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  • that guy in Arizona
    2015-05-08 09:28:31 AM
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    This morning's Chicago Tribune had a good article about the Republican clown car. As of this morning, there are now 15 candidates, none of whom I would ever consider voting for.

    It actually doesn't matter who the eventual candidate actually is (or, as Obama said recently, who the Koch brothers pick) but it's critical that the Republican Party doesn't control the White House for a long time to come. The Grand Old Party is simply dead wrong on so many issues (gun control, birth control, budgets, immigration, health care, gay rights etc) but the MOST important area in which they are dead wrong is on environmental issues. I just finished reading Al Gore's book. Our Choice, and have started to read "This changes everything" by Naomi Klein. Both books provide frightening examples of why
    the Democrats NEED to keep control of the White House. If that happens, we'll eventually be able to turn our country back into a democracy instead of the oligarchy that it currently is.


    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-republican-clown-car--20150507-story.html
  • Michael39301
    2015-05-08 11:08:59 AM
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    Well-written Guy, exactly my thoughts.
  • jaredsxtn
    2015-05-08 12:04:30 PM
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    I have a strong feeling that half, if not more, of these 'candidates' are jumping in just to get some name recognition and a future Fox News show. There is zero chance of people like Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, or Carly Fiorina ever getting the nomination, let alone actually winning the general election.

    I do agree that America would be in a world of hurt if any of these clowns are elected as our next President though.

    Do you want a really good laugh? Jeb Bush said that George W, the most incompetent President this country has ever had, is a TOP foreign policy adviser of his campaign. I nearly fell off my chair when I read that one.

    Jeb: George W. Bush is a top foreign policy adviser
  • TJ
    2015-05-08 02:21:36 PM
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    I hope that this thread might get forwarded to a political cartoonist because "The Republican Clown Car" paints a good image. (good job pr) I could only imagine it done by a great cartoonist.
  • pr
    2015-05-08 06:39:33 PM
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    Wish I was an artist
  • Dutch
    2015-05-09 08:22:11 AM
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: I have a strong feeling that half, if not more, of these 'candidates' are jumping in just to get some name recognition and a future Fox News show. There is zero chance of people like Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, or Carly Fiorina ever getting the nomination, let alone actually winning the general election.

    I do agree that America would be in a world of hurt if any of these clowns are elected as our next President though.

    Do you want a really good laugh? Jeb Bush said that George W, the most incompetent President this country has ever had, is a TOP foreign policy adviser of his campaign. I nearly fell off my chair when I read that one.

    Jeb: George W. Bush is a top foreign policy adviser
    That guy was not only incompetent but a murderer of hundreds of thousands of people; 9/11 he used as an excuse to attack countries who never attacked us.
    We are still feeling the consequences today; but the Pentagon fares well by it; the navy wants more planes and there will be huge war games/excersizes in TX at a huge cost. The warmongers are of course thankful for George W's vision. What a total sick idiot family the Bushes are.
  • Schmidt
    2015-05-09 01:28:57 PM
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    Many of these candidates jump in for their short moment of glory or attention that the media give them. When Carly jumped in it seems all the media outlets were clamoring to give her a podium to put out her line of bull crap, much of it unchallenged by the moderators. She is probably eyeing a spot as VP.

    Others are just there as attack dogs against Obama and Hillary...and maybe now Bernie Sanders. Put a microphone in their faces and the rehearsed script comes out automatically...like turning a wind up key on their backs. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Give me an anonymous text of what they say, and I'll tell you which one said it. They are so predictable and boring.

  • that guy in Arizona
    2015-05-15 09:19:59 PM
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    crooksandliars.com produced a good cartoon for this topic:

    http://crooksandliars.com/files/imagecache/node_primary/primary_image/15/01/15834442837_cf625c7505_b_d.jpg

    Here's the rest of the article:

    http://crooksandliars.com/2015/01/jeb-and-mitt-bicker-over-top-seat-gop-2016
  • jaredsxtn
    2015-06-01 02:54:38 PM
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    I'm having a really hard time keeping track of every Republican who has declared their intention to run for President in 2016. Senator Graham announced his intentions to run at a sparsely populated rally, which brings the current total of Republicans who have announced their intention to run or have formed an exploratory committee to 16.

    You know things are getting bad when the mouthpiece for everything conservative announced that they will cap their first televised debate at 10. It will be interesting to see who makes the cut and who will be left crying that Fox News is silencing their right to be heard.
  • Zach F
    2015-06-01 03:27:08 PM
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: I'm having a really hard time keeping track of every Republican who has declared their intention to run for President in 2016. Senator Graham announced his intentions to run at a sparsely populated rally, which brings the current total of Republicans who have announced their intention to run or have formed an exploratory committee to 16.

