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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Al Jazeera, January 25, 2015: Hollywood shoots Arabs: The movie

    The movie American Sniper has been the subject of considerable debate in social media. It is a Clint Eastwood Hollywood depiction of Chris Kyle, the American Sniper who had 255 "kills" during his tours of duty in Iraq. Whatever you want to read into it...from patriotic fervor to the victims of war, there is one theme that seems to be largely unchallenged by the media and the folks in Hollywood that bestow Oscars and other honors on the film. It is highly racist against Arabs and Muslims.

    Khaled A BeydouN and Abed Ayoub, authors of the above Al Jazeera opinion article , pointed to the racism theme of the movie:

    "In "American Sniper", Iraqis are nothing more than fodder and foes, whom Chris Kyle is hell bent on gunning down to carry forward a parasitic patriotism that a robust segment of the US is not only drawn to, but also committed to perpetuating. Every single Iraqi in the film is presumed guilty. And thus, deserving of the twisted justice Kyle is more than willing to dish out, over and again.

    "While the familiar misrepresentations on the screen are damaging, the racist backlash inspired by "American Sniper" evidences that the film is equipping hatemongers with even more ammunition. And the targets are Arabs and Muslims, "ragheads" and anybody resembling the Iraqi caricatures in "American Sniper".

    "Like scores of films before it, "American Sniper" conflates Iraqis with Arabs and Muslims, "al-Qaeda" and "jihadists". For Kyle, and Eastwood, the distinctions are irrelevant. Redeploying age-old Orientalist images, the film's Iraqis are thinly constructed foes of the democratic and divine - who must be methodically gunned down for both God and country. A belief, in the US today, that is far more fact than fiction."


    The film is doing very well at the box office, capitalizing on the anti-Islamic fervor of a large part of the American psyche. The authors note how it has given rise to another wave of hate speech as evidenced by twitter postings and such. It would seem that Hollywood is doing their part to promote hate. But Best Picture? It depends I suppose on your view.
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    Schmidt Wrote: Al Jazeera, January 25, 2015: Hollywood shoots Arabs: The movie

    The movie American Sniper has been the subject of considerable debate in social media. It is a Clint Eastwood Hollywood depiction of Chris Kyle, the American Sniper who had 255 "kills" during his tours of duty in Iraq. Whatever you want to read into it...from patriotic fervor to the victims of war, there is one theme that seems to be largely unchallenged by the media and the folks in Hollywood that bestow Oscars and other honors on the film. It is highly racist against Arabs and Muslims.

    Khaled A BeydouN and Abed Ayoub, authors of the above Al Jazeera opinion article , pointed to the racism theme of the movie:

    "In "American Sniper", Iraqis are nothing more than fodder and foes, whom Chris Kyle is hell bent on gunning down to carry forward a parasitic patriotism that a robust segment of the US is not only drawn to, but also committed to perpetuating. Every single Iraqi in the film is presumed guilty. And thus, deserving of the twisted justice Kyle is more than willing to dish out, over and again.

    "While the familiar misrepresentations on the screen are damaging, the racist backlash inspired by "American Sniper" evidences that the film is equipping hatemongers with even more ammunition. And the targets are Arabs and Muslims, "ragheads" and anybody resembling the Iraqi caricatures in "American Sniper".

    "Like scores of films before it, "American Sniper" conflates Iraqis with Arabs and Muslims, "al-Qaeda" and "jihadists". For Kyle, and Eastwood, the distinctions are irrelevant. Redeploying age-old Orientalist images, the film's Iraqis are thinly constructed foes of the democratic and divine - who must be methodically gunned down for both God and country. A belief, in the US today, that is far more fact than fiction."


