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MMR problems are worst in 20 years

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  • Center Left
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    A stupid Brit. suggested that the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccine could cause Autism. That was enough to get a lot of parents to not have their child or children immunized. The study was eventually discredited and the guy was labeled a Quack. However many years later we have a lot of children who are not protected. And who knows......... Maybe they'll end up at Disney - YIKES - Kids coming down with measles have parents trying to take them to the doctors. Doctors don't want to see them afraid that they will contaminate many more people. It's a big problem started by a study that was just all bad info.
    Mississippi has over 99% of their children vaccinated. Colorado is the opposite extreme with just over 81% vaccinated.

    http://www.vox.com/2015/2/2/7965885/the-research-linking-autism-to-vaccines-is-even-more-terrible-than
  • Liberal
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    Mr Tony
    I had this same argument with an old friend of mine (6 months ago). Graduated in businness from USC and refuses to get his kids vaccinated. Home schooled of course. His wife went off the deep end with church...and he won't fight her...... It's the craziest shit I've seen any of my fiends do. He made these same arguments we're hearing today. I told him....Homie, that's child abuse in my opinion....I still can't believe it. He got mad at me.
    She won't allow their kids to watch the Disney channel because Disney supports gays.....I thought they were joking initially.
    I asked my friend.."what the hell happened to you since I've been gone"

    He tried to tell me that I don't know shit....I was like..."you're right" but what about the medical experts?? Talking about it's a conspiracy. I don't get it.
    The very reason they call me Archie Bunker is the very reason I agree with them....Stay away from me....please.
  • Liberal
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    Have faith LA - God shall protect us (if we have faith, otherwise we're SOL)
  • Independent
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    pgr Wrote: Have faith LA - God shall protect us (if we have faith, otherwise we're SOL)
    Since all these "religious" freaks breed like rabbits ( like the Pope himself said) one kid or more lost does not put a "dent" into the added "souls" for the church.
    Thus in other "words"; the "catholic god" protects the church; not people; hypocrites flourish in that bussiness.
  • Center Left
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    Immunizations work and they do not cause Autism. 20 years ago it was sort of like Polio. The disease was beaten. There were close to zero cases each year. This British dumbass said it leads to Autism and parents got freaked out. The guy was discredited. He was found to have screwed with all of the data. The British govt. took away his medical license......... but the seed had been planted and parents were/are afraid of Autism. Sanjay Gupta said on CNN that immunizations work and they don't cause Autism. Problem is, we don't know what causes autism but it isn't immunizations. Now we have 102 cases of measles in 14 states. This being a condition that was virtually eliminated 20 years ago.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Vox, February 3, 2015: Rand Paul says he’s heard of vaccines leading to “profound mental disorders” in children

    Following Chris Christie's statement in London about parent's choice in vaccinations, Rand Paul doubled down on his long held beliefs:

    "On Monday, Sen. Rand Paul said that he'd heard of "many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines"" .

    Buzzfeed: Rand Paul Was Longtime Member Of Group That Promoted Autism-Vaccines Link

    And then there's Sean Hannity proclaiming in typical Hannity fashion: "I'm Not Trusting President Obama To Tell Me Whether To Vaccinate My Kids"

    Is this going to be another Republican talking point for the next election..."freedom of choice" in children's vaccinations? The conspiracy theorists have cut across party lines here with those on both the right and left citing the falsehood that vaccinations cause autism.
  • Center Left
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    I hope intelligent people keep stating the obvious. If possible, the repubs will look even more stupid. Rand Paul is a freaking doctor. Trying to turn a sickness into something you can use politically is sick.
  • Democrat
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    I am of the mind set that if parents chose to not vaccinate their kids that's all well and good but there is a price that might have to be paid and that is giving fair warning to other parents that do vaccinate their kids, so if the child has an immunity issue the parents can take the appropriate measures to ensure their child's safety, and if a public school allows a un-vaccinated child to be taught there then the school should make that policy known or other wise pay for the medical bills that might follow. The school could separate the Kindergarten and pre-kid and pre-school nursery from the rest of the student body as these are the most at risk children.
  • Independent
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: I hope intelligent people keep stating the obvious. If possible, the repubs will look even more stupid. Rand Paul is a freaking doctor. Trying to turn a sickness into something you can use politically is sick.
    I guess you should know by now that they use anything and everything to get it their way; like you said "sickness", "religion" the "army","science", "education" your "tax money"; the Koch brothers etc; ask "eternal" I sincerely hope we can prevent these nutheads from getting into the White House.
  • Liberal
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Tony Johnson Wrote: I hope intelligent people keep stating the obvious. If possible, the repubs will look even more stupid. Rand Paul is a freaking doctor. Trying to turn a sickness into something you can use politically is sick.
    I guess you should know by now that they use anything and everything to get it their way; like you said "sickness", "religion" the "army","science", "education" your "tax money"; the Koch brothers etc; ask "eternal" I sincerely hope we can prevent these nutheads from getting into the White House.
    Dutch,

