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The death of Kayla Mueller

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  • Independent
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    I saw the emotional interview of the friends and family of Kayla on CNN. Sorry to say I was not impressed. As I said many times the US is an Island; girls like that who want to reform the world live in la la land. In her writing it shows a clear her come off; "It is "gods" will in her letters. Ridiculous. Also kids like that have no clue whatsoever about the world around us and just jump into something without any real "world" knowledge except what the church preaches. Sure she had a noble mind, but should have been educated by the outside world not the cozy US. A lone person like her never can reform the world; forget it and forget "god"

    The news here only is sensation and hype they love that; one persons death, they milk that all the way; deplorable. Sorry the arrogance that we are the "savior" of the world prevails and gets teached to young kids is sick. While our own objective is to "rule" the world and make money of it if we can.
  • Democrat
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    When civilian care givers go these countries they must be made aware of the danger that might be facing, not that this excuses their death, but they must take special precautions to ensure their own safety.I also don't believe they have anything to do with their own death nor are they any way responsible for it. They follow a particular vocation and they are to be commended for it, but if getting taken hostage or killed is not factored into their area off care giving then the assigner is partly to blame.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: I saw the emotional interview of the friends and family of Kayla on CNN. Sorry to say I was not impressed. As I said many times the US is an Island; girls like that who want to reform the world live in la la land. In her writing it shows a clear her come off; "It is "gods" will in her letters. Ridiculous. Also kids like that have no clue whatsoever about the world around us and just jump into something without any real "world" knowledge except what the church preaches. Sure she had a noble mind, but should have been educated by the outside world not the cozy US. A lone person like her never can reform the world; forget it and forget "god"

    The news here only is sensation and hype they love that; one persons death, they milk that all the way; deplorable. Sorry the arrogance that we are the "savior" of the world prevails and gets teached to young kids is sick. While our own objective is to "rule" the world and make money of it if we can.
    I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you here. If only every religious person were as compassionate and loving as she was. She was not in Syria to spread the word, but to help the people of Syria who are suffering terribly. She wasn't there to hand out Bibles, but to give a hand to a terrorized population suffering through this senseless civil war.

    It is acceptable to be an atheist and still respect a religious person who wants to help the weakest among us. My main problem with modern religion is the hatred and vitriol they spread while completely ignoring the words of their supposed savior who instructed them to care for the poor, feed the hungry, and love everyone. My main problem with modern religion is their hatred of people who don't look like them, talk like them, act like them, or have the audacity to believe in another God that wasn't invented a couple thousand years ago.

    I may not be religious, but I definitely respect Kayla. She gave her life up to go help the people whose lives were upended in Syria. If only every Christian actually were as compassionate as she was. I might actually have more respect for the religion if they were.
  • Center Left
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    I agree with you jared. It's very unfortunate that she was killed but it's not a surprise. She had been a hostage for a very long time. The chances of her ever being released were slim. As I have said before......... Get out of those countries or consider that you have a big target on your back. Also the USA won't be sending huge amounts of money or exchange terrorist in jail to get you released. She was a good kid in the wrong place.
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: I agree with you jared. It's very unfortunate that she was killed but it's not a surprise. She had been a hostage for a very long time. The chances of her ever being released were slim. As I have said before......... Get out of those countries or consider that you have a big target on your back. Also the USA won't be sending huge amounts of money or exchange terrorist in jail to get you released. She was a good kid in the wrong place.
    I am interested to see if we will ever find out if she was killed by ISIS or an airstrike by the Jordanians. I wouldn't blame the Jordanians because ISIS undoubtedly holds their hostages in areas that are prime targets for strikes, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they just decided to kill her themselves and blame the Jordanians for her death. These guys are seriously messed up and I wouldn't put it past them to do something as heinous as that.
  • Liberal
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    You guys already know what I'm going to say>.............................................CARPET BOMBING.