    The film is doing very well at the box office, capitalizing on the anti-Islamic fervor of a large part of the American psyche. The authors note how it has given rise to another wave of hate speech as evidenced by twitter postings and such. It would seem that Hollywood is doing their part to promote hate. But Best Picture? It depends I suppose on your view.
    This shows how sick this country has become; like what was already said: A Nazi like propaganda film about our "cowards" . How could someone like that be a "hero"; first of all invade a country which never attacked us and then shoot and kill people who you never met or did you harm. Murder remains murder also if you don't do it at "home" . If you invade countries, do people really think here they will not defend themselves? Also this guy was a real coward; shooting people from a distance; the same we do with our drones. A deplorable movie for sure; but of course the "warmongers and militaristic lovers" majority will love it as a promotional propaganda film. Heil Hitler indeed.
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    I was initially going to see the movie but I've come to understand that "this sniper" was telling some big "whoppers' to his friends.
    Guys...I go the movies for one reason...ENTERTAINMENT
    It's either the movies or listening to my wife's nonsense....I pick the movies.

    And yes, my wife is a Christian. go figure. in church every Sunday......She married the ANTI-CHRIST
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    Hey LA, my wife is a (nominal) Christian and she teaches Jewish religion in a temple. Go figure!

    Just for the record, she is actually no more a "believer" than I but, unlike me, she would never rock the boat (or the Ark) ;)
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    Funny how we all have a similar situation. I believe in theory but I don't think the book is literal at all. My wife on the other hand prays with pgr, Dutch, and L.A..
    And we are all as happy as kids with cookies.

    Sorry, American Sniper.........back on topic. It made more money in it's first 10 days than any other R rated movie - ever. According to the news.
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    is anyone surprised at how well it has done at the box office?

    is anyone surprised at how the iraqis are portrayed?

    is anyone surprised that jihadists and arabs are conflated whether in this movie or in american media?

    is anyone surprised that mr. kyle views iraqis in the manner the authors of the referenced article claim, if the claim is accurate?

    go back and look at americans are getting dumber and tribalism is replacing nationalism.

    your answers lie there. and in the virulent and 100% fatal infection called exceptionalism.
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: Funny how we all have a similar situation. I believe in theory but I don't think the book is literal at all. My wife on the other hand prays with pgr, Dutch, and L.A..
    And we are all as happy as kids with cookies.

    Sorry, American Sniper.........back on topic. It made more money in it's first 10 days than any other R rated movie - ever. According to the news.
    No one prays in my house; except if the hammer falls on my toe; then I say in Dutch : "God verdomme" also my wife "beliefs" only in her hairdresser; but not all the time. Sorry "cookies" crumble; so I get shit all the time. But still enjoy life in whatever form; it beats death anytime.
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    Of course I was referencing that she completely agrees with you. Asks the question: If there's a powerful god..... why do they let so many suffer so much.
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    lonely bird Wrote: is anyone surprised at how well it has done at the box office?

    is anyone surprised at how the iraqis are portrayed?

    is anyone surprised that jihadists and arabs are conflated whether in this movie or in american media?

    is anyone surprised that mr. kyle views iraqis in the manner the authors of the referenced article claim, if the claim is accurate?

    go back and look at americans are getting dumber and tribalism is replacing nationalism.

    your answers lie there. and in the virulent and 100% fatal infection called exceptionalism.
    Again...it's an endless circle.... debate on this issue can go on-and-on.
    20 years ago in this country I was able to go to an airport, go through one metal detector, get on a plane and go about my merry way. I was able to walk into any stadium, building (federal or state) without being shaken down, asked for a valid form of ID
    and frisked like I was an alter boy at the Vatican. There were not laws (patriot act) that severely expanded police powers by the state.

    All this shit in response to idiots that dwell in the 12th century. Insignificant or not....our lives have been effected by this war about "who's spooky is better"
    Enough is enough. You don't arrest, you don't educate, you don't tolerate.....and definitely ....don't use my money in doing so.
    You terminate, eliminate, and eradicate. I...as many...don't give a shit what anyone does on their own time, in their own country and with their own money.
    But that wasn't good enough for the mystical idiots that want to effect my life (however insignificant you may think it is)
    Take them out back and shoot them. We don't have time for this shit on earth anymore. HOW LONG MUST HUMANITY KEEP ON THIS PATH OF COMPLETE STUPIDITY.
    It is not my job to teach people manners. I DON'T TOLERATE LOONIES. Again, I don't care what people do.....but keep it off my block.
    We have had 2500 years of this insanity.....time for some spring cleaning. Time for something new....time for change,.
    In the 1970's South America had a problem with street gangs....these guys were robbing, murdering and destroying the private property of street merchants. You know...a thorn in the side of public interest. Amazing, they solved the problem overnight. Death squads. They got fed up....and the merchants helped pick up the tab.
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    lonely bird Wrote: is anyone surprised at how well it has done at the box office?

