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the violence venue is the media menu that we all gobble up and suffer news-nausea

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  • Independent
    Massachusetts
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    1 NYC cop dead in shooting, 2nd critical
    Note, the following not in perfect time-sequencing.
    Very considerate of the shooter to save the City of New York all kinds of legal expenses for prosecution.
    Think back, though. This country has always been violent. New York gangs, Chicago, Olde South lynchings, wild West where the cops gunned down were in four-legged cruisers (one man per). The history of New City is actually horrific (incidences of burnings alive, breaking on a wheel, gang wars ("Gangs of New York" the book and movie) Chicago Prohibition era, race riots and industrial uprisings. Essential genocide of the original occupants of our “imminent domain by Manifest Destiny”. How recently Watts, the post Rodney King little fracas, Boston as bomb defused perhaps only by Little Richard's calming influence at the old Boston Garden. How about the era of Jewish Communists and Italian anarchists? We are living in a lull, actually. KKK passe’. Just disorganized militias now.
    The mass is not -acre or murder. It's media coverage that's a magnifying class of comprehension. For it ain't as bad as it seems 'cept in certain places.

    There was a time beginning back in the Bible's beatific reportage when everything was being slaughtered including, intermittently, the slaughterers, when God got perturbed that they weren't being (compensatorily) subservient unto His all-lovingness and he struck down his own chosen people with serpent bites and plagues and pestilences . . . . and each other.
    The Greek wars. Trojans. And the rest of the restive residents of the region. Then the less than peaceful Roman empire, Somewhere within the time-span area Hannibal with his elephants for alpine traverse (care to psychoanalyze his fixation perhaps on trunks as phallic symbols by which he could be a conquering man of anything?).
    And shifting our coverage to the North, the Vikings and the Scottish and Celtic and Irish against each other and then England into the tag-team terminations of the thousands. And then, somewhat a disrespect of Jesus's sacrifice so that man could live ever in peace and God's grace and even the lion lie down with the lamb (easiest way for the former to dine on the latter). . . . . then (we're skipping back) the era of the early Christian heresies to take some of the load of persecution and torture off the overworked Romans who were losing it in the overinflation of their empire . . . . and then again forward in time and upward in latitude the Catholics v. Protestants and vice versa and Vatican v. Templars who were defiant to the end, singing "come on baby, light my fire." Later, "War of the Roses", "Thirty Years' War" and the entre'acts of axes wielded, and spears and boiling oil.

    And, oh yes, a minor matter easy to forget amidst the all these pieces of the pie of peace, the Crusades and Inquisition. And for a time every subdivision of every European's knights and even peasants besieging and slaughtering each other amid breach of wall and brutalizing of woman.
    Backflash to Cossacks and Genghises and pan the camera East where China and Japan were kaleidoscopic chaos committed by Shoguns and Samurai (the latter a bit confused, for it's either supposed to be the belly for navel gazing or for gelatinous laughter -- not for slitting (seppuku, I think).
    And to bring us up to the recent from the distant past, we have the Revolutionary, French and Indian, Civil, Mexican, and ratings wars (where were they fought?) right here on our own field of frenzy.
    WW I and II weren't quite intermissions before the short runs of Korea and 'Nam.

    A kid here, guy there, a couple by sniper, little group by "shooter" in the theater, and now a couple cops. A tragedy of personal perspective, even mine for I am literally saddened to eye moisture somewhat in telepathic synchrony with what those grieving feel. And the same "vicarious emotion" I've felt to so the parents of or lover or child or spouse . . . . so damned many that one may share the sear of loss, but there isn't enough left to cry with.

    Snuff happens. In so many ways.
    But less now than through history's misery, man's inhumanity as mystery.
    Perhaps we need to look at retrospect's panorama, diorama, die-orama and follow time's trajectory as the endless carnage calmed. Why? How? Surely not some random mutation of the complexes and complicities and accomplices of mankind's vestigial predatory programming. If not transcendence as design of spontaneous intelligence to not commit mutual massacre, . . . . . then what hath brought on the periods of peace?
    Can we make "peace products"? Surely the people of the world would buy.
    Coexistence fast food? What a market for servings of serenity.
    Or saturation bombing of the warring regions with . . . pornography? What a "diversion tactic".