    Again...there's no need for constantly having to repeat yourself in educating the Smith Family.
    You look at the kid's immunization record (Little Billy)....Oh oh, Little billy hasnt been vaccinated for MMR. You knock at the door to of the Smith family home.
    You give the Smith family (parents) 3 days to immunize their child.....In 3 days you come back to check again.....No MMR....Hmmmmm,.... Mommy and Daddy take an ass whoooping ( a good one) outside... right there on the lawn for all the neighbors to see......You tell the Smith family you shall return again in 3 days......thats how you solve problems...thats how you protect kids in school from disease. A liitle insentive....you will have a percentage of people who need a liitle "NUDGE" every once in a while.....theres always that 2-3 percent that want to do it there way.....Guess what....public health is non-negotiable
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    Tony Johnson Wrote: I hope intelligent people keep stating the obvious. If possible, the repubs will look even more stupid. Rand Paul is a freaking doctor. Trying to turn a sickness into something you can use politically is sick.
    I guess you should know by now that they use anything and everything to get it their way; like you said "sickness", "religion" the "army","science", "education" your "tax money"; the Koch brothers etc; ask "eternal" I sincerely hope we can prevent these nutheads from getting into the White House.
    Dutch,

    Again...there's no need for constantly having to repeat yourself in educating the Smith Family.
    You look at the kid's immunization record (Little Billy)....Oh oh, Little billy hasnt been vaccinated for MMR. You knock at the door to of the Smith family home.
    You give the Smith family (parents) 3 days to immunize their child.....In 3 days you come back to check again.....No MMR....Hmmmmm,.... Mommy and Daddy take an ass whoooping ( a good one) outside... right there on the lawn for all the neighbors to see......You tell the Smith family you shall return again in 3 days......thats how you solve problems...thats how you protect kids in school from disease. A liitle insentive....you will have a percentage of people who need a liitle "NUDGE" every once in a while.....theres always that 2-3 percent that want to do it there way.....Guess what....public health is non-negotiable
    Sorry; I was talking about our politicians (Rand Paul) who use this again as a tool; as reply on Tony's thread. Not the Smith family for sure or immunization.
  • Liberal
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    [url=https://www.democratichub.com/user/78196.aspx">johnnycee[/url] Wrote: I am of the mind set that if parents chose to not vaccinate their kids that's all well and good but there is a price that might have to be paid and that is giving fair warning to other parents that do vaccinate their kids, so if the child has an immunity issue the parents can take the appropriate measures to ensure their child's safety, and if a public school allows a un-vaccinated child to be taught there then the school should make that policy known or other wise pay for the medical bills that might follow. The school could separate the Kindergarten and pre-kid and pre-school nursery from the rest of the student body as these are the most at risk children.


    JC, once again you manage to be on the wrong side of a problem. You really do need to start think a bit more!
  • Liberal
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    pgr Wrote:
    [url=https://www.democratichub.com/user/78196.aspx">johnnycee[/url] Wrote: I am of the mind set that if parents chose to not vaccinate their kids that's all well and good but there is a price that might have to be paid and that is giving fair warning to other parents that do vaccinate their kids, so if the child has an immunity issue the parents can take the appropriate measures to ensure their child's safety, and if a public school allows a un-vaccinated child to be taught there then the school should make that policy known or other wise pay for the medical bills that might follow. The school could separate the Kindergarten and pre-kid and pre-school nursery from the rest of the student body as these are the most at risk children.


    JC, once again you manage to be on the wrong side of a problem. You really do need to start think a bit more!
    I responded to Dutch mistakenly....but the answer is the same......You take Mommy and Daddy outside for some "physical" therapy. (AN ASS WHOOPING)
    I don't need to be notified....they need to vaccinate their children.....It's a PUBLIC SCHOOL...PUBLIC.
    Make it a community event.....A public ass whooping from your next door neighbors.....we'll sell cup cakes, have the band playing, cheer leaders....WHAT A SHOW OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

    there are some things in life not negotiable....A childs medical (preventable) safety is one of them. This isn't hard people. People should have all the choices they desire when ordering a hamburger.....NOT THIS.
    Sometimes...the answer to everything is right there in front of our noses.
  • Center Left
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    L.A.,
    You are right. This shouldn't be a choice. I heard a mother on the news yesterday. She was very worried for her child. Her child has Cystic Fibrosis so she can't do the immunization. Therefore, all the parents who chose not to immunize simply because they are dumb asses, endanger her child. Doctors who don't want to contaminate their other patients should refuse to see or treat kids who are sick because their parents are stupid.
  • Liberal
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: L.A.,
    You are right. This shouldn't be a choice. I heard a mother on the news yesterday. She was very worried for her child. Her child has Cystic Fibrosis so she can't do the immunization. Therefore, all the parents who chose not to immunize simply because they are dumb asses, endanger her child. Doctors who don't want to contaminate their other patients should refuse to see or treat kids who are sick because their parents are stupid.
    People here in this country truly believe that they can do anything they want...ANYTHING....and that the rest of us should just eat shit. Everybody feels that their individual choices should not only be respected...but embraced even if it's at the expense of someone else.
    Again.....a public ass whooping would cut through all the resistance and red tape........A simple knock at the door from your local elementary school "immunization enforcement officer" ( a voluntary position of course, made up from your neighbors with children attending the same school)
    A service that would cost no money.