    MEXICO! MEXICO,,,,,Sorry, wrong war.....USA !USA! USA !USA
  • Democrat
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    You don't need to carpet bomb because but we do have in our bomb arsenal, the MOAB, ( massive -- air blast) the troops called it the Mother Of All Bombs, a 5,000 lb. monster that sucks all the air out of the given target which then causes a fire storm for close to an acre depending on the altitude that it detonates.. Drop a couple of them on a training camp and there goes the recruitment effort, right don the toliet.
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    johnnycee Wrote: When civilian care givers go these countries they must be made aware of the danger that might be facing, not that this excuses their death, but they must take special precautions to ensure their own safety.I also don't believe they have anything to do with their own death nor are they any way responsible for it. They follow a particular vocation and they are to be commended for it, but if getting taken hostage or killed is not factored into their area off care giving then the assigner is partly to blame.

    Well JC,
    Is someone is planning to do humanitarian work in the middle east. There should be one question on the application........ 1. Have you watched (and paid attention to) the news in the last 6 weeks ?
    Americans going into a war zone are just asking to be: - - - A. Kidnapped B. Killed C. Kidnapped - then killed.
    Those crazy Christians who were chased up onto the mountain by ISIS (in Iraq - about 6 weeks ago) are just asking for it if they are still there. Non-Muslim people should stay the hell away or they're going to end up dead. Hopefully they got the memo.
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    [url=https://www.democratichub.com/user/76635.aspx">Dutch[/url] Wrote: I saw the emotional interview of the friends and family of Kayla on CNN. Sorry to say I was not impressed. As I said many times the US is an Island; girls like that who want to reform the world live in la la land. In her writing it shows a clear her come off; "It is "gods" will in her letters. Ridiculous. Also kids like that have no clue whatsoever about the world around us and just jump into something without any real "world" knowledge except what the church preaches. Sure she had a noble mind, but should have been educated by the outside world not the cozy US. A lone person like her never can reform the world; forget it and forget "god"

    The news here only is sensation and hype they love that; one persons death, they milk that all the way; deplorable. Sorry the arrogance that we are the "savior" of the world prevails and gets teached to young kids is sick. While our own objective is to "rule" the world and make money of it if we can.



    I have to agree with you 100% Dutch. Most people don't want to hear the truth unfortunately. I'm sure she was a wonderful, loving, caring person and she certainly did not deserve to die but... What can one expect? A young wide eyed unsophisticated woman travels to all the most dangerous places in the world trying to save humanity! Anyone who would even consider doing and going where she did is, in reality, pretty delusional about life and their roll in it.

    I'm sorry, I know this will upset a lot of people but "facts is facts" as they say. And to quote a famous philosopher "you reap what you sow"
  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: I saw the emotional interview of the friends and family of Kayla on CNN. Sorry to say I was not impressed. As I said many times the US is an Island; girls like that who want to reform the world live in la la land. In her writing it shows a clear her come off; "It is "gods" will in her letters. Ridiculous. Also kids like that have no clue whatsoever about the world around us and just jump into something without any real "world" knowledge except what the church preaches. Sure she had a noble mind, but should have been educated by the outside world not the cozy US. A lone person like her never can reform the world; forget it and forget "god"

    The news here only is sensation and hype they love that; one persons death, they milk that all the way; deplorable. Sorry the arrogance that we are the "savior" of the world prevails and gets teached to young kids is sick. While our own objective is to "rule" the world and make money of it if we can.
    I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you here. If only every religious person were as compassionate and loving as she was. She was not in Syria to spread the word, but to help the people of Syria who are suffering terribly. She wasn't there to hand out Bibles, but to give a hand to a terrorized population suffering through this senseless civil war.

    It is acceptable to be an atheist and still respect a religious person who wants to help the weakest among us. My main problem with modern religion is the hatred and vitriol they spread while completely ignoring the words of their supposed savior who instructed them to care for the poor, feed the hungry, and love everyone. My main problem with modern religion is their hatred of people who don't look like them, talk like them, act like them, or have the audacity to believe in another God that wasn't invented a couple thousand years ago.

