jaredsxtn Wrote: I'm actually not surprised at all, but I believe the Taliban are not necessarily comparable to ISIS.The Taliban, for all of its countless faults, have actually governed territory for over two decades. They did harbor Al-Qaeda operatives in the lead up to 9/11, but the two groups are not one in the same. The Taliban also don't have visions of a grand Islamic State in the greater Middle-East. They seem to be quite content staying in Afghanistan and Pakistan.ISIS, on the other hand, doesn't really seem to have a governing policy other than slaughtering as many Shiites and Westerners as humanely possible. They would rather wage a limitless war than ever becoming a functioning governing body. And they also strive to gain as much land as they can.The two groups do share one thing in common though--their backwards and outdated vision of governance. Women are second class citizens and gays are put to death.I actually think this is more of a PR war of words than an actual declaration of war between the two groups. Iran separates the two sides and I seriously don't see ISIS trying to push through Iran in order to get to Taliban operatives in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And even if they did--the Pakistani military with all the American toys we provided them would give them more than a few problems.
lonely bird Wrote: Please let them kill each other and leave other people alone. And let's keep our distance from this mess for once.
Dutch Wrote: We will never learn; we are sending now "battle ships" to the Iran area; just to show how tough we are; lets irritate; that is our hobby I guess."Distance" ? No we poke our noses fully into it; let's create some more "hero"s and "veterans" we could use some more!!
jaredsxtn Wrote:Dutch Wrote: We will never learn; we are sending now "battle ships" to the Iran area; just to show how tough we are; lets irritate; that is our hobby I guess."Distance" ? No we poke our noses fully into it; let's create some more "hero"s and "veterans" we could use some more!! The Navy sending warships to the Gulf of Aden doesn't have much of anything to do with the fight between Al Qaeda and ISIS, but it does show how complex the wars in the region are becoming.I will argue that this isn't nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. America police's the worlds oceans. We have for many decades now. Our Navy has worked to ensure unrestricted free passage of goods from point A to point B and countless nations are dependent on that so they can conduct their business. I am actually fine with that. Having a country work to provide unrestricted access to the worlds oceans is a good thing. What I'm not fine with is fighting wars for sport.Look at the map of where the Navy's 5th Fleet is currently patrolling outside of Yemen. If Iran is given unrestricted access to that region then they can wreak havoc on the worlds economy. I don't know if any of us are ready for the potential economic catastrophe that might come from giving Iran unfettered access to waters far outside of their borders.The Navy is also there to prevent Iran from depositing arms shipments to the Iranian backed Yemeni rebels who now control large swaths of the country. Iran wouldn't dare attempt to break that blockade, so they are now in a game of cat and mouse. Iran wants to deliver the weapons and America won't let them. Who do you think will win in the end?
TJ Wrote: I know this is not in line with the subject of the thread but it did have something to do with ISIS so I just posted it.Today on the news they said that Jeb has changed his mind about Iraq. PRICELESS !!!!!! The media was calling him"A Flip flopper" which is an irritating but often used term and the title makes Jeb look less polished, not as well prepared as he should have been.These campaigning snafu's are all we have to look forward to for the next 18 months.