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What does the Donald Trump candidacy tell us about America?

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    I have a hard time getting my head around why Donald Trump has a double digit lead in the Republican polls, and that the more he trashes the other candidates, or President Obama or John McCain, the higher his poll numbers go. Yet we must realize that he is tapping into a part of the base that is of the Republicans own making. For the last 6 1/2 years President Obama has been demeaned and ridiculed in every way possible by Fox News pundits, Rush Limbaugh, and members of Congress in a ruthless "everything goes" campaign of hate. Civility is not a part of their discourse.

    So Donald Trump comes to the forefront doing what other Republicans have been doing to Obama ever since he was elected president...trash talking. And Republicans are upset at his tactics? They should look in the mirror when they seem so shocked at Donald Trump. Republicans say Trump doesn't represent the party. I say they are wrong. He is the epitome of the party trash talkers that have had the bully pulpit for the last six years. Call it entertainment, but it resonates with a base that is so accustomed to hearing this stuff day in and day out. It is so well practiced that hearing the stuff just comes natural to them. The Republicans that are upset with his antics, don't like Trump because he represents the worst of themselves.

    For those on the receiving end of Trump's ridicule, who should they blame now? Obama for making them hate for so long?

  • Liberal
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    It says 50% or more of Amercans aren't capable of even understanding the slightest reason why they should vote the straight Democratic ticket! As soon as the old, white, Christian, male become the minority in this country the better off we all shall be.
  • Liberal
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    pr Wrote: It says 50% or more of Amercans aren't capable of even understanding the slightest reason why they should vote the straight Democratic ticket! As soon as the old, white, Christian, male become the minority in this country the better off we all shall be.

    Exactly!!!!!!!

    Racism, sexism. zealotry, wage disparity.....and most definitely....the lack of education in this country reflects the 24 percent for Trump....including the remainding 24 percent from the rest of the candidates.

    There is nothing new under the sun. Political correctness ,tolerance, self esteem, exceptionalism...and all that other shit created to fool you into believing this is a melting pot society to which GOD holds favor....and looks down upon his children with LOVE.Thumbs Down

    COMPLETE INSANITY..........

    Joke of the day: A plane is going down. The stewardess makes an announcement about lightening the load. To be fair she states" were going to do this by race and by alphabetical order."

    So she callls for any AFRICAN AMERICANS (no) Any BLACKS? (no) Any COLORED PEOPLE

    A young black son looks to his father and says....DAD, THAT's US....and the Father replies. NO SON, TODAY WE'RE NIGGAS...WE GO AFTER THE MEXICANS

  • Liberal Democrat
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    I found this parable floating around the internet, author unknown. It kind of reflects upon why Americans (or a segment of Americans) think as they do:

    An old Cherokee chief was teaching his grandson about life...

    "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.

    "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves.

    "One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt, and ego.

    "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.

    "This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

    The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather,

    "Which wolf will win?"

    The old chief simply replied,

    "The one you feed."

    So who is feeding who all the crap about Trump...or are they feeding themselves?

  • Liberal
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    They are all gluttons!
  • Liberal
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    pr Wrote: It says 50% or more of Amercans aren't capable of even understanding the slightest reason why they should vote the straight Democratic ticket! As soon as the old, white, Christian, male become the minority in this country the better off we all shall be.

    Exactly!!!!!!!

    Racism, sexism. zealotry, wage disparity.....and most definitely....the lack of education in this country reflects the 24 percent for Trump....including the remainding 24 percent from the rest of the candidates.

    There is nothing new under the sun. Political correctness ,tolerance, self esteem, exceptionalism...and all that other shit created to fool you into believing this is a melting pot society to which GOD holds favor....and looks down upon his children with LOVE.Thumbs Down

    COMPLETE INSANITY..........

    Joke of the day: A plane is going down. The stewardess makes an announcement about lightening the load. To be fair she states" were going to do this by race and by alphabetical order."

    So she callls for any AFRICAN AMERICANS (no) Any BLACKS? (no) Any COLORED PEOPLE

    A young black son looks to his father and says....DAD, THAT's US....and the Father replies. NO SON, TODAY WE'RE NIGGAS...WE GO AFTER THE MEXICANS

    Good one LA! Wink
  • Independent
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    pr Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    pr Wrote: It says 50% or more of Amercans aren't capable of even understanding the slightest reason why they should vote the straight Democratic ticket! As soon as the old, white, Christian, male become the minority in this country the better off we all shall be.

    Exactly!!!!!!!

    Racism, sexism. zealotry, wage disparity.....and most definitely....the lack of education in this country reflects the 24 percent for Trump....including the remainding 24 percent from the rest of the candidates.

    There is nothing new under the sun. Political correctness ,tolerance, self esteem, exceptionalism...and all that other shit created to fool you into believing this is a melting pot society to which GOD holds favor....and looks down upon his children with LOVE.Thumbs Down

    COMPLETE INSANITY..........

