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  • Center Left Democrat
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    I was surprised to read on the History Channel site this morning that Congress had actually passed a law on this date (April 20) in 1871 that authorized President Ulysses S. Grant to declare martial law, impose heavy penalties against terrorist organizations, and use military force to suppress the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).

    Naturally, the Klan came back to life again in the 1920's, and again in the 1950's, and it's still exists today. It's now led by a Baptist minister named Thomas Robb.

    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ku-klux-act-passed-by-congress

    If you've read any of John Grisham's books, you'll notice that the KKK figures prominently in a lot of them, as does his most recent one, Sycamore Row.

    As I read the book, I was struck the fact that the KKK sounds an awful lot like The Tea Party, and link below provides more details:

    http://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2014/01/sycamore-row.html
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Arizona -- Yes as you pointed out, the KKK, the Tea Party and the John Birch Society share many of the same white supremacist ideologies. The Tea Party is ostensibly mostly libertarian but it's marriage with the Christian evangelicals makes it home to many KKK - John Birchers. However, there is one major difference. While many in the KKK are racist against African Americans, they are also anti-Semitic; but, on the other hand, the Evangelical community and Birchers are solidly behind Israel as a pure Jewish state. Of course, it's not that they endorse Judaism or Jews as an ethnic group, but rather they seek to preserve the "Land of Israel" for the Christian rapture and End Days prophecy.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    that guy in Arizona Wrote: I was surprised to read on the History Channel site this morning that Congress had actually passed a law on this date (April 20) in 1871 that authorized President Ulysses S. Grant to declare martial law, impose heavy penalties against terrorist organizations, and use military force to suppress the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).

    Naturally, the Klan came back to life again in the 1920's, and again in the 1950's, and it's still exists today. It's now led by a Baptist minister named Thomas Robb.
    Thanks for sharing Arizona. It's crazy to think that the Klan was virtually eliminated back in the late 1800's, but came roaring back to life during the tenure of Woodrow Wilson. He is widely believed to have been a member of the KKK, but no official documents have ever been found that would verify his membership. Regardless of his membership or not, he was an avowed racist who held a special screening of 'The Birth of a Nation' at the White House. He is quoted as saying that the movie was "like writing history with lightning, and my only regret is that it is all so terribly true."

    that guy in Arizona Wrote: As I read the book, I was struck the fact that the KKK sounds an awful lot like The Tea Party,

    I agree, but Schmidt brought up a great point about the main difference between the KKK and the Tea Party. Both are hate groups who want to force their beliefs on all of society, but the Tea Party is Israel's pawn while the KKK is not.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    that guy in Arizona Wrote: I was surprised to read on the History Channel site this morning that Congress had actually passed a law on this date (April 20) in 1871 that authorized President Ulysses S. Grant to declare martial law, impose heavy penalties against terrorist organizations, and use military force to suppress the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).

    Naturally, the Klan came back to life again in the 1920's, and again in the 1950's, and it's still exists today. It's now led by a Baptist minister named Thomas Robb.
    Thanks for sharing Arizona. It's crazy to think that the Klan was virtually eliminated back in the late 1800's, but came roaring back to life during the tenure of Woodrow Wilson. He is widely believed to have been a member of the KKK, but no official documents have ever been found that would verify his membership. Regardless of his membership or not, he was an avowed racist who held a special screening of 'The Birth of a Nation' at the White House. He is quoted as saying that the movie was "like writing history with lightning, and my only regret is that it is all so terribly true."
    that guy in Arizona Wrote: As I read the book, I was struck the fact that the KKK sounds an awful lot like The Tea Party,
    I agree, but Schmidt brought up a great point about the main difference between the KKK and the Tea Party. Both are hate groups who want to force their beliefs on all of society, but the Tea Party is Israel's pawn while the KKK is not.
    Jared you can name these people "Tea party" or not; to my feeling there is a lot of Nazi-ism in it as well; showing on how patriotic they are; waving a lot of flags and of course use "religion" as a tool to "fool" the gullible Americans as well get it their way. "Power over the people" via indoctrination and enriching yourself is the driver for any dictatorship, ask Hitler, Stalin and others like them.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Maybe a bit off topic but some of these have a familiar feel...