    is anyone surprised at how the iraqis are portrayed?

    is anyone surprised that jihadists and arabs are conflated whether in this movie or in american media?

    is anyone surprised that mr. kyle views iraqis in the manner the authors of the referenced article claim, if the claim is accurate?

    go back and look at americans are getting dumber and tribalism is replacing nationalism.

    your answers lie there. and in the virulent and 100% fatal infection called exceptionalism.
    Again...it's an endless circle.... debate on this issue can go on-and-on.
    20 years ago in this country I was able to go to an airport, go through one metal detector, get on a plane and go about my merry way. I was able to walk into any stadium, building (federal or state) without being shaken down, asked for a valid form of ID
    and frisked like I was an alter boy at the Vatican. There were not laws (patriot act) that severely expanded police powers by the state.

    All this shit in response to idiots that dwell in the 12th century. Insignificant or not....our lives have been effected by this war about "who's spooky is better"
    Enough is enough. You don't arrest, you don't educate, you don't tolerate.....and definitely ....don't use my money in doing so.
    You terminate, eliminate, and eradicate. I...as many...don't give a shit what anyone does on their own time, in their own country and with their own money.
    But that wasn't good enough for the mystical idiots that want to effect my life (however insignificant you may think it is)
    Take them out back and shoot them. We don't have time for this shit on earth anymore. HOW LONG MUST HUMANITY KEEP ON THIS PATH OF COMPLETE STUPIDITY.
    It is not my job to teach people manners. I DON'T TOLERATE LOONIES. Again, I don't care what people do.....but keep it off my block.
    We have had 2500 years of this insanity.....time for some spring cleaning. Time for something new....time for change,.
    In the 1970's South America had a problem with street gangs....these guys were robbing, murdering and destroying the private property of street merchants. You know...a thorn in the side of public interest. Amazing, they solved the problem overnight. Death squads. They got fed up....and the merchants helped pick up the tab.
    and in the '80's we had the chicago boys destroying the southern cone with the help of rw death squad thugs. so much for cleaning up the place.

    it goes on because it goes on. humans are violent. imo, americans moreso than some others in some cases

    as for eradicate, terminate and eliminate how is that working? shock and awe didn't do a phucquing thing. vietnam didn't do a phucquing thing. when you employ violence as a response to violence you had better be willing to live with the law of unintended consequences. and those unintended consequences led directly to that which you are rightfully complaining about. it was blowback. it was humans engaging in violence as though violence leads to something other than violence.

    i haven't read sun tzu but i recall hearing that he said you must learn about your enemy. the rw calls this sympathizing with the enemy which is another reason why the rw shouldn't be allowed near the weapons of war. of course the dems haven't proven a whole lot better.

    i do understand the frustration. but you are pissing in the wind. humans will no more stop warring for whatever phucquing reason than they will stop having sex. the best we can do is minimize the warring. maybe by encouraging more sex. just kidding.
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    lonely bird Wrote: is anyone surprised at how well it has done at the box office?

    is anyone surprised at how the iraqis are portrayed?

    is anyone surprised that jihadists and arabs are conflated whether in this movie or in american media?

    is anyone surprised that mr. kyle views iraqis in the manner the authors of the referenced article claim, if the claim is accurate?

    go back and look at americans are getting dumber and tribalism is replacing nationalism.

    your answers lie there. and in the virulent and 100% fatal infection called exceptionalism.
    Again...it's an endless circle.... debate on this issue can go on-and-on.
    20 years ago in this country I was able to go to an airport, go through one metal detector, get on a plane and go about my merry way. I was able to walk into any stadium, building (federal or state) without being shaken down, asked for a valid form of ID
    and frisked like I was an alter boy at the Vatican. There were not laws (patriot act) that severely expanded police powers by the state.

