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ISIS and Taliban Have Announced Jihad on Each Other

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  • Center Left
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    The Islamic state of Iraq (ISIS) chief, Abu Bakar al-Baghdadi called the supreme leader of the Taliban, Mullah Mohammad Omar a, "fool and illiterate warlord". Their has been fighting among the two groups for quite a while now due to difference of radical opinions. But when both sides are in the business of killing innocents in waves, I think it's easy to say that they are both fools and illiterates.

    I have to say though, not really something I saw coming. If anything I would have expected a merger of some kind in the future. Though it is obviously decent news for everyone else. Not that war of any kind is a good thing. But in this especially particular case, it's really the only good thing I've ever heard.The two groups that have caused the most trouble in the past decade are about to be at war with themselves. It's interesting to me that the taliban is popping their head out to do this. ISIS has been on a rampage lately of destroying monuments and lives, while the taliban has been in the shadows. Let's hope they duke it out in an abandoned field miles and miles away from any other living sole and wipe each other out.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I'm actually not surprised at all, but I believe the Taliban are not necessarily comparable to ISIS.

    The Taliban, for all of its countless faults, have actually governed territory for over two decades. They did harbor Al-Qaeda operatives in the lead up to 9/11, but the two groups are not one in the same. The Taliban also don't have visions of a grand Islamic State in the greater Middle-East. They seem to be quite content staying in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    ISIS, on the other hand, doesn't really seem to have a governing policy other than slaughtering as many Shiites and Westerners as humanly possible. They would rather wage a limitless war than ever becoming a functioning governing body. And they also strive to gain as much land as they can.

    The two groups do share one thing in common though--their backwards and outdated vision of governance. Women are second class citizens and gays are put to death.

    I actually think this is more of a PR war of words than an actual declaration of war between the two groups. Iran separates the two sides and I seriously don't see ISIS trying to push through Iran in order to get to Taliban operatives in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And even if they did--the Pakistani military with all the American toys we provided them would give them more than a few problems.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: I'm actually not surprised at all, but I believe the Taliban are not necessarily comparable to ISIS.

    The Taliban, for all of its countless faults, have actually governed territory for over two decades. They did harbor Al-Qaeda operatives in the lead up to 9/11, but the two groups are not one in the same. The Taliban also don't have visions of a grand Islamic State in the greater Middle-East. They seem to be quite content staying in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    ISIS, on the other hand, doesn't really seem to have a governing policy other than slaughtering as many Shiites and Westerners as humanely possible. They would rather wage a limitless war than ever becoming a functioning governing body. And they also strive to gain as much land as they can.

    The two groups do share one thing in common though--their backwards and outdated vision of governance. Women are second class citizens and gays are put to death.

    I actually think this is more of a PR war of words than an actual declaration of war between the two groups. Iran separates the two sides and I seriously don't see ISIS trying to push through Iran in order to get to Taliban operatives in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And even if they did--the Pakistani military with all the American toys we provided them would give them more than a few problems.
    As I said in many of my mails; the more you fight them the more revenge they will seek; names are un-important; both parties hate Americans so we will be treated the same. Thanks to our drones certain African countries seek revenge as well; congratulations to our leaders. The more we poke our noses into foreign countries the more we will be sorry.
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    Please let them kill each other and leave other people alone. And let's keep our distance from this mess for once.
  • Independent
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    lonely bird Wrote: Please let them kill each other and leave other people alone. And let's keep our distance from this mess for once.
    We will never learn; we are sending now "battle ships" to the Iran area; just to show how tough we are; lets irritate; that is our hobby I guess.

    "Distance" ? No we poke our noses fully into it; let's create some more "hero"s and "veterans" we could use some more!!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: We will never learn; we are sending now "battle ships" to the Iran area; just to show how tough we are; lets irritate; that is our hobby I guess.

    "Distance" ? No we poke our noses fully into it; let's create some more "hero"s and "veterans" we could use some more!!
    The Navy sending warships to the Gulf of Aden doesn't have much of anything to do with the fight between Al Qaeda and ISIS, but it does show how complex the wars in the region are becoming.

    I will argue that this isn't nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. America police's the worlds oceans. We have for many decades now. Our Navy has worked to ensure unrestricted free passage of goods from point A to point B and countless nations are dependent on that so they can conduct their business. I am actually fine with that. Having a country work to provide unrestricted access to the worlds oceans is a good thing. What I'm not fine with is fighting wars for sport.