    I may not be religious, but I definitely respect Kayla. She gave her life up to go help the people whose lives were upended in Syria. If only every Christian actually were as compassionate as she was. I might actually have more respect for the religion if they were.
    Jared; I totally disagree with you; you should know better; however also Oregon is also far from this cruel world and you live there also very protected.
    I've got only one word for all these kids who are raised such way; sure it is "mind" wise an commendable effort, but awful NAIVE. That is inherent with this country; being naive of the outside world. In some of your threads it shows that you are also sometimes NAIVE about the outside world. Most of the time you have exellent comments about what is happening here, but if it is something outside the US you follow the news produced here, so you are also living on an island as well.
  • Independent
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    pgr Wrote:
    [url=https://www.democratichub.com/user/76635.aspx">Dutch[/url] Wrote: I saw the emotional interview of the friends and family of Kayla on CNN. Sorry to say I was not impressed. As I said many times the US is an Island; girls like that who want to reform the world live in la la land. In her writing it shows a clear her come off; "It is "gods" will in her letters. Ridiculous. Also kids like that have no clue whatsoever about the world around us and just jump into something without any real "world" knowledge except what the church preaches. Sure she had a noble mind, but should have been educated by the outside world not the cozy US. A lone person like her never can reform the world; forget it and forget "god"

    The news here only is sensation and hype they love that; one persons death, they milk that all the way; deplorable. Sorry the arrogance that we are the "savior" of the world prevails and gets teached to young kids is sick. While our own objective is to "rule" the world and make money of it if we can.



    I have to agree with you 100% Dutch. Most people don't want to hear the truth unfortunately. I'm sure she was a wonderful, loving, caring person and she certainly did not deserve to die but... What can one expect? A young wide eyed unsophisticated woman travels to all the most dangerous places in the world trying to save humanity! Anyone who would even consider doing and going where she did is, in reality, pretty delusional about life and their roll in it.

    I'm sorry, I know this will upset a lot of people but "facts is facts" as they say. And to quote a famous philosopher "you reap what you sow"
    PGR, I'm glad you understand; the population here is kept NAIVE about the real outside world; likely they never learn about the real world in school; neither about on how wars start or who is the real culprit in any area of the world; she got killed by "friendly fire" which saved her head. Sorry most people here are awful naive about wars; they only hype it up and adore it; the more bombs and fire works and Rambo's the better; the far from my bed show for sure.

    I like to add as well; if kids want to do "welfare" why in Syria, when plenty of that is needed here; like in West Virginia or other "poor" area's; plenty of places in the US are comparable to "poor" places in the middle east, so start at "home" before wandering of for adventures for the sake of adventure.
  • Independent
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    On the news, Obama wants to expand this "war" he'll suggest now to involve "troops"; again an additional cost for us; ISIS is smart; the more money spent by us the more we "bleed" because money drives us; so the'll fight us that way. They love it when we get drawn in deeper; we are the suckers for sure.
  • Liberal
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    MR> PGR

    Correct. But why be concerned what others may think of you in this forum.? The truth is the truth. And her wanting to go to the most dangerous region in the world (ALONE) is most definitely a FACTOR.
    People are 100 % percent responsible for their own safety.....Especially when you CHOOSE to go their. You better know what you're getting yourself into.
    Consequences of our decisions.

    Dead is dead. This is what I aways try to convey. Does is ultimately really matter how? These young kids don't get it. Naive to what people are. Some say that living is the tragedy
  • Liberal
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    Don't worry LA that's just a expression! Like you and Dutch I say what I believe if people don't accept it or understand what I'm saying that's life, in fact, if too many people agreed with me I'd have to rethink my position!
  • Center Left
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    I saw a very interesting interview on PBS late last night. The host was Charlie Rose and I don't know the name of the guy being interviewed....(I think he mentioned that he went to Princeton). He said something very interesting. He said the US should get out of Iraq and Syria, that it is not our problem. He was an expert on ISIS and he said it's the middle east's problem and that we should let them deal with it. If I could find it, I would post a link to a video of the interview but not knowing the guys name makes that tough to find.