    All this shit in response to idiots that dwell in the 12th century. Insignificant or not....our lives have been effected by this war about "who's spooky is better"
    Enough is enough. You don't arrest, you don't educate, you don't tolerate.....and definitely ....don't use my money in doing so.
    You terminate, eliminate, and eradicate. I...as many...don't give a shit what anyone does on their own time, in their own country and with their own money.
    But that wasn't good enough for the mystical idiots that want to effect my life (however insignificant you may think it is)
    Take them out back and shoot them. We don't have time for this shit on earth anymore. HOW LONG MUST HUMANITY KEEP ON THIS PATH OF COMPLETE STUPIDITY.
    It is not my job to teach people manners. I DON'T TOLERATE LOONIES. Again, I don't care what people do.....but keep it off my block.
    We have had 2500 years of this insanity.....time for some spring cleaning. Time for something new....time for change,.
    In the 1970's South America had a problem with street gangs....these guys were robbing, murdering and destroying the private property of street merchants. You know...a thorn in the side of public interest. Amazing, they solved the problem overnight. Death squads. They got fed up....and the merchants helped pick up the tab.
    L.A., I agree........ it's a mess now. About 10 months ago I was visiting someone at a hospital. Entering through the Emergency Room entrance, I had to empty my pockets to go through whatever their machine checks for and then I had to walk through a metal detector with cops standing by. I was very surprised.
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    lonely bird Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    lonely bird Wrote: is anyone surprised at how well it has done at the box office?

    is anyone surprised at how the iraqis are portrayed?

    is anyone surprised that jihadists and arabs are conflated whether in this movie or in american media?

    is anyone surprised that mr. kyle views iraqis in the manner the authors of the referenced article claim, if the claim is accurate?

    go back and look at americans are getting dumber and tribalism is replacing nationalism.

    your answers lie there. and in the virulent and 100% fatal infection called exceptionalism.
    Again...it's an endless circle.... debate on this issue can go on-and-on.
    20 years ago in this country I was able to go to an airport, go through one metal detector, get on a plane and go about my merry way. I was able to walk into any stadium, building (federal or state) without being shaken down, asked for a valid form of ID
    and frisked like I was an alter boy at the Vatican. There were not laws (patriot act) that severely expanded police powers by the state.

    All this shit in response to idiots that dwell in the 12th century. Insignificant or not....our lives have been effected by this war about "who's spooky is better"
    Enough is enough. You don't arrest, you don't educate, you don't tolerate.....and definitely ....don't use my money in doing so.
    You terminate, eliminate, and eradicate. I...as many...don't give a shit what anyone does on their own time, in their own country and with their own money.
    But that wasn't good enough for the mystical idiots that want to effect my life (however insignificant you may think it is)
    Take them out back and shoot them. We don't have time for this shit on earth anymore. HOW LONG MUST HUMANITY KEEP ON THIS PATH OF COMPLETE STUPIDITY.
    It is not my job to teach people manners. I DON'T TOLERATE LOONIES. Again, I don't care what people do.....but keep it off my block.
    We have had 2500 years of this insanity.....time for some spring cleaning. Time for something new....time for change,.
    In the 1970's South America had a problem with street gangs....these guys were robbing, murdering and destroying the private property of street merchants. You know...a thorn in the side of public interest. Amazing, they solved the problem overnight. Death squads. They got fed up....and the merchants helped pick up the tab.
    and in the '80's we had the chicago boys destroying the southern cone with the help of rw death squad thugs. so much for cleaning up the place.

    it goes on because it goes on. humans are violent. imo, americans moreso than some others in some cases

    as for eradicate, terminate and eliminate how is that working? shock and awe didn't do a phucquing thing. vietnam didn't do a phucquing thing. when you employ violence as a response to violence you had better be willing to live with the law of unintended consequences. and those unintended consequences led directly to that which you are rightfully complaining about. it was blowback. it was humans engaging in violence as though violence leads to something other than violence.

    i haven't read sun tzu but i recall hearing that he said you must learn about your enemy. the rw calls this sympathizing with the enemy which is another reason why the rw shouldn't be allowed near the weapons of war. of course the dems haven't proven a whole lot better.

    i do understand the frustration. but you are pissing in the wind. humans will no more stop warring for whatever phucquing reason than they will stop having sex. the best we can do is minimize the warring. maybe by encouraging more sex. just kidding.
    LB,

    You're half correct. The wars that you use as example (shock and awe) aren't wars. I don't know what we call it.....but not a war. WW2 was war. Look how well the war ended for Germany and Japan. They got there asses handed to them....In Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan POLICY handcuffed our troops. We never really unleashed hell on them...so they were always able to retreat and regroup far more often the either Germany or Japan.
    In WW2 we bombed cities and heavily populated areas....the allies unleashed "fury" on them.