    Joke of the day: A plane is going down. The stewardess makes an announcement about lightening the load. To be fair she states" were going to do this by race and by alphabetical order."

    So she callls for any AFRICAN AMERICANS (no) Any BLACKS? (no) Any COLORED PEOPLE

    A young black son looks to his father and says....DAD, THAT's US....and the Father replies. NO SON, TODAY WE'RE NIGGAS...WE GO AFTER THE MEXICANS

    Good one LA! Wink
    L.A. great!!! One question; You said "Quote ..... and looks down upon his children with LOVE.....Unquote" , Wow? What kind of LOVE is it when all kind of people die of deceases, war, murder, guns, napalm, drones, churches hit by lightning, floods, hurricanes, global warming, hunger, crossing the street, drugs, bad water or no water, insects, poison, snakes, alligators, mosquito's, malaria, 9/11, sharks, heart attacks, tumors, cancer etc etc. you name it. I call that lots of LOVE.
  • Liberal
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    Dutch Wrote:
    pr Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    pr Wrote: It says 50% or more of Amercans aren't capable of even understanding the slightest reason why they should vote the straight Democratic ticket! As soon as the old, white, Christian, male become the minority in this country the better off we all shall be.

    Exactly!!!!!!!

    Racism, sexism. zealotry, wage disparity.....and most definitely....the lack of education in this country reflects the 24 percent for Trump....including the remainding 24 percent from the rest of the candidates.

    There is nothing new under the sun. Political correctness ,tolerance, self esteem, exceptionalism...and all that other shit created to fool you into believing this is a melting pot society to which GOD holds favor....and looks down upon his children with LOVE.Thumbs Down

    COMPLETE INSANITY..........

    Joke of the day: A plane is going down. The stewardess makes an announcement about lightening the load. To be fair she states" were going to do this by race and by alphabetical order."

    So she callls for any AFRICAN AMERICANS (no) Any BLACKS? (no) Any COLORED PEOPLE

    A young black son looks to his father and says....DAD, THAT's US....and the Father replies. NO SON, TODAY WE'RE NIGGAS...WE GO AFTER THE MEXICANS

    Good one LA! Wink
    L.A. great!!! One question; You said "Quote ..... and looks down upon his children with LOVE.....Unquote" , Wow? What kind of LOVE is it when all kind of people die of deceases, war, murder, guns, napalm, drones, churches hit by lightning, floods, hurricanes, global warming, hunger, crossing the street, drugs, bad water or no water, insects, poison, snakes, alligators, mosquito's, malaria, 9/11, sharks, heart attacks, tumors, cancer etc etc. you name it. I call that lots of LOVE.

    I'm still trying to figure that one out.

    Who do we think we are questioning God's love.....GOD LOVES US ALL...and how do I know.....because my bible told me so

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I have a hard time getting my head around why Donald Trump has a double digit lead in the Republican polls, and that the more he trashes the other candidates, or President Obama or John McCain, the higher his poll numbers go. Yet we must realize that he is tapping into a part of the base that is of the Republicans own making. For the last 6 1/2 years President Obama has been demeaned and ridiculed in every way possible by Fox News pundits, Rush Limbaugh, and members of Congress in a ruthless "everything goes" campaign of hate. Civility is not a part of their discourse.

    So Donald Trump comes to the forefront doing what other Republicans have been doing to Obama ever since he was elected president...trash talking. And Republicans are upset at his tactics? They should look in the mirror when they seem so shocked at Donald Trump. Republicans say Trump doesn't represent the party. I say they are wrong. He is the epitome of the party trash talkers that have had the bully pulpit for the last six years. Call it entertainment, but it resonates with a base that is so accustomed to hearing this stuff day in and day out. It is so well practiced that hearing the stuff just comes natural to them. The Republicans that are upset with his antics, don't like Trump because he represents the worst of themselves.

    For those on the receiving end of Trump's ridicule, who should they blame now? Obama for making them hate for so long?

    I think you hit the nail on the head, Schmidt. This is a beast of the Republicans own making. When they demonize the President on a never ending basis for his entire Presidency and persistently regurgitate one conspiracy theory after the next then it should be of no surprise that their base actually starts believing it.

    Trump is 2012's Michele Bachmann or Herman Cain. The Republican base loves hearing this utter nonsense, but they will eventually settle on someone at least somewhat competent who will actually give them a shot at winning in 2016. But I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins a primary or two and stays in the race for awhile. The Republican base will eat up his nonsensical rhetoric for as long as they possibly can before the adults step in and push him out. It should be one hell of a show while it lasts though!

