Schmidt Wrote: Cliven Bundy and his followers are a bunch of fools. They claim to be "sovereign citizens", that is they do not recognize he legitimacy of the US government. Yet they live off the government dime...everything should be free.
Schmidt Wrote: On this topic, the Southern Poverty Law Center has published a list of terrorist plots since OKC bombing by the "right"...you know the "real Americans" that consider themselves exceptional. Take a look at this list. There are no Muslim initiated acts of terror on this particular list, but if the SPLC were to publish such a list of acts of terror in the USA instigated in the name of Islam, then the list would quite short in comparison.SPLC: Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma CitySo frankly, I fear these crazies more than any Islamic extremist that might find his/her way to our shores. LOOK at the very looong list and tell me if you agree. I wonder why these don't get more publicity.
jaredsxtn Wrote:Schmidt Wrote: Cliven Bundy and his followers are a bunch of fools. They claim to be "sovereign citizens", that is they do not recognize he legitimacy of the US government. Yet they live off the government dime...everything should be free. Great point, Schmidt. Their hypocrisy is mind-boggling sometimes.
that guy in Arizona Wrote: eternal flame :I read " wrapped in the flag" in January, and was amazed at how closely the John Birch Society tracks with the Tea Party. The only possible conclusion you can draw after reading the book is the that Claire's parents were absolutely nuts, and that same description can easily apply to large numbers of the folks that belong to the Tea Party, starting with Ted Cruz Louie Gohmert, of course, isn't far behind, but Arizona has more that its share of wacky politicians:Here's one of them:http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?q=Sylvia+Allen+Church+Mandatory&w=100&h=100&c=1&rs=1&qlt=90&bw=1&bc=333333&pid=InlineBlock&mkt=en-US&adlt=moderate&t=1&mw=247Sylvia Allen believes that the world is only 6000 years old. She also believes that church attendance should be mandatory.
lonely bird Wrote: Cliven bundy and his ilk are symptomatic of much of "we the people." There is bleating of freedom with no definition. There is bleating of big government tyranny.However, like his fellow travelers he simply wants the government when he wants it as though it is phucquing genie that appears flow-blown with monies and material when needed yet lacks of those to things precisely because he and his fellow travelers refuse to pay for it.As for fascism the problem lies in language and parochial interests that wield language. Government is no more or less fascist, rather, authoritarian, than any other power center. When power is ceded the end result is authoritarian. Corporate authoritarian is as evil and unacceptable as state authoritarian. The same applies to blanket so-called freedom which devolves into charlatanism.bird's theorem is only half in jest."we the people" are stupid. Because we prefer narrative and simplistic nonsense to reality.