    Regarding Sun Tzu.....that was a very long time ago. I read Art of War in prison and found it to be TOTAL GARBAGE....this isn't "wax on-wax off. You can read his book today under other tiles...."48 laws of power....40 laws of seduction" his garbage has been regurgitaded 10 times over. Screw him and his wisdom. They took all his nonsense and re-branded his rules of War......A joke

    In selfishness....I'd rather be at the top of the food chain than at the very bottom. As I satated earlier....theres billions out in the world who would love to take my spot.....no matter the color or religion. So I'll just enjoy whatever time I have and pray to my god...." THE MIGHTY WHODAFUCKAWEES"
    I pray for Big burgers, big asses, big breasts and a BIG GULP DR. PEPPER
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    lonely bird Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    lonely bird Wrote: is anyone surprised at how well it has done at the box office?

    is anyone surprised at how the iraqis are portrayed?

    is anyone surprised that jihadists and arabs are conflated whether in this movie or in american media?

    is anyone surprised that mr. kyle views iraqis in the manner the authors of the referenced article claim, if the claim is accurate?

    go back and look at americans are getting dumber and tribalism is replacing nationalism.

    your answers lie there. and in the virulent and 100% fatal infection called exceptionalism.
    Again...it's an endless circle.... debate on this issue can go on-and-on.
    20 years ago in this country I was able to go to an airport, go through one metal detector, get on a plane and go about my merry way. I was able to walk into any stadium, building (federal or state) without being shaken down, asked for a valid form of ID
    and frisked like I was an alter boy at the Vatican. There were not laws (patriot act) that severely expanded police powers by the state.

    All this shit in response to idiots that dwell in the 12th century. Insignificant or not....our lives have been effected by this war about "who's spooky is better"
    Enough is enough. You don't arrest, you don't educate, you don't tolerate.....and definitely ....don't use my money in doing so.
    You terminate, eliminate, and eradicate. I...as many...don't give a shit what anyone does on their own time, in their own country and with their own money.
    But that wasn't good enough for the mystical idiots that want to effect my life (however insignificant you may think it is)
    Take them out back and shoot them. We don't have time for this shit on earth anymore. HOW LONG MUST HUMANITY KEEP ON THIS PATH OF COMPLETE STUPIDITY.
    It is not my job to teach people manners. I DON'T TOLERATE LOONIES. Again, I don't care what people do.....but keep it off my block.
    We have had 2500 years of this insanity.....time for some spring cleaning. Time for something new....time for change,.
    In the 1970's South America had a problem with street gangs....these guys were robbing, murdering and destroying the private property of street merchants. You know...a thorn in the side of public interest. Amazing, they solved the problem overnight. Death squads. They got fed up....and the merchants helped pick up the tab.
    and in the '80's we had the chicago boys destroying the southern cone with the help of rw death squad thugs. so much for cleaning up the place.

    it goes on because it goes on. humans are violent. imo, americans moreso than some others in some cases

    as for eradicate, terminate and eliminate how is that working? shock and awe didn't do a phucquing thing. vietnam didn't do a phucquing thing. when you employ violence as a response to violence you had better be willing to live with the law of unintended consequences. and those unintended consequences led directly to that which you are rightfully complaining about. it was blowback. it was humans engaging in violence as though violence leads to something other than violence.

    i haven't read sun tzu but i recall hearing that he said you must learn about your enemy. the rw calls this sympathizing with the enemy which is another reason why the rw shouldn't be allowed near the weapons of war. of course the dems haven't proven a whole lot better.

    i do understand the frustration. but you are pissing in the wind. humans will no more stop warring for whatever phucquing reason than they will stop having sex. the best we can do is minimize the warring. maybe by encouraging more sex. just kidding.
    LB,

    You're half correct. The wars that you use as example (shock and awe) aren't wars. I don't know what we call it.....but not a war. WW2 was war. Look how well the war ended for Germany and Japan. They got there asses handed to them....In Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan POLICY handcuffed our troops. We never really unleashed hell on them...so they were always able to retreat and regroup far more often the either Germany or Japan.
    In WW2 we bombed cities and heavily populated areas....the allies unleashed "fury" on them.

