Number of Women Seeking Abortions Plummets Throughout America
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AP Exclusive: Abortions declining in nearly all states The AP has just released a report that reveals the number of women seeking abortions has plummeted in the past four years. This is not just in the deeply conservative states who have been waging war on women's rights since sweeping into power after the 2010 elections, but also in the bluest of blue states who have little to no restrictions that prevent a woman to choose to do what she wises with her own body. Not all states saw a decline in abortions, though. Louisiana, a state that has some of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country, saw a spike in abortions throughout the past four years. The same goes with Michigan, another state that has a very strict abortion laws. These are the only two states that had a rise in abortions throughout the past four years, which is funny considering they are also two states who have been trying to make it harder for women to get one. These findings directly contradict everything the Republicans and other anti-women's rights advocates have been saying for years. They say that the only thing that will stop women from getting abortions is if they make it nearly impossible for them to get one, but how can they explain the rapid decline in blue states that didn't partake in the anti-women's right fervor since 2010? Their entire argument is a red herring because what really stops a woman from getting an abortion is making sure she doesn't have to consider having one in the first place. Providing women quality and affordable contraceptive care since 2010 is, at least in my opinion, the reason women aren't having abortions anymore. You don't need to have an abortion if you can afford contraceptive care that will prevent you from getting pregnant in the first place.
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johnnycee Wrote: The report also says the viewing of sonograms of the early fetus and possibility of more effective contraception methods might also be a factor, at any rate I, for one, am glad the rate is dropping, for whatever the reason. The report suggests no such thing. The report did quote Charmaine Yoest, President of Americans United for Life, as saying: "There's an entire generation of women who saw a sonogram as their first baby picture." And "There's an increased awareness of the humanity of the baby before it is born."
A quote from the President of an anti-women's rights group is hardly something most people would take seriously.
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Until America accepts "ALL" children born, ensure "Both" parents support (even the missing Father which is often), provide excellent health care (ACA is a start), fully attack and prosecute all Human Trafficking of children (which we're not), than I see abortion as a viable option for a Mother (who usually makes the choice) to use in eliminating an undesired birth. Even the unspeakable of an undesired birth is sad, but having the child born into poverty, expensive health costs, lack of educational opportunities and slavery, America must approve of a Mother's option for an abortion. It is common for the Mother as the only party making the decision, but we have many anti-abortion wackos that force the Mother to do something she does not want to. Until America can clean up it's act in the care and protection of children, our country should have no say in slamming anti-abortion in the face of Mothers. Children born from rape and incest.........that's just inhumane. Don't even start to say the act was not child's fault............this is true, but the child needs parents. The biggest payback in Human Trafficking with babies born from prostitution (even -Illegal), is the child who becomes another prostitute for the sicko's in this world. America is so lame on Human Trafficking. Why is that...........many in high office is being paid to back off. America does a very poor job of taking care of children. The "IDEAL" situation is Mother and Father have a child in the best of care and every opportunity is provided. But..............hey..............that's fantasy anymore!
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Zach F Wrote:johnnycee Wrote: Is not the quote a part of the report? And any report worth it's research will address both sides of the question and then they will determine their findings using all investigative means at their disposal , both pro and con, and then allow the reader to either agree or disagree with their findings, unless the report concludes definitely one way., and as I said regardless as to the reason why, I am glad the abortion rate is going down for whatever reason. It's not part of the "report." The report is about the data and the facts. A quote from one side or the other would be a comment about the report.
The guy suggested that seeing a sonogram must account for the change. But since the cause of decline wasn't part of the research it isn't part of the report. It would be like me saying "factual and more comprehensive sexually ed is the cause of the decline." That comment isn't part of the report, it's just speculation of the reports findings. First off the "guy" was a girl that mentioned the sonogram comment, Charmaine Yoest is her name and she is the President of a group which calls itself Americans United for Life which lobby's strongly for more restrictive laws governing the use of abortion, the report does not give causes , the subsequent commentary speculates as to the causes, which I thought, perhaps wrongly, that this was the intent of the thread, to discuss the reasoning behind the drop ..
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johnnycee Wrote: First off the "guy" was a girl that mentioned the sonogram comment, Charmaine Yoest is her name and she is the President of a group which calls itself Americans United for Life which lobby's strongly for more restrictive laws governing the use of abortion, the report does not give causes , the subsequent commentary speculates as to the causes, which I thought, perhaps wrongly, that this was the intent of the thread, to discuss the reasoning behind the drop .. The intent of the thread was to inform our members of the AP study and to see what people thought of it. I will never speak for Zach, but it does seem like he was just trying to suggest that anyone who is quoted in the report who says it's this reason or that reason is just speculating. He even gave an example of a hypothetical quote that jumps to an entirely different conclusion as evidence that it was all speculation precisely because the report doesn't discuss the cause of decline, it's just discussing that there is one. I speculated (and stressed in my original posting and will stress again here that it is my opinion) that the decline is due, at least in large part, to expanded access to contraceptive care throughout the country. That is one of the few things that would/could bring about a precipitous decline of abortions throughout 48 of the 50 states in this country. States that have lax abortion standards are seeing a statistically comparable decline compared to states who have draconian standards. So, in my opinion, Charmaine Yoest's hypothesis doesn't hold up because plenty of states don't require women to go through burdensome procedures to get an abortion and their abortion rate is dropping at the same rate as those who force women to go through burdensome procedures.
