Dutch Wrote: Schmidt the huge problem is that stations like CNN invite these corrupt assholes all the time so they can convince the public that they run a "clean" show. That is how it works and nobody cares that we spent a TRILLION in Afghanistan; results unknown; guess what is wrong with this country?
Dutch Wrote: Excuses, excuses and of course "god's" will; and this "imaginary" thing "blesses" America?. You must be kidding!!
jaredsxtn Wrote:Dutch Wrote: Schmidt the huge problem is that stations like CNN invite these corrupt assholes all the time so they can convince the public that they run a "clean" show. That is how it works and nobody cares that we spent a TRILLION in Afghanistan; results unknown; guess what is wrong with this country?Results unknown?! I think we all know what the results of that conflict are. Maybe Bush could have turned Afghanistan into a success story if he didn't pull out most of our forces so we could play war with another country that didn't do anything to us at all.Dutch Wrote: Excuses, excuses and of course "god's" will; and this "imaginary" thing "blesses" America?. You must be kidding!!Of course God wanted us to invade a country for no reason other than to steal their oil. It's right there in the good book. Doesn't Jesus tell his followers to wage war on people who did absolutely nothing to us so we can plunder their land, slaughter tens of thousands of their citizens, and steal their natural resources?Back to Yemen though...this is a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Let them duke it out and see who wins. America has no stake in this fight and we don't need to send a single American soldier there to be a sitting duck between two sides engaging in a religious war.Is it of any surprise that America pulled out and Saudi Arabia went in? Just think if we did that in the rest of the Middle-East. Let the region figure out their disputes among themselves. We shouldn't let one more soldier die trying to play mediator between two warring factions in a religious civil war.
Dutch Wrote:jaredsxtn Wrote:Dutch Wrote: Schmidt the huge problem is that stations like CNN invite these corrupt assholes all the time so they can convince the public that they run a "clean" show. That is how it works and nobody cares that we spent a TRILLION in Afghanistan; results unknown; guess what is wrong with this country?Results unknown?! I think we all know what the results of that conflict are. Maybe Bush could have turned Afghanistan into a success story if he didn't pull out most of our forces so we could play war with another country that didn't do anything to us at all.Dutch Wrote: Excuses, excuses and of course "god's" will; and this "imaginary" thing "blesses" America?. You must be kidding!!Of course God wanted us to invade a country for no reason other than to steal their oil. It's right there in the good book. Doesn't Jesus tell his followers to wage war on people who did absolutely nothing to us so we can plunder their land, slaughter tens of thousands of their citizens, and steal their natural resources?Back to Yemen though...this is a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Let them duke it out and see who wins. America has no stake in this fight and we don't need to send a single American soldier there to be a sitting duck between two sides engaging in a religious war.Is it of any surprise that America pulled out and Saudi Arabia went in? Just think if we did that in the rest of the Middle-East. Let the region figure out their disputes among themselves. We shouldn't let one more soldier die trying to play mediator between two warring factions in a religious civil war. Jared; not quite correct ; your statement: Back to Yemen though...this is a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Let them duke it out and see who wins. America has no stake in this fight and we don't need to send a single American soldier there to be a sitting duck between two sides engaging in a religious war..... is not complete; we spent fortunes there in weapons and drones as well military assistance; these weapons are now in hands of the rebels. I guess you are forgetting that the U.S. meddles everywhere in the world where there is a conflict; that is our national decease. I can tell you right now that we keep doing that also in Yemen, but via the backdoor and Saudia. No we always poke our noses in everything and make the mess only bigger by our interference because we don't know the middle east and its etnic balances. We think we know it all; but don't. Of course our 999 generals and the Pentagon is proud of their record. Wow.
Schmidt Wrote: Oil is commodity traded on the world markets at market prices. It doesn't matter who produces it, the price remains what the market will bear for the quality of the crude with adjustments for transportation expenses. Yes, of course if a strategic supply like Saudi Arabia is curtailed or entirely shut-in by war, then prices will rise. But isn't that a good thing for the US consumer? Certainly the US oil producers would like that as it adds to their profit margin. However, low oil prices have given a boost to the economy, and many economists feel that's good. In the longer term it will hurt the oil sector, but that effect is more than offset by the beneficial effect on the rest of the economy.I agree with you on the fact that few Americans understand the basis of all the conflicts in the Middle East. For the war hawks in Congress all that matters is war. They are driven by the war profiteers. Without war profit motive there would be fewer wars.
TJ Wrote: Or your brother could learn to do something else. He might consider North Dakota. The crude/shale oil is a dirty mess. Money usually rules the world so it's production will continue and not slow down. The Saudi over production has seriously helped our economy and hurt Russia at the same time. I'm sorry that your brother and others have employment problems. This country has dealt with that for a very long time with manufacturing leaving for slave labor (bigger profits for the few) but wrecked lives for so damned many people. Our next financial crunch is probably the trillion dollars of student loan debt without matching jobs to pay for it. There are problems everywhere.
Dutch Wrote:TJ Wrote: Or your brother could learn to do something else. He might consider North Dakota. The crude/shale oil is a dirty mess. Money usually rules the world so it's production will continue and not slow down. The Saudi over production has seriously helped our economy and hurt Russia at the same time. I'm sorry that your brother and others have employment problems. This country has dealt with that for a very long time with manufacturing leaving for slave labor (bigger profits for the few) but wrecked lives for so damned many people. Our next financial crunch is probably the trillion dollars of student loan debt without matching jobs to pay for it. There are problems everywhere. Tony, yes that is a typical problem in a Capitalistic society; the one percent and greed rules. Lets attack some more countries that will keep the money flowing to the one percent; you can't make money on oil alone..