    You know things are getting bad when the mouthpiece for everything conservative announced that they will cap their first televised debate at 10. It will be interesting to see who makes the cut and who will be left crying that Fox News is silencing their right to be heard.
    I find it more disturbing that Fox News has the power to pick the GOP runners.
  • jaredsxtn
    2015-06-01 03:39:18 PM
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    Zach F Wrote: I find it more disturbing that Fox News has the power to pick the GOP runners.
    I don't disagree at all, but how in the world can any media outlet allow twenty plus people on a debate stage? That would be impossible to moderate.

    I often wish we conducted our elections like nearly every other democracy in the world, but we won't be anytime soon after the Citizens United ruling. So why shouldn't any media outlet pick and choose who gets to be on the debate stage? Should they just allow any and everyone who has declared their candidacy to participate or should they have a cut-off?

    Fox News knows its viewers and will make sure that anyone who has even a remote shot to win the Republican nomination is on the stage, but I just don't see how they or any other media organization can allow any and every Republican who said they were running for President to participate.
  • Dutch
    2015-06-01 09:09:32 PM
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Zach F Wrote: I find it more disturbing that Fox News has the power to pick the GOP runners.
    I don't disagree at all, but how in the world can any media outlet allow twenty plus people on a debate stage? That would be impossible to moderate.

    I often wish we conducted our elections like nearly every other democracy in the world, but we won't be anytime soon after the Citizens United ruling. So why shouldn't any media outlet pick and choose who gets to be on the debate stage? Should they just allow any and everyone who has declared their candidacy to participate or should they have a cut-off?

    Fox News knows its viewers and will make sure that anyone who has even a remote shot to win the Republican nomination is on the stage, but I just don't see how they or any other media organization can allow any and every Republican who said they were running for President to participate.
    What I find more disturbing is the amount of money which every candidate tries to raise; we could use that money much better in this country then for those numskulls who are only there to push up their own ego's.
  • Zach F
    2015-06-02 12:41:42 AM
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Zach F Wrote: I find it more disturbing that Fox News has the power to pick the GOP runners.
    I don't disagree at all, but how in the world can any media outlet allow twenty plus people on a debate stage? That would be impossible to moderate.

    I often wish we conducted our elections like nearly every other democracy in the world, but we won't be anytime soon after the Citizens United ruling. So why shouldn't any media outlet pick and choose who gets to be on the debate stage? Should they just allow any and everyone who has declared their candidacy to participate or should they have a cut-off?

    Fox News knows its viewers and will make sure that anyone who has even a remote shot to win the Republican nomination is on the stage, but I just don't see how they or any other media organization can allow any and every Republican who said they were running for President to participate.
    It would be interesting to see the Equal-Time rule applied to cable networks like it should be and just see what happens.
  • Dutch
    2015-06-02 10:30:54 AM
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    Zach F Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Zach F Wrote: I find it more disturbing that Fox News has the power to pick the GOP runners.
    I don't disagree at all, but how in the world can any media outlet allow twenty plus people on a debate stage? That would be impossible to moderate.

    I often wish we conducted our elections like nearly every other democracy in the world, but we won't be anytime soon after the Citizens United ruling. So why shouldn't any media outlet pick and choose who gets to be on the debate stage? Should they just allow any and everyone who has declared their candidacy to participate or should they have a cut-off?

    Fox News knows its viewers and will make sure that anyone who has even a remote shot to win the Republican nomination is on the stage, but I just don't see how they or any other media organization can allow any and every Republican who said they were running for President to participate.
    It would be interesting to see the Equal-Time rule applied to cable networks like it should be and just see what happens.
    Linsey Graham joined the clown car as well. The 9999 generals here will certainly vote for him; the more wars the better; may be he should have a sex change and marry McCain.
  • jaredsxtn
    2015-06-02 11:28:23 AM
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    Zach F Wrote: It would be interesting to see the Equal-Time rule applied to cable networks like it should be and just see what happens.

    I would love to see something like this. When you say equal time do you mean giving equal time to every declared candidate on the debate stage or just providing a platform for every candidate to reach a wider audience and not even have a debate in the first place?

    These debates are a joke anyway, so it would be nice to have something like that. Everyone knows what each candidate is going to say and most people are watching only to hopefully catch a major gaffe by a candidate. Giving each candidate a set amount of time to state their case would be something I'd like to hear more than twenty people interrupting and talking over each other.

    The only ting would be how stations would conduct things on the Democratic side. Would each candidate get more time to speak because there are far fewer candidates or should they get the same amount of time as each Republican?

    I know all of this is wishful thinking and none of it will ever come to fruition, but it is fun to think about.

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