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  • Independent
    Amarillo, TX
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    Concerning topic to me, I found out that by 2025 all motor vehicle manufactures have make there vehicles get 54.5 MPG which i think is terrible, it would be death to the super car and muscle car... The v8 would be very rare, Most vehicles will probably have v6's or I4's. I mean i love the sound of a V8 rumbling but why does the goverment have to strictin up on automotive companys?
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    Charlotte, NC
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    You think it's concerning to conserve fossil fuels as much as possible? If it were up to me, we'd all be riding bicycles everyday. And I've had more fast and fuel guzzling cars than I can count. The cars that I love use more fuel than average for sure, but that doesn't meen they are what's best just because I like them.

    And I cannot wrap my head around how all vehicles getting 50+ mpg would be, "terrible". Who/what exactly would that be terrible for? Look at the gap from true muscle cars to now. Mpg has almost quadrupled and it's a good thing. I can name a few 100% electric super cars/non super cars on the market that will blow the doors off of a built muscle car any day. Yes they are pricey right now, but in 15 years or so that technology will start to be applied to the mass.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Anyway this subject is nonsense; as fuel because of selfsustainability in the US it becomes cheaper and present cars last longer as well for heavy transport LPG can be used as a cheaper alternative, I doubt that that goal of 54 miles a gallon will be achieved other than hybrids; this figure would not matter if this stupid country would do something about infrastructure related to public transportation that will save enormous amounts of fossil fuel. Aircraft are the biggest consumers anyway and that will not change at all. Our armed forces who don't use any count of mileage are a huge consumer for which we get nothing at all back; ships at sea continously; airforce aircraft which guzzle per hour more fuel then anyone uses for a full year etc. Then don't forget our smoking wastefull school buses; they are a pain as well block traffic which causes more fuel burn. No this country has still got a lot to learn. How about fast commuter trains; high speed trains. Here in FL if you would be able to get public transport ( Greyhound?) it will take you 3 days to get from Miami to Orlando. Wow no trains between any cities at the west coast. Sorry related to infrastructure we are 100 years behind Europe, thanks to our love for wars there is where we spent all our money instead.
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    Why do we even have to read such ignorant, stupidity here? It's no wonder the USA has become the laughing stock of the world with knuckleheads like this out there posting such childish nonsense!Thumbs DownSad
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    pr Wrote: Why do we even have to read such ignorant, stupidity here? It's no wonder the USA has become the laughing stock of the world with knuckleheads like this out there posting such childish nonsense!Thumbs DownSad
    I don't hope you meant me! Otherwise I will call Jesus to the rescue.
  • Liberal
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    You won't be able to catch me with that sissy little Europeean car of yours, don't forget, I've got 602 cc's under my hood!
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    I had a 1970 Dodge Challenger with a 440 magnum engine that could run circles around my buddy's Chevelle 396. The only drawbacks were gas mileage, less than 10 mpg on premium, but premium was only 36 cents per gallon in those days, and insurance rates. Replacing the tires every 4,000 miles got expensive too. I sure had lots of fun with it though. And it had hard-wired radar detection under the hood, which was almost constantly being set off.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    pr Wrote: You won't be able to catch me with that sissy little Europeean car of yours, don't forget, I've got 602 cc's under my hood!
    Wow; please come to FL in yr new van with the solar panels and your Citroen and lets have some fun in the sun. If you call 320HP sissy in the Porsche then I put solar panels on it to boost "what" ? Anyway everyone in the future should drive a 2CV Citroen it is absolute fun; I had two of them.
  • Liberal
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    I'll bet my 20 hp will go a lot more places than your 320hpVery Happy It does need premium, however to achieve that 20hp!
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    Denton, TX
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    MrDuramax Wrote: Concerning topic to me, I found out that by 2025 all motor vehicle manufactures have make there vehicles get 54.5 MPG which i think is terrible, it would be death to the super car and muscle car... The v8 would be very rare, Most vehicles will probably have v6's or I4's. I mean i love the sound of a V8 rumbling but why does the goverment have to strictin up on automotive companys?
    Because the air and environment are public goods. You can't just pump wreckless amounts of CO2 into the air unrestricted. The burning of fossil fuels is the main contributor to climate change and is dramatically shifting our environment.