  • Center Left
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    Great posts and great points made by all. I think part of what people are liking is that this crazy man is crossing lines. He's saying what others won't or don't say. People are tired of the standard / politically correct replies. It should get interesting.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:

    I have a hard time getting my head around why Donald Trump has a double digit lead in the Republican polls, and that the more he trashes the other candidates, or President Obama or John McCain, the higher his poll numbers go. Yet we must realize that he is tapping into a part of the base that is of the Republicans own making. For the last 6 1/2 years President Obama has been demeaned and ridiculed in every way possible by Fox News pundits, Rush Limbaugh, and members of Congress in a ruthless "everything goes" campaign of hate. Civility is not a part of their discourse.

    So Donald Trump comes to the forefront doing what other Republicans have been doing to Obama ever since he was elected president...trash talking. And Republicans are upset at his tactics? They should look in the mirror when they seem so shocked at Donald Trump. Republicans say Trump doesn't represent the party. I say they are wrong. He is the epitome of the party trash talkers that have had the bully pulpit for the last six years. Call it entertainment, but it resonates with a base that is so accustomed to hearing this stuff day in and day out. It is so well practiced that hearing the stuff just comes natural to them. The Republicans that are upset with his antics, don't like Trump because he represents the worst of themselves.

    For those on the receiving end of Trump's ridicule, who should they blame now? Obama for making them hate for so long?

    I think you hit the nail on the head, Schmidt. This is a beast of the Republicans own making. When they demonize the President on a never ending basis for his entire Presidency and persistently regurgitate one conspiracy theory after the next then it should be of no surprise that their base actually starts believing it.

    Trump is 2012's Michele Bachmann or Herman Cain. The Republican base loves hearing this utter nonsense, but they will eventually settle on someone at least somewhat competent who will actually give them a shot at winning in 2016. But I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins a primary or two and stays in the race for awhile. The Republican base will eat up his nonsensical rhetoric for as long as they possibly can before the adults step in and push him out. It should be one hell of a show while it lasts though!

    Jared, yes absolutely the case; except one thing he said about McCain, I do approve of; why? Because how can a "warmonger" like him, who gets rich over the backs of dead soldiers, due to his lobby friends, be an "war hero" ? I would think having been in a "useless" Vietnam war as well in jail there, then "normal" people would hate "wars", but he's exactly the opposite. Weird indeed.
  • Liberal
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    Hero.......another word used just way too much. NO...McCain...not a hero. A hero is when someone does an EXTRA-ORDINARY act.

    Like the barber who runs into a burning house to save "Little Billy. HERO: yes. Extra-ordinary

    The Fireman who runs into the same house: NOT A HERO. Well trained and well equipped. The servicemen killed in Tennessee....NOT HEROES.

    Where I live we call those...murder victims......They were heroes because they sat outside of a recruitment center and got mowed down....wheres the heroism?

  • Liberal
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:

    Hero.......another word used just way too much. NO...McCain...not a hero. A hero is when someone does an EXTRA-ORDINARY act.

    Like the barber who runs into a burning house to save "Little Billy. HERO: yes. Extra-ordinary

    The Fireman who runs into the same house: NOT A HERO. Well trained and well equipped. The servicemen killed in Tennessee....NOT HEROES.

    Where I live we call those...murder victims......They were heroes because they sat outside of a recruitment center and got mowed down....wheres the heroism?

    Once again you are 100% correct LA. The typical American wouldn't now a real hero if he tripped over one! This crap of calling everyone who is in the militar a "hero" is pure bulls shit designed to make the dumb, undereducated, uninformed members of society feel good about the suckers who join and give their lives up for nothing but immoral American aggression (a la John McCain, Lindsey Graham, et al)!
  • Liberal
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    pr Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote:

    Hero.......another word used just way too much. NO...McCain...not a hero. A hero is when someone does an EXTRA-ORDINARY act.

    Like the barber who runs into a burning house to save "Little Billy. HERO: yes. Extra-ordinary

    The Fireman who runs into the same house: NOT A HERO. Well trained and well equipped. The servicemen killed in Tennessee....NOT HEROES.

    Where I live we call those...murder victims......They were heroes because they sat outside of a recruitment center and got mowed down....wheres the heroism?

    Once again you are 100% correct LA. The typical American wouldn't now a real hero if he tripped over one! This crap of calling everyone who is in the militar a "hero" is pure bulls shit designed to make the dumb, undereducated, uninformed members of society feel good about the suckers who join and give their lives up for nothing but immoral American aggression (a la John McCain, Lindsey Graham, et al)!

    Also.....I'm sick and tired of "first responders"

    At the news conference yesterday half of it was "first responders " patting each other on the back on a job well done..... WHY.....you guys were there picking up body parts. The FBI commending the locals, the Marines commending the FBI, the goddamn Mayor even had a speech Everybody needed their sound byte just to let us know that all is well and theyre on the job..........shit, somebody better commend the coroner's office . They did all the work.

    We're creating "heroes" just for showing up first. Shit....my pizza man is a first responder. And he never forgets the ranch dressing for my hot wings. He's a HERO

  • Liberal
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    First responders = so far down on the job scale you have to go out first before the real workers get there!

    Gutta love double talkWink!