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President Obama's Powerful Eulogy to Reverand Clementa Pinckney

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    I have watched many of President Obama's speeches over the past several years, but his 30 minute eulogy to the Reverend Clementa Pinckney will go down in history as one of the most powerful eulogies of all time. It was a combination of preacher like sermon and a political theater culminating in Obama singing Amazing Grace. Yes our President sang and sang loudly, his voice capturing the entire audience who joined with him. It doesn't matter if you are a supporter or opponent of Obama, this speech/sermon has to be admired by everyone.

    CSPAN: President Obama Eulogy at Clementa Pinckney Funeral Service

    Another link:

    Huffington Post: Obama Gives Impassioned Eulogy At Clementa Pinckney's Funeral With Comments On Confederate Flag, Racism

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I couldn't agree more. That was a hell of a speech and one that will go down in history as one of his very best.

    Here's the entire speech for those who haven't had the chance to watch it.

  • Independent
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    Sorry Jared, "speeches" don't change this country; I call it "window dressing" Are we now throwing fewer bombs on civilians? I find it all a bit hypocritical.
  • Liberal
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    Dutch Wrote: Sorry Jared, "speeches" don't change this country; I call it "window dressing" Are we now throwing fewer bombs on civilians? I find it all a bit hypocritical.

    Why cry about this.....those nine people were "true believers".....god merely sent for his children. Window dressing???? this is the biggest stage of comedies I've ever seen. The greatest production ever. Our president bowed to the "FANTASY " populace.

  • Democrat
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    It was a very good speech and eulogy , will it affect the behavior of some ? maybe, will it affect those who are truly racists? I doubt it very much, the incident itself showed the world that citizens of this nation can react to a horrible crime without burning and looting and destroying other peoples property, but instead headed off the potential of a serious and probably violent reaction by using compassion, understanding and forgiveness to the vile human being that was the cause of those deaths. A big thank you to the Citizens of Charleston for showing what we are truly capable of to the World.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Sorry Jared, "speeches" don't change this country; I call it "window dressing"

    Speeches absolutely change this country. They have done so for hundreds of years. Speeches get people thinking. When people start thinking they change their views. When people change their views then things change.

    MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech light a spark into the Civil Rights movement that eventually ended state sanctioned discrimination.

    FDR's "The Only Thing we Have to Fear is Fear Itself" (aka his 1st Inaugural) made America believe that the country will rebound from the grips of the Great Depression.

    Kennedy's 1st Inaugural; Lincoln's Gettysburg Address and 2nd Inaugural; Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech that likely saved his candidacy (and the country--can you imagine what America and the world would be looking like if John McCain was wrapping up his second term in office now?); and dozens upon dozens of more have changed this country.

    Dutch Wrote:Are we now throwing fewer bombs on civilians? I find it all a bit hypocritical.

    We are definitely throwing fewer bombs on countries. We invaded two countries in the early 2000's. It wasn't just the Army and Marines who were fighting. We bombed two countries into complete oblivion. I would venture to say we dropped a hell of a lot more bombs then than we are now.

    I'd be happy to discuss that in another thread, but let's try to keep this one about Charleston.

  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: Sorry Jared, "speeches" don't change this country; I call it "window dressing"

    Speeches absolutely change this country. They have done so for hundreds of years. Speeches get people thinking. When people start thinking they change their views. When people change their views then things change.

    MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech light a spark into the Civil Rights movement that eventually ended state sanctioned discrimination.

    FDR's "The Only Thing we Have to Fear is Fear Itself" (aka his 1st Inaugural) made America believe that the country will rebound from the grips of the Great Depression.

    Kennedy's 1st Inaugural; Lincoln's Gettysburg Address and 2nd Inaugural; Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech that likely saved his candidacy (and the country--can you imagine what America and the world would be looking like if John McCain was wrapping up his second term in office now?); and dozens upon dozens of more have changed this country.

    Dutch Wrote:Are we now throwing fewer bombs on civilians? I find it all a bit hypocritical.

    We are definitely throwing fewer bombs on countries. We invaded two countries in the early 2000's. It wasn't just the Army and Marines who were fighting. We bombed two countries into complete oblivion. I would venture to say we dropped a hell of a lot more bombs then than we are now.

    I'd be happy to discuss that in another thread, but let's try to keep this one about Charleston.

