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Captured Jordanian pilot burned alive by ISIS

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    BBC News, February 3, 2015: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    "A video published online by Islamic State (IS) militants claims to show Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh being burned alive. The video, which could not immediately be verified, shows a man standing in a cage and engulfed in flames."

    It would seem that ISIS is stepping up their propaganda campaign of fear.
  • Center Left
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    This kind of story drives me crazy. Totally inhumane people showing how low they are. I would order more missiles/bombs and I would use them all. Scum like this needs flushed down the toilet.
    I just read a related story on the internet. It said this pilot may have been killed a month ago. Note: when ISIS wanted a prisoner exchange to get a female suicide bomber in prison in Jordan...... Jordan asked for proof the pilot was still alive. That was never provided. Today's video may have been 95% special effects.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    The video is reported by some media sources to be highly professionally done, quite graphic and grisly. It shows the Jordanian pilot wearing an orange jumpsuit and standing in an outdoor cage, whereupon a masked militant lights a line of fuel leading to the cage. He is burned alive in the video.

    The message is obviously directed at Jordanians, presumably to drive a wedge between Jordan and America in their war against ISIS. Will Jordanian pilots continue to fly missions against ISIS?
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    This is sickening, but I have a feeling it will have the opposite effect. Jordan would look weak and scared if they bowed down now, but it really is a lose-lose for King Abdullah. Pulling out of the war against ISIS would make him look weak, but much of his country is adamantly opposed to being involved in the war and want nothing more than to not be involved. My guess is that he will eventually decide to stay with the collation.
  • Liberal
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    I've often thought to myself about why no data exists about Iraqi, Iranian, Israeli soldiers not really having cases of PTSD. Maybe there is and just not reported. But i have come to believe that they really don't suffer PTSD because they understand violence. They understand vengance. they understand bloodshed. It has become so normal there and has become the status quo. Tribal wars, sectarian wars, wars over who's goat got stolen 500 years ago.............The Quran basically is a book aout WAR.

    Now, I know Jordan will repond accordingly....they get it. There's gonna be some serious killing going on behind the scenes. As it should be. You take one of their kids, they take two of yours., These are the rules to which they have played by for centuries.
    Recently I stated that the middle east....all of the middle east..... should be held responsible for taking out their own garbage....Maybe this is the start of it.
    You cannot allow savages another breathe on planet earth.....imo
  • Democrat
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    Jordan does have an existing cell of terrorists in their own country,it will be interesting to see what the King does as he, unlike America, need not get permission from a Congress, there will be an escalation on Jordon's part as his subjects are screaming for vengeance in an area that thrives on vengeance based conflicts,if the King takes too long or worse,does nothing, expect a ground swell of civil unrest.
  • Liberal
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    I believe Jordan has governance, structure and basically allow their people some functional stability....There's no cells operating in Jordan because there would be "heads" rolling around the street.
    ISIS sems to only control parts of the dessert where there's no law, no government, no nothing...this is the only reason they're thriving....theres nobody out there to stop them...SO AGAIN...carpet bomb those locations with thousands upon thousands of bombs leaving nothing but Olympic swimming pool sized craters.
    This isn't the seventies anymore....we have things in the "tool box" that could easily accomplish this.

    They're going to die at the hands of something or another. That I'm confident about. Does it really matter who and how? Dead is dead. As I have repeatedly stated....you can kill them all at once...or kill them all over a period of many years......I think they've made it very clear that they plan to stick around..... on their terms......They don't want education, they don't want skinny jeans, they dont want Taco bell, nor the seahawks.....THEY WANT THE 12TH CENTURY.

    Many of you refuse to accept that? There is no changing them.....This is it my friends. I want to give them the 12 th century......I believe we should assist people in reaching their ultimate goals......If this is how you want to play....I would love to give you all the "playing".you desire.
    It's funny....some people just have to "feel it"....hard headed.

    Thieir embolden in their ways because the US ctitizen is basically a coward...........We want to see BRUCE JENNER become a woman...on televesion. We have to see him grow tits or we're not happy......we've become so disconnected and (ABOVE) everyone else that "violence isn't the answer.....BUT WE'LL LINE UP TO SEE CHICKS WITH DICKS.
    we want everyone to be "CIVIL" and "DOCILE"......so the coward citizen will allow measles to go un-vaccinated because here in America we're above the rest of you.....we allow children to be infected with viruses because we're pussies.....we don't want to offend anyone....We're tolerant.
    I'm not that liberal....we've got 3rd graders going to sleep hungry with drug addicted parents (inluding religios addiction).....and we got people here that want their weenies cut off because thats "who" they really are, and we embrace it while kids don't eat.........no sir....This country should never defend that position. There has to balance in anything for it to work.....and sometime that requires DICIPLINE.
    I will never defend an America that thinks that people should do what they want...when they want......... BALANCE
    tHATS NOT LIBERALISM...THATS SELFISH GLUTTONY
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    What all of this really boils down to is one simple fact--the Middle East, and Muslims in general, have to figure this out themselves. Will they have an 'Age of Enlightenment' or slaughter each other to the point of extinction? The Western world will not be able to decide this for them. This is something the Muslim world is going to have to figure out themselves.
  • Democrat
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    It's being reported on the network news shows that Jordan has now executed two ISIS prisoners by hanging as a response to what the terrorist did to their pilot, and so it begins!!
  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: What all of this really boils down to is one simple fact--the Middle East, and Muslims in general, have to figure this out themselves. Will they have an 'Age of Enlightenment' or slaughter each other to the point of extinction? The Western world will not be able to decide this for them. This is something the Muslim world is going to have to figure out themselves.
    I guess people do not understand the "purpose" of this. It is purely to draw us in further then we already are; it is costing us already fortunes every day we engage them. They make us broke on purpose; their lives don't count, so they don't care about loss of life. But we are the suckers in the end and lose fortunes without getting anything back except ruins in those countries affected. After we finally erradicate them, then again we have give these countries "aid" to rebuilt ,so the money keeps flowing in that direction, instead of being spent here, for roads, rail, the poor and development. Thus an un-ending saga on which we are on the loosing end of the stick.
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    If burning someone alive for the sole purpose of attempting to draw us further into this war, well, they got not just our attention but pretty much the worlds attention, I will be looking for an increase in some type of co-operation between nations to eradicate this barbaric group..
  • Liberal
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    Dutch Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote: What all of this really boils down to is one simple fact--the Middle East, and Muslims in general, have to figure this out themselves. Will they have an 'Age of Enlightenment' or slaughter each other to the point of extinction? The Western world will not be able to decide this for them. This is something the Muslim world is going to have to figure out themselves.
    I guess people do not understand the "purpose" of this. It is purely to draw us in further then we already are; it is costing us already fortunes every day we engage them. They make us broke on purpose; their lives don't count, so they don't care about loss of life. But we are the suckers in the end and lose fortunes without getting anything back except ruins in those countries affected. After we finally erradicate them, then again we have give these countries "aid" to rebuilt ,so the money keeps flowing in that direction, instead of being spent here, for roads, rail, the poor and development. Thus an un-ending saga on which we are on the loosing end of the stick.
    Sorry Dutch
    Most of our citizenry are a bunch of self righteouss cowards...nobody in my family or the family of friends have ever invaded anyone. Don't group me in this bunch........ change comes from the bottom up. But again, we're cowards. many in this country (cowards) were actually concerned if the woman in Jordan was executed humanely......That wasn't a "VERA WANG" vest she was wearing......they should have set her on fire. Period

