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Things to be undone in 2017

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  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    Interesting story on CNN. They are considering taking Andrew Jackson off of the twenty dollar bill ?
    Nobody talks about AJ very much. Some viewers said in the first half of the 1800's he did something that caused Indians to lose much land.
    Anyway
    The talk involves putting a women on the 20.00. They surveyed many people (but we all know it's who,when,where,and why that shapes the results of any survey), and the leader of choices was Harriet Tubman who was in first place. Eleanor Roosevelt was top 3.
    I can't see this happening. Black people haven't yet gotten fair justice, protection from the police, civil/judicial equality, incarceration rates, or employment equality.
    Does anyone believe that putting an old black women on the 20.00 is going to help ? I don't.
    I also think a very old, white, wealthy set of decision makers (FOX - Koch - Church) will make it difficult for the change to pass.
    Hell, they haven't even taken Obama Care apart yet.
    Sadly, there are too many closet racists out there for us to expect anything except baby steps towards leveling the playing field.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    TJ Wrote: Interesting story on CNN. They are considering taking Andrew Jackson off of the twenty dollar bill ?
    Nobody talks about AJ very much. Some viewers said in the first half of the 1800's he did something that caused Indians to lose much land.
    There's been a push to take him off the $20 for many years now. I would love to see him taken off and replaced with a woman, but I agree that nothing is going to come from it.

    Jackson did more than cause Indian's to lose a lot of land. He is single handily responsible for America's first, but definitely not last, act of genocide. Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which forcibly removed nearly every Native American tribe from the United States and relocated them the territories west of the Mississippi River. Thousands of Native Americans died during what is now known as the Trail of Tears.

    Jackson is a tyrant who doesn't deserve to have an elementary school named after him, let alone have his face plastered on American currency.
    TJ Wrote:Anyway
    The talk involves putting a women on the 20.00. They surveyed many people (but we all know it's who,when,where,and why that shapes the results of any survey), and the leader of choices was Harriet Tubman who was in first place. Eleanor Roosevelt was top 3.
    I can't see this happening. Black people haven't yet gotten fair justice, protection from the police, civil/judicial equality, incarceration rates, or employment equality.
    Does anyone believe that putting an old black women on the 20.00 is going to help ? I don't.
    I also think a very old, white, wealthy set of decision makers (FOX - Koch - Church) will make it difficult for the change to pass.
    Hell, they haven't even taken Obama Care apart yet.
    Sadly, there are too many closet racists out there for us to expect anything except baby steps towards leveling the playing field.
    It wouldn't help race relations, but it would be great to see any historical woman replace Jackson.

    Harriet Tubman would be a great choice. As would Susan B. Anthony, Clara Barton (founded the American Red Cross), Sacagawea, and Helen Keller. Hell, there are countless women who deserve to be on American currency before someone like Andrew Jackson.

    But I do agree with you that the right wing would never, ever allow something like that to happen.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    TJ Wrote: Interesting story on CNN. They are considering taking Andrew Jackson off of the twenty dollar bill ?
    Nobody talks about AJ very much. Some viewers said in the first half of the 1800's he did something that caused Indians to lose much land.
    There's been a push to take him off the $20 for many years now. I would love to see him taken off and replaced with a woman, but I agree that nothing is going to come from it.

    Jackson did more than cause Indian's to lose a lot of land. He is single handily responsible for America's first, but definitely not last, act of genocide. Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which forcibly removed nearly every Native American tribe from the United States and relocated them the territories west of the Mississippi River. Thousands of Native Americans died during what is now known as the Trail of Tears.

    Jackson is a tyrant who doesn't deserve to have an elementary school named after him, let alone have his face plastered on American currency.
    TJ Wrote:Anyway
    The talk involves putting a women on the 20.00. They surveyed many people (but we all know it's who,when,where,and why that shapes the results of any survey), and the leader of choices was Harriet Tubman who was in first place. Eleanor Roosevelt was top 3.
    I can't see this happening. Black people haven't yet gotten fair justice, protection from the police, civil/judicial equality, incarceration rates, or employment equality.
    Does anyone believe that putting an old black women on the 20.00 is going to help ? I don't.
    I also think a very old, white, wealthy set of decision makers (FOX - Koch - Church) will make it difficult for the change to pass.
    Hell, they haven't even taken Obama Care apart yet.
    Sadly, there are too many closet racists out there for us to expect anything except baby steps towards leveling the playing field.
    It wouldn't help race relations, but it would be great to see any historical woman replace Jackson.

    Harriet Tubman would be a great choice. As would Susan B. Anthony, Clara Barton (founded the American Red Cross), Sacagawea, and Helen Keller. Hell, there are countless women who deserve to be on American currency before someone like Andrew Jackson.

    But I do agree with you that the right wing would never, ever allow something like that to happen.
    Who cares? for my part they put Micky Mouse on it or Dart Vader or Obama's dog; it still a smelly piece of paper; nothing changes.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    I've read pros and cons on this. Harriet Tubman is indeed a person that needs to honored in our history, but those opposed think that putting her photo on the 20 dollar bill cheapens what her life was really about. She was born into slavery and became an abolitionist and humanitarian. Her life was not about money. It was about the greater good in people, things that money can't buy. And we should not honor her legacy by replacing Jackson with Tubman...two opposites in life.

    Maybe we should just leave the money photos to people who really relished and were consumed by money in their lives. I nominate David Rockefeller.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    In thinking about a better way of honoring Harriet Tubman's legacy, my first thought was maybe naming the Presidential Medal of Freedom after her, but in browsing that website I note that some 80 or so medals are awarded by presidents in their respective tenures in office, and some of these might raise some eyebrows. Furthermore the word "freedom" meant something entirely different to Harriet Tubman than what is being thrown around in much of our political jargon today.

    So I would like to see Congress establish the " Harriet Tubman Award" and have the President make just a very few awards annually, maybe only one or two, and with a very narrow scope that epitomizes the life of Harriet Tubman and what she stood for in her life...helping others and standing up for her rights. In reading Wikipedia, I note that when she died she was penniless. So that's another reason why I think a special Harriet Tubman Award would make more sense than putting her image on a grubby 20 dollar bill.