jaredsxtn Wrote: Less than a week after Benhamin Netanyahu's dangerous speech to Congress, his Republican pawns in the United States Senate have moved to do his bidding and sabotage the deal before it is even signed. This is dangerous in more ways than one, but the fact that sitting US Senators are openly and deliberately trying to sabotage an international agreement between all the major nations is unheard of in our nations history. It is not their job to negotiate international agreements and they are setting a very dangerous precedent in writing this letter.The fact that members of the United States Senate are so openly doing the bidding of another nations leader is scary. Their demands are carbon copy of Netanyahu's wholly unrealistic demands and can only be read as a prelude to war. They offer zero alternative other than complete capitulation, which anyone with a working brain understands will not happen. I don't know about you, but I am tired of my country and specifically the Republican Party, going to war as a first resort.Mr. Cotton and all the Senate Republicans who signed this letter need a lesson in US Civics. They don't control our nations foreign policy. Our President does.
johnnycee Wrote: My question is this ,is the fact true that the incoming President, can change or even nullify the deal, that to me is the crux of the matter.
Dutch Wrote: Jared; yes I saw on the news that the GOP did sent a letter to Iran as you said. Indeed this country is becoming the laughing stock of the world; like you said "who" is running this country?. It is time all these guys get jail time and this country uses only one policy and voice to the outside world and that should indeed be an official elected president not a bunch of indoctrinated idiots who have no clue about international politics. Totally absurd that something like that is possible. I hope and ........; ( can't say the word) that this government never get run again by the GOP or worse the Pentagon. My "vote" alone does not help much.
TJ Wrote: HRC blasted the letter today. I saw on CNN a (R) from Arizona (Sen. Jeff Flake) said how he didn't sign but wouldn't discuss behind the scenes discussions within the party. Flake said he sent his own letter to the POTUS to address his concerns. This guy sounded reasonable.
johnnycee Wrote: This is a legit question, can the next president change the terms or even nullify the terms of an agreement made by the previous President without the knowledge or the ratification/ certification of the Congress,
johnnycee Wrote: forget your patent talking point that I listen to or watch whatever show that you watch on Fox , because I don't for the umpthteeth time watch these shows that you watch,
johnnycee Wrote: Just respond to my question because I don't know , is there a marked difference between a treaty and an agreement.
jaredsxtn Wrote:Dutch Wrote: Jared; yes I saw on the news that the GOP did sent a letter to Iran as you said. Indeed this country is becoming the laughing stock of the world; like you said "who" is running this country?. It is time all these guys get jail time and this country uses only one policy and voice to the outside world and that should indeed be an official elected president not a bunch of indoctrinated idiots who have no clue about international politics. Totally absurd that something like that is possible. I hope and ........; ( can't say the word) that this government never get run again by the GOP or worse the Pentagon. My "vote" alone does not help much. Well, we can't throw every Republican representative in jail, but I do agree that they need to let the Executive Branch conduct foreign policy. Congress declares war and approves treaties. They don't get to conduct foreign policy.
johnnycee Wrote: We were discussing this agreement with deceit in our hearts and hoping that the Iranians would not notice it, Whether or not Congress is supposed to sanction this or not,it still does not mean that we enter into talks with deceit in mind from the start. I am certain Iran would not be in discussion with us if they had known that the agreement would only exist for less then 2 years, then all bets are off. Some call these Congressmen who signed this letter as traitors and liken their acts as treason,when in fact they were only shedding light on a possible untruth in these discussions that would affect the security of this Nation, along with other Nations, when the facts came out that we were not acting in good faith.
Dutch Wrote: Jared; I consider this treason; undermining the government system is the same as breaking the law of the land. If I go over the speed limit , I get a ticket.