knives,
  • Liberal
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    Yes, let's just let every nitwit in the country own as many guns as they can beg borrow or steal. It's their right (so the NRA loves to tell them). After all, a country can't be truly safe unless we have a citizenry armed to the teeth with the biggest, baddest concealed weapons money can buy. Bad people with guns? Not to worry, all dem good guys with guns will take 'em down before they can say "stick 'em up"!
  • Democrat
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    pr Wrote: Yes, let's just let every nitwit in the country own as many guns as they can beg borrow or steal. It's their right (so the NRA loves to tell them). After all, a country can't be truly safe unless we have a citizenry armed to the teeth with the biggest, baddest concealed weapons money can buy. Bad people with guns? Not to worry, all dem good guys with guns will take 'em down before they can say "stick 'em up"!
    I agree , let every nitwit own a knife, or a club, or rope, even an axe, these are all objects, plus many more, that have been used in murders. So if it's nitwits doing the crime, you must then agree that it's the person wielding the instrument of crime that is accountable for the crime and not the weapon.
  • Independent
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    johnnycee Wrote: There was also another mass killing in Oklahoma, yesterday 5 members of a family were Stabbed to death by the two sons, killed were their parents, siblings, aged 5,7,12, the 13 year old is the hospital, I say lets ban all knives capable of delivering multiple stab wounds, the amount of guns owned by US citizens pales in comparison to knives,
    A typical "gun" owners answer. Lets also ban all cars because more people get killed with that "tool" than guns. Anyway the killing by guns and any other means will continue; why? because of the "mental" state in this country. People who do need help don't get it. look at for instance the VA disaster. Mental help here is often done away with "just take a pill" without real mental psychiatric treatment . Way too few specialists on the huge number of patients.
  • Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: There was also another mass killing in Oklahoma, yesterday 5 members of a family were Stabbed to death by the two sons, killed were their parents, siblings, aged 5,7,12, the 13 year old is the hospital, I say lets ban all knives capable of delivering multiple stab wounds, the amount of guns owned by US citizens pales in comparison to knives,
    A typical "gun" owners answer. Lets also ban all cars because more people get killed with that "tool" than guns. Anyway the killing by guns and any other means will continue; why? because of the "mental" state in this country. People who do need help don't get it. look at for instance the VA disaster. Mental help here is often done away with "just take a pill" without real mental psychiatric treatment . Way too few specialists on the huge number of patients.
    Now your talking Dutch, I don't know what a typical gun owners answer is but I guess your answer must be a typical anti- gun person's response.
  • Center Left
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    Knives can cut your steak, string, tape, etc. Cars have their practical uses but other than a paper weight, there's no need for for dozens of guns. I am not against gun ownership because I believe that if someone is breaking in at 2:00 am you should be able to protect yourself. However, persons who own 12 - 15 guns probably don't have a balanced view of the situation. 1 - 3 should be the household limit.

    While watching the news (Aljazeera) recently, they said that mass killings were done by (Officially) crazies 3.5% of the time. Many would think that crazies were 25 - 35% of all shootings. It was a different number than what I expected.

    Trying to find supporters, voters, people willing to take a poll....... Rick P. was on CNN today saying it's not less guns that we need, it's more guns. Rambling the NRA lines he said other gun owners (HEROES) could have stopped the Louisana shooting. One day there will be a shooting with Conceal carry members on site. I half expect that given the chance to do something good....... The citizen may accidentally shoot citizens standing near by. Time will tell.

  • Democrat
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    Guns are used primarily for hunting and for self defense, everything else is secondary, Hammers are used primarily for construction but they has been used as a weapon, as well any other item found in the house, do you think by removing the gun that the homicide will not occur, of course not, so the intent is to remove the gun and hope that the killer will not found any other means to which to kill you..
  • Independent
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    johnnycee Wrote: Guns are used primarily for hunting and for self defense, everything else is secondary, Hammers are used primarily for construction but they has been used as a weapon, as well any other item found in the house, do you think by removing the gun that the homicide will not occur, of course not, so the intent is to remove the gun and hope that the killer will not found any other means to which to kill you..

    I must admit that you are right; due to the fact people here get sillier by the day; sure then these people use any tool to get it their way or prison? or the nut house? So what should I do; buy a napalm bomb?

  • Democrat
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    Nah, that's just overkill, just buy yourself a handgun, go thru the background checks , go to a local range and familiarize yourself with it, after that your good to go.
  • Independent
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    johnnycee Wrote: Nah, that's just overkill, just buy yourself a handgun, go thru the background checks , go to a local range and familiarize yourself with it, after that your good to go.
    J.C. "good to go" to do what?
  • Democrat
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    To defend yourself and those close to you from those silly but oft times dangerous people.
  • Independent
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    johnnycee Wrote: To defend yourself and those close to you from those silly but oft times dangerous people.
    J.C. I'm 74 and never in my life around the world had to defend myself by using a gun. Only in Nigeria they shot at me but escaped. Thus you see a "boogy" man around every corner? I must agree with you that this world has not become any better, as well there are more nutheads around than ever. Guess why? My guess is the "greed" factor as well the poor stay poor and go on drugs etc. to soften their misery. Also in this country don't forget all the "war" mental damage; I met quite a few of them who just stare and are on lots of pills. So what do you expect. When I was young you did not need a gun. Times have changed but not for the better.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: There was also another mass killing in Oklahoma, yesterday 5 members of a family were Stabbed to death by the two sons, killed were their parents, siblings, aged 5,7,12, the 13 year old is the hospital, I say lets ban all knives capable of delivering multiple stab wounds, the amount of guns owned by US citizens pales in comparison to knives,
    We can always, and I mean ALWAYS, count on you to bring a red herring into any discussion about mass shootings.