    Correct...their lives don't count. Get out and let them all murder each other in the name of Ali Baba......I would gladly watch this holy war on cable televsion strictly for my enjoyment....sorry, "civil american coward" we would have to cancel Bruce Jenner's "weenie removal" on the E Channel.......The american coward would go crazy......Like I said earlier...."we want to see a man grow tits in this country" and remove his balls...ON TELEVISION.......and we embrace that.
    America may even want to help him/her or it...pick out eye shadow and panties for "HIM".... so that we all can participate.......Yes sIr....America the beautiful.....where your child can catch the measles in a public school because the Smith family had a conversation with Jesus....
    Littl Billy can kill another child because I matter....my opinion means something.....

    This planet is a goddamn joke......When will Jesus hand over the reigns to the rabbits and antelopes???? maybe they'll get it right.
  • Center Left
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    JC and L.A.,
    I agree. It's nobodies first choice to get further involved. However...... sometimes you see an asshole who just needs to get his ass kicked. That's what we have here. These are uncivil jerks who kill the captured / weak and put it on social media. They serve no good purpose at all. In my opinion, they are breathing air that should be for other human beings. I hope they continue to get punished and beaten down until they cry out for mercy. At that moment....... put a bullet in their head and remind them of the beheadings and the pilot who was burned to death.
    Dutch,
    I know that you hate all combat issues that we get involved with. As crazy as this world has become...... expect it to continue. If you want to avoid it....... I suggest The Canary Islands, American Samoa, or Canada. Otherwise it's going to be here for a long while. Just my opinion. Also, avoid the newspapers, the evening news, and internet news sites. Those will just give you more of the same.
  • Liberal
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: JC and L.A.,
    I agree. It's nobodies first choice to get further involved. However...... sometimes you see an asshole who just needs to get his ass kicked. That's what we have here. These are uncivil jerks who kill the captured / weak and put it on social media. They serve no good purpose at all. In my opinion, they are breathing air that should be for other human beings. I hope they continue to get punished and beaten down until they cry out for mercy. At that moment....... put a bullet in their head and remind them of the beheadings and the pilot who was burned to death.
    Dutch,
    I know that you hate all combat issues that we get involved with. As crazy as this world has become...... expect it to continue. If you want to avoid it....... I suggest The Canary Islands, American Samoa, or Canada. Otherwise it's going to be here for a long while. Just my opinion. Also, avoid the newspapers, the evening news, and internet news sites. Those will just give you more of the same.
    Funny,
    I've been calling for the complete eradication of these "magic carpet genies" for a long time and many in this forum have called me a savage...... in shock by my comments.....but the king of Jordan just announced that he wants all of them dead...and now, everyone is saying "stay out of it" "let them handle it".
    He understands his own people. These are their ways....forever. And since I don't worship a magic carpet,...I have no oil, and definitely not part of any royal noble family.....my comments were just outrageous.
    Humans kill each other. Better find a new solar system if you think any different. There's no cure for this condtion. We are animals. Lions do not live with Bears. Bears do not live with coyotes, coyotes can't live with rabbits.......You're dreaming if you believe in a successful melting pot society. We have been tribal from the very start.......Lets seperate tribes. We cannot live together. We've shown that.
    They give Americans gadgets, lots of food and entertainment to distract us from what we really are.....savages and animals. Our natural selves reveal what we really are....so we create churches and charities when we feel guilty about the hatred that we all share about each other....and then pass laws to restrict us from our true ways......when that doesn't work.....then we bomb people.....This cycle has repeated itself in all cultures since the beginning.

    Any person that does not or refuses to accept this is a dreamer.....I only suggest that we get on with it. Stop making excuses..and most definitely, stop lying to ourselves. We are not civil....we're insane......humans are unable to appreciate anything....we are worse than cancer. The joke is on us.
    I'm just hear for the entertainment value before I check out. I sit back, smoke a fatty....and enjoy the show.