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I have often believed that given a choice, most women will make the right choice in regards to their situation. I had the pleasure of meeting Sarah Weddington (Roe vs Wade) and I was fascinated by her passion for a woman's right to choose. It's a difficult choice to make, for sure, and one I have never had to make. We "liberals" aren't necessarily FOR abortion, but rather, let us make that choice, and if we want to bring our family, our priest, and our God into this decision making process, all the better. And I agree that women would not have to make such a personal decision if given the right "affordable contraceptive care" to begin with. Such decisions I am sure do not come easily. What we need to do is show some empathy and compassion. Here in AZ we have a governor who does not care; not just about women's issue's, but also those regarding children, welfare, education (shall I go on?) And he's a Catholic. I wonder if he gleaned anything from his visit to DC to listen to the Pope. Probably not. But these topics are for another day, as I could go on, and on, and on about this. Good Night.
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AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:Until America accepts "ALL" children born, ensure "Both" parents support (even the missing Father which is often), provide excellent health care (ACA is a start), fully attack and prosecute all Human Trafficking of children (which we're not), than I see abortion as a viable option for a Mother (who usually makes the choice) to use in eliminating an undesired birth. Even the unspeakable of an undesired birth is sad, but having the child born into poverty, expensive health costs, lack of educational opportunities and slavery, America must approve of a Mother's option for an abortion. It is common for the Mother as the only party making the decision, but we have many anti-abortion wackos that force the Mother to do something she does not want to. Until America can clean up it's act in the care and protection of children, our country should have no say in slamming anti-abortion in the face of Mothers. Children born from rape and incest.........that's just inhumane. Don't even start to say the act was not child's fault............this is true, but the child needs parents. The biggest payback in Human Trafficking with babies born from prostitution (even -Illegal), is the child who becomes another prostitute for the sicko's in this world. America is so lame on Human Trafficking. Why is that...........many in high office is being paid to back off. America does a very poor job of taking care of children. The "IDEAL" situation is Mother and Father have a child in the best of care and every opportunity is provided. But..............hey..............that's fantasy anymore! You be the Father. Open up your house to all these wonderful kids. You support them AMC. You be the example. Shit,,,,, theres no way in hell you're gonna allow little welfare babies in your house......so be quiet AMC
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Although being much too aged to accommodate a high energy drama into the immediate household, I do much in ways of assisting these children of neglected parentage. While many in America refuse to help these children and the organizations that try to stem the rising tide of homeless children on the streets, there are many of us that keep vigilance on this decadent human character. The biological fathers and mothers that discard their children like garbage, many of us hope to be there when these children need us. Those same biological fathers and mothers who are ill with criminal activity, drugs, and live lifestyles of forgetting WHO they are as being responsible for their seconds of sexual desires continue to force upon all of us WHO will eventually be the caretakers of these forgotten children. So, like I previously indicated, until America comes up with a dominate plan to take care of all these children left out of the parental mainstream, than for humanity's sake Planned Parenthood and it's options for abortion must prevail. There is no GOP, as well as no successful Democrat plan that addresses the concerns of forgotten children left to wander the streets of America. All that has been in recent media hype is a resounding NO to abortion, and NO to funding Planned Parenthood. From all this media news, where is the plan for the babies born or delivered that need help? These children are left helpless for human traffickers to use them as prostitutes, slave laborers, drug mules and child soldiers. Since, Los Angeles is a hub for human trafficking, it is a perfect example of people neglecting the children they bring into the world. Maybe we should have an award for the Worst-of-the Worst Father and Mother discarding their children like garbage. Until America has a plan for all the undesired children delivered in the country, than abortion options must be continued by organizations like Planned Parenthood. If at anytime there is discussions with the Mother and/or Father that can persuade them to be parents than hopefully a great success can be achieved to keep the children with the family unit. America needs to pursue policy in adopting more assistance in helping parents succeed in being the family that humanity achieves.
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AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:Although being much too aged to accommodate a high energy drama into the immediate household, I do much in ways of assisting these children of neglected parentage. While many in America refuse to help these children and the organizations that try to stem the rising tide of homeless children on the streets, there are many of us that keep vigilance on this decadent human character. The biological fathers and mothers that discard their children like garbage, many of us hope to be there when these children need us. Those same biological fathers and mothers who are ill with criminal activity, drugs, and live lifestyles of forgetting WHO they are as being responsible for their seconds of sexual desires continue to force upon all of us WHO will eventually be the caretakers of these forgotten children. So, like I previously indicated, until America comes up with a dominate plan to take care of all these children left out of the parental mainstream, than for humanity's sake Planned Parenthood and it's options for abortion must prevail. There is no GOP, as well as no successful Democrat plan that addresses the concerns of forgotten children left to wander the streets of America. All that has been in recent media hype is a resounding NO to abortion, and NO to funding Planned Parenthood. From all this media news, where is the plan for the babies born or delivered that need help? These children are left helpless for human traffickers to use them as prostitutes, slave laborers, drug mules and child soldiers. Since, Los Angeles is a hub for human trafficking, it is a perfect example of people neglecting the children they bring into the world. Maybe we should have an award for the Worst-of-the Worst Father and Mother discarding their children like garbage. Until America has a plan for all the undesired children delivered in the country, than abortion options must be continued by organizations like Planned Parenthood. If at anytime there is discussions with the Mother and/or Father that can persuade them to be parents than hopefully a great success can be achieved to keep the children with the family unit. America needs to pursue policy in adopting more assistance in helping parents succeed in being the family that humanity achieves. Yes AMC I see your point; indeed this world is full with unwanted children; that is the reason that churches should stop with their restrictions on birth control; In Europe they practice that for ages. Birth control pills should be just about "free" for anyone; for abortions the same thing; an beat up kid who goes on drugs because of all the damage done to it, will not be an positive addition to the society. Catholic families with 13 kids should not be allowed.
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