    But seriously, to conclude. Violence unto mindless murder is part of man's mentality.
    But through recorded time there's been so much more than now. And without "conventions" and protocols to at least try to control the "excruciating creativity of" the carnage.
  • Liberal
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    Why are your posts so long? Get to the point.


    2 NYPD officers murdered in response to Garner and Brown. Not good. Now it's going to get ugly with the protestors. It was bound to happen. Someone, somewhere.
    I don't wish that anyone trying to make a living....so what's next?
  • Independent
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    Cop Kill

    It comes down to the perspicacious comprehensivity of realization that "shit happens when God blinks". Compared to other places in the world, NY is Eldorado, Utopia, Shangrila.
    Pakistan . . . children . . . elsewheres . . . . girls . . . . .
    Man may be "created in the image of god" (god, the "universal-set" dimension of man's potential to know of the universe, the "that which created the heavens" and earth (read here . . what caused and comprises).
    But man the "degenerate predator" who kills the vulnerable and helpless and the only hunger fed is the psycho brain process (atrocity-syndrome) of the mutant beast.

    In compiling all for IRAQL DEBACLE I wept so much (including at my conclusionary comments/apologia) that I have no tears at the moment. Just subtle ache for those whose loved ones were amputated without even the anesthetic of a natural natural process such as disease -- or the inadvertent incident of accident.
  • Liberal
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    You may want to go to some new-age forum. It's clear that you're extremely educated and have excellent writing skills.....but c'mon, sometimes you take a topic way out there.
  • Democrat
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    As said before the legitimate protest for and about the events surrounding the deaths of two men killed by law enforcement has been hijacked by the anarchists and the crazies, which do you think the general public will react to the most , the public will of course disavow the killing of the two police officers via ambush,but the protest will lose support and slowly drift into the background, and nothing will have been accomplished other than some face time on the news media.
  • Independent
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    alongcameaschneider Wrote: Cop Kill

    It comes down to the perspicacious comprehensivity of realization that "shit happens when God blinks". Compared to other places in the world, NY is Eldorado, Utopia, Shangrila.
    Pakistan . . . children . . . elsewheres . . . . girls . . . . .
    Man may be "created in the image of god" (god, the "universal-set" dimension of man's potential to know of the universe, the "that which created the heavens" and earth (read here . . what caused and comprises).
    But man the "degenerate predator" who kills the vulnerable and helpless and the only hunger fed is the psycho brain process (atrocity-syndrome) of the mutant beast.

    In compiling all for IRAQL DEBACLE I wept so much (including at my conclusionary comments/apologia) that I have no tears at the moment. Just subtle ache for those whose loved ones were amputated without even the anesthetic of a natural natural process such as disease -- or the inadvertent incident of accident.
    Schneider, I doubt that we are images of any "human created "god" like thing; First of all no one has ever met or seen such thing. Also if it would exist and has "human" qualities, then I fear the whole universe will explode or implode at a given time; especially watch out "it" may carry a "huge" gun and smokes free weed in heaven.
  • Independent
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Schneider, I doubt that we are images of any "human created "god" like thing

    Dutch - I know what you are saying, and at first glance it may seem that the writer intended to convey we are actually images - but note the quote - quotations - I read it as precisely the opposite. I agree that no-one has seen, and likely never will, this image. People sometime find visuals a requisite to their comprehension of an idea. The image fills this need. But in actuality, a pipe dream, or whatever someone is smoking.......
  • Independent
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    My friend (probably should address this to more than just you alone) . . . . I know. I've got to stop it. But what I write is how I'd say if if we were over a beer together. I don't think points so much as perspectives. That's why I put in so much more than just the point -- to paint a word-picture that the point can be seen in. In comparison to, in this case (and so much else of my stuff).
    But you and others are right. I'm not writing for the Economist here. I owe it to respect limits on what people want to read. And how. And be able to !!
    I do go off the deep end and wall and beyond (though sometimes, like the satire, just to have fun).
    I appreciate everyone's comments, even criticisms. You are my friends with whom I can have something to say.
    And I appreciate what you all say.