    Look at the map of where the Navy's 5th Fleet is currently patrolling outside of Yemen. If Iran is given unrestricted access to that region then they can wreak havoc on the worlds economy. I don't know if any of us are ready for the potential economic catastrophe that might come from giving Iran unfettered access to waters far outside of their borders.

    The Navy is also there to prevent Iran from depositing arms shipments to the Iranian backed Yemeni rebels who now control large swaths of the country. Iran wouldn't dare attempt to break that blockade, so they are now in a game of cat and mouse. Iran wants to deliver the weapons and America won't let them. Who do you think will win in the end?
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: We will never learn; we are sending now "battle ships" to the Iran area; just to show how tough we are; lets irritate; that is our hobby I guess.

    "Distance" ? No we poke our noses fully into it; let's create some more "hero"s and "veterans" we could use some more!!
    The Navy sending warships to the Gulf of Aden doesn't have much of anything to do with the fight between Al Qaeda and ISIS, but it does show how complex the wars in the region are becoming.

    I will argue that this isn't nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. America police's the worlds oceans. We have for many decades now. Our Navy has worked to ensure unrestricted free passage of goods from point A to point B and countless nations are dependent on that so they can conduct their business. I am actually fine with that. Having a country work to provide unrestricted access to the worlds oceans is a good thing. What I'm not fine with is fighting wars for sport.

    Look at the map of where the Navy's 5th Fleet is currently patrolling outside of Yemen. If Iran is given unrestricted access to that region then they can wreak havoc on the worlds economy. I don't know if any of us are ready for the potential economic catastrophe that might come from giving Iran unfettered access to waters far outside of their borders.

    The Navy is also there to prevent Iran from depositing arms shipments to the Iranian backed Yemeni rebels who now control large swaths of the country. Iran wouldn't dare attempt to break that blockade, so they are now in a game of cat and mouse. Iran wants to deliver the weapons and America won't let them. Who do you think will win in the end?
    Jared; Think outside the "box" ; like I said our " arrogant dominance" irritates a lot of countries, which puts only more oil on the fire. Do you honestly think they love us more because we stop transport of weapons etc. while we are free to transport our weapons to whom we choose? No sorry we poke our noses into everything, which I guarantee will eventual backfire; Sure we have done a fantastic jobs in Iraq and other places, Exellent results, Wow, everyone who got bombed or droned by us will now look for revenge. Do you honestly think Iran will be happy with an yet to be signed deal?; no they will support whomever they want to support. Wake up America you are no longer the policeman of the world, but only the arrogant warmonger of the world. The US and Israel are continual at war with other countries; What Russia, China, North Korea etc. are doing is peanuts by what we are doing around the world. Napoleon is laughing in his grave looking at this picture.
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    American and two hostages killed in drone strike in border Afghanistan; Obama apologized for that event today. It won't be long or half the world will hate our guts. Including the family's who's relatives got killed. Our meddling in the world will be our demise for sure. China is smart not to wage wars or have drones all over the place thus that will become the new super power. Eventually we will become a third world country with plenty of churches and war relics, but nothing else, but poor people ( the rich will be long gone to their estates elsewhere) Infrastructure is without money and has become a dirty word ; no more water in CA; more tornado's hurricanes etc. for we are not prepared The only thing to be proud of is all our lost money and lives in our wars and war tools and millions of veterans; forget the homeless for now. When is this country ever going to learn from previous mistakes? Right now they stay on this path to make things even worse.
  • Center Left
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    While campaigning Jeb was confronted by a young Democrat who stated that Jeb's older brother created ISIS by taking us into a useless war (redundant).
    Pedantic (good word)

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    I know this is not in line with the subject of the thread but it did have something to do with ISIS so I just posted it.

    Today on the news they said that Jeb has changed his mind about Iraq. PRICELESS !!!!!! The media was calling him
    "A Flip flopper" which is an irritating but often used term and the title makes Jeb look less polished, not as well prepared as he should have been.
    These campaigning snafu's are all we have to look forward to for the next 18 months.
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    TJ Wrote: I know this is not in line with the subject of the thread but it did have something to do with ISIS so I just posted it.

    Today on the news they said that Jeb has changed his mind about Iraq. PRICELESS !!!!!! The media was calling him
    "A Flip flopper" which is an irritating but often used term and the title makes Jeb look less polished, not as well prepared as he should have been.
    These campaigning snafu's are all we have to look forward to for the next 18 months.
    Yes , I'm now already sick of it; thank the "whatever" that I've got other hobby's.