    Regarding Sun Tzu.....that was a very long time ago. I read Art of War in prison and found it to be TOTAL GARBAGE....this isn't "wax on-wax off. You can read his book today under other tiles...."48 laws of power....40 laws of seduction" his garbage has been regurgitaded 10 times over. Screw him and his wisdom. They took all his nonsense and re-branded his rules of War......A joke

    In selfishness....I'd rather be at the top of the food chain than at the very bottom. As I satated earlier....theres billions out in the world who would love to take my spot.....no matter the color or religion. So I'll just enjoy whatever time I have and pray to my god...." THE MIGHTY WHODAFUCKAWEES"
    I pray for Big burgers, big asses, big breasts and a BIG GULP DR. PEPPER
    yet...

    if policy handicapped us in vietnam why did the french have trouble? if policy handicapped us in afganistan why is afganistan known as the place where empires go to die? iirc, during either peace talks or after normalizing relations with vietnam one of our generals commented that the vienamese never beat us in a battle to which the reply was "we didn't have to."

    what's the best way to destroy an enemy? make him your friend. if you do not understand the motivations, all the motivations, then you will not succeed in a guerilla/counter-insurgency. and actually the shock and awe most certainly was a war. the enemy, the taliban simply withdrew. they couldn't be crushed, eradicated, terminated because they could merge back into the existing culture. the ww2 analogy doesn't hold. state vs state warfare is totally different than insurgency/counter-insurgency. if you don't care for sun tsu, which btw has no relation to the business world despite idiots who right books "based" on sun tzu, then try "weaponizing anthropology" by david price.

    isil and whoever else will come along after they collapse, and they will collapse, can spout all they want. isil isn't about religion and never has been. the middle east is and always will be about access to the commodity that made the u.s. the top of the food chain, fossil fuel.

    nobody wants to take your place nor really our place. at least nobody in the middle east. they are simply happy to bloody our nose and they can do so rather easily. which in the long run means nothing. of more importance is the economic war we are losing to china.
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    As I said many times ; the way we "stomp" around the world and stick our arrogant noses in everything and every country on this globe; then the "revenge" will come one day or another day. Right now we are fighting "wars"(?) or just want to test out our new weapons? or just think we can dictate the world ? or spread our fantastic "capitalistic" "greedy" culture? I've no clue who is behind all this total stupidity,which as with Napoleon and Hitler will eventually make us a third world country; considering we don't spent much on infrastructure; this may happen sooner than we think. Sorry "fossil" fuel won't kill us; it is the "greed" which will do it; it is a cancer which you can't eradicate by fighting "wars" all over the place. It will only make the warlords richer; not us.
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    [url=https://www.democratichub.com/user/76635.aspx">Dutch[/url] Wrote: As I said many times ; the way we "stomp" around the world and stick our arrogant noses in everything and every country on this globe; then the "revenge" will come one day or another day. Right now we are fighting "wars"(?) or just want to test out our new weapons? or just think we can dictate the world ? or spread our fantastic "capitalistic" "greedy" culture? I've no clue who is behind all this total stupidity,which as with Napoleon and Hitler will eventually make us a third world country; considering we don't spent much on infrastructure; this may happen sooner than we think. Sorry "fossil" fuel won't kill us; it is the "greed" which will do it; it is a cancer which you can't eradicate by fighting "wars" all over the place. It will only make the warlords richer; not us.

    Quite so fossil fuels themselves won't kill us but they underpin the entire economy including the military machine. Lack of access to them will certainly damage us which is why we stick our arrogant noses into everything.