    You don't find it the least bit ridiculous that you willing to make life worse for others and future generations just so you can have a little fun? Think about the bigger the picture.
  • Independent
    Amarillo, TX
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    Yes but everybody doesnt see the bigger picture. We only live once why do we have live a boring life in the slow lane? I would reckon it impossible for a car to be any slight bit fast if it has to achieve 54 mpg.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Zach F Wrote:
    MrDuramax Wrote: Concerning topic to me, I found out that by 2025 all motor vehicle manufactures have make there vehicles get 54.5 MPG which i think is terrible, it would be death to the super car and muscle car... The v8 would be very rare, Most vehicles will probably have v6's or I4's. I mean i love the sound of a V8 rumbling but why does the goverment have to strictin up on automotive companys?
    Because the air and environment are public goods. You can't just pump wreckless amounts of CO2 into the air unrestricted. The burning of fossil fuels is the main contributor to climate change and is dramatically shifting our environment.

    You don't find it the least bit ridiculous that you willing to make life worse for others and future generations just so you can have a little fun? Think about the bigger the picture.
    Zach; pls read what I wrote; it does not make any difference; 6000 aircraft per hour above your head; plenty of military equipment which spew; railroads; dumptrucks; school buses; lawnmowers; motorcycles; boats; factories; buildings; barbecue's; crematorium's; landfill fires; other fires; power plants; smokers; manufacturing processes etc. all create polution.
    Anything humans do even your exhaust breath creates polution. the more people on this tiny globe then polution in the air and everywhere is here to stay.
  • Independent
    Amarillo, TX
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    See dutch gets it.
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Zach F Wrote:
    MrDuramax Wrote: Concerning topic to me, I found out that by 2025 all motor vehicle manufactures have make there vehicles get 54.5 MPG which i think is terrible, it would be death to the super car and muscle car... The v8 would be very rare, Most vehicles will probably have v6's or I4's. I mean i love the sound of a V8 rumbling but why does the goverment have to strictin up on automotive companys?
    Because the air and environment are public goods. You can't just pump wreckless amounts of CO2 into the air unrestricted. The burning of fossil fuels is the main contributor to climate change and is dramatically shifting our environment.

    You don't find it the least bit ridiculous that you willing to make life worse for others and future generations just so you can have a little fun? Think about the bigger the picture.
    Zach; pls read what I wrote; it does not make any difference; 6000 aircraft per hour above your head; plenty of military equipment which spew; railroads; dumptrucks; school buses; lawnmowers; motorcycles; boats; factories; buildings; barbecue's; crematorium's; landfill fires; other fires; power plants; smokers; manufacturing processes etc. all create polution.
    Anything humans do even your exhaust breath creates polution. the more people on this tiny globe then polution in the air and everywhere is here to stay.
    It does make difference. We need to stop using fossil fuels altogether because it is completely unsustainable and destroying the environment on which we need to survive. It is completely unreasonable to transition immediately so the transition needs to be gradual. Motor vehicles are clearly a good starting point. Factories and high carbon industries are another.

    Just throwing your hands up and saying "it doesn't make difference" is not only wrong, it is 100% irresponsible, lazy, short-sighted and idiotic.
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    MrDuramax Wrote: Yes but everybody doesnt see the bigger picture. We only live once why do we have live a boring life in the slow lane? I would reckon it impossible for a car to be any slight bit fast if it has to achieve 54 mpg.
    I imagine it is possible to get a vehicle up to those speeds without fossil fuel. We are on the verge of those benchmarks right now.

    Stll extremely irresponsible to to destroy the world around you just so you get a quick thrill.