    14 Traits of Fascism
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    Ft.myers, FL
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    Schmidt Wrote: Maybe a bit off topic but some of these have a familiar feel...

    14 Traits of Fascism
    Schmidt, thanks; right on and absolute correct; wake up America.!!!
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    I recall from ken burns' "the civil war" the statement that Bedford Forrest joined the ink but quit when they became too violent even for him.

    Anyone who who says that confederate flags, battle or otherwise, are honoring a heritage is disingenuous at best. It is honoring a treasonous act that led to the destruction of hundreds of thousands of lives and resulted in Jim Crow, sanctioned lynchings and an on-going inability to resolve racial issues.

    anyone who is in the kkk is a gutless turd.
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    How quickly we forget how our democracy is hanging by a thread. Speaking of Fascism, we have a lot of it in the Republican Party, -- it is almost entirely taken over with many of the "listed" Fascist ideals. Remember David Duke (Republican candidate for President, from Louisiana)? He was BOTH a NEO-NAZI, and a grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. All the "Birds of a Feather" tend to flock together. There are so many "groups" of radical right-wingers nowadays that you can't even keep track of them all. Then you can't keep track of the multitudes of members who belong to all of these groups. And most of them probably keep their memberships a "secret". Of course our govt has undercover guys in some of those groups, but most of them really start to believe in it. Go figure.

    For many years the heavy Birch Society propaganda has infiltrated many areas of our govt, & our military. When George Bush Jr (#43) was President, no other radio or TV station was allowed (on Air Force One) except Fox News. So did anyone ever actually hear the TRUTH? (The Founding Fathers believed in hearing 2 sides to every story, & then intellectually deciding which side was true). But in the modern GOP, they hear only the "propaganda" spouted by Right Wing Fascist sources, & to hell with the truth. The Echo Chamber must never be disturbed. This goes for military guys working at the Pentagon, & even many of the Secret Service. That is why many of them are disloyal to the President. They have been brain-washed their whole life to be anti-liberal. John Birch ideology has been pervasive on TV & radio, & even infiltrated into newscasts & school text books, for 55 years. That is the poison that is destroying America.
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    eternal flame Wrote: How quickly we forget how our democracy is hanging by a thread. Speaking of Fascism, we have a lot of it in the Republican Party, -- it is almost entirely taken over with many of the "listed" Fascist ideals. Remember David Duke (Republican candidate for President, from Louisiana)? He was BOTH a NEO-NAZI, and a grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. All the "Birds of a Feather" tend to flock together. There are so many "groups" of radical right-wingers nowadays that you can't even keep track of them all. Then you can't keep track of the multitudes of members who belong to all of these groups. And most of them probably keep their memberships a "secret". Of course our govt has undercover guys in some of those groups, but most of them really start to believe in it. Go figure.

    For many years the heavy Birch Society propaganda has infiltrated many areas of our govt, & our military. When George Bush Jr (#43) was President, no other radio or TV station was allowed (on Air Force One) except Fox News. So did anyone ever actually hear the TRUTH? (The Founding Fathers believed in hearing 2 sides to every story, & then intellectually deciding which side was true). But in the modern GOP, they hear only the "propaganda" spouted by Right Wing Fascist sources, & to hell with the truth. The Echo Chamber must never be disturbed. This goes for military guys working at the Pentagon, & even many of the Secret Service. That is why many of them are disloyal to the President. They have been brain-washed their whole life to be anti-liberal. John Birch ideology has been pervasive on TV & radio, & even infiltrated into newscasts & school text books, for 55 years. That is the poison that is destroying America.
    Eternal, welcome back! Yes you always had this picture; I'm affraid you may be right; but how many Americans do care about that? It is more fun to play "hero" in all our wars than "think"; Arlington is a great place to "sleep" forever.