    Jared , I seldom disagree with you; but I'll stick to "window dressing"
  • Center Left
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    That's what's great about the USA...... 300 million people and we can have 300 million different opinions. I watched the eulogy after cutting the grass. I was very glad I saw it. Some presidents give a great speech. Neither of the Bush presidents ever gave a great speech. Kennedy did, Reagan did, Clinton did, and Mr. Obama has on more than one occasion. This eulogy contained many things this country needed to hear at just the right time. If the rednecks of SC drag this issue out, and the conf. flag does not come down quickly, dollars not spent in SC.for tourism and stopping the purchase of items manufactured there will turn the volume up that this needs done and if it will not be done freely, it can be done otherwise.
  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote: That's what's great about the USA...... 300 million people and we can have 300 million different opinions. I watched the eulogy after cutting the grass. I was very glad I saw it. Some presidents give a great speech. Neither of the Bush presidents ever gave a great speech. Kennedy did, Reagan did, Clinton did, and Mr. Obama has on more than one occasion. This eulogy contained many things this country needed to hear at just the right time. If the rednecks of SC drag this issue out, and the conf. flag does not come down quickly, dollars not spent in SC.for tourism and stopping the purchase of items manufactured there will turn the volume up that this needs done and if it will not be done freely, it can be done otherwise.
    Tony; no I don't think 300 million people have all different opinions; only a few have. The mainstream is the "indoctrinated" one. Due to "capitalism" the object is to make money, so the "opinion" is to use every means to get it; that is what drives opinions. Flags or no flags, the mess here continues as usual. Do you really think there will be less killings here because of a speech? No it only will add to escalate the issue as it was. The KKK still exists.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Certainly speeches by themselves cannot be the catalyst for change or progress, but they can be inspirational. If the masses do not share the passion of the leader, than no speech will make them change course. President Obama can make wonderful speeches that hit the passion buttons of certain demographics of the American public. He certainly inspired me, a one time less than enthusiastic voter (but a voter nevertheless) to devote a big chunk of my summers of 2008 and 2012 ringing door bells for him. His speeches more than anything else resonated with me.

    Oh, and I have to ask...would Hitler have been able to move the masses to follow him without his proficiency in raising the passions of his country's citizens with speeches? A Hitler without his speeches? No.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Jared , I seldom disagree with you; but I'll stick to "window dressing"

    I know we seldom disagree Dutch, but I have to forcefully push back against the idea that speeches don't shape peoples views. That's the entire point of speeches.

    Speeches are what convinced someone to vote for a certain politician in this country for centuries.

    The Lincoln-Douglas debates (which were actually a series of long speeches by each candidate) convinced enough Americans to vote for Lincoln. If Douglas won then we may have never had a Civil War that eventually brought about the end of slavery. If MLK never stepped foot in front of the Lincoln Memorial and said that he had a dream then maybe state sanctioned discrimination would still be the law of the land.

    Speeches do shape peoples views. Sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse, but they aren't "window dressing."

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Certainly speeches by themselves cannot be the catalyst for change or progress, but they can be inspirational. If the masses do not share the passion of the leader, than no speech will make them change course. President Obama can make wonderful speeches that hit the passion buttons of certain demographics of the American public. He certainly inspired me, a one time less than enthusiastic voter (but a voter nevertheless) to devote a big chunk of my summers of 2008 and 2012 ringing door bells for him. His speeches more than anything else resonated with me.

    Oh, and I have to ask...would Hitler have been able to move the masses to follow him without his proficiency in raising the passions of his country's citizens with speeches? A Hitler without his speeches? No.

    Schmidt, just a question did the ringing of doorbells made any change? I doubt it people vote exactly the opposite, or they are already voting for our party anyway; I doubt if you convinced a Republican. About Hitler it only works if you have already indoctrinated the masses by other means. Like what is happening now in TX; they stopped the "gay" marriages regardless of the "ruling" with the "backing" of the "churches". "Indoctrination" goes always ahead of any speeches ; so the speech will have effect. Pure phycology.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Like what is happening now in TX; they stopped the "gay" marriages regardless of the "ruling" with the "backing" of the "churches".

    Texas, Alabama, and Mississippi are fighting a battle they know they are going to lose. There is zero chance of them winning this battle. The Supreme Court is the final arbiter in this land. Whatever they say goes.

    These deep south states can put up as much of a hissy fit as they want, but they aren't going to win. Let's just hope President Obama doesn't have to send in the National Guard to enforce the ruling. President Johnson had to do it to desegregate the south and I surely hope President Obama doesn't have to do the same thing.

    The South is always the last to accept change, but they always are forced into capitulation. They were in the Civil War; they were in the Civil Rights movement; and they will be again with marriage equality.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: Like what is happening now in TX; they stopped the "gay" marriages regardless of the "ruling" with the "backing" of the "churches".

    Texas, Alabama, and Mississippi are fighting a battle they know they are going to lose. There is zero chance of them winning this battle. The Supreme Court is the final arbiter in this land. Whatever they say goes.

    These deep south states can put up as much of a hissy fit as they want, but they aren't going to win. Let's just hope President Obama doesn't have to send in the National Guard to enforce the ruling. President Johnson had to do it to desegregate the south and I surely hope President Obama doesn't have to do the same thing.

    The South is always the last to accept change, but they always are forced into capitulation. They were in the Civil War; they were in the Civil Rights movement; and they will be again with marriage equality.

    Jared it was President Ike, who sent the 101st Airborne to insure the safety of the black children who had enrolled in an all white school in Ark.. . Gov. Faubus, had said he would deploy his National Guardsmen to prevent the desegration of the Ark schools system.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: Jared it was President Ike, who sent the 101st Airborne to insure the safety of the black children who had enrolled in an all white school in Ark.. . Gov. Faubus, had said he would deploy his National Guardsmen to prevent the desegration of the Ark schools system.
    Ike, Kennedy, and Johnson sent the National Guard to the deep south to force desegregation. Johnson was the last President to do so. He called up the National Guard to supervise the second Selma to Montgomery march in 1965. I just figured I would add the last President to do so because I assumed everyone else already understood that other Presidents did.