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US to Normalize Relations with Cuba, Alan Gross Finally Freed

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  • Center Left
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    American government contractor Alan Gross has finally been released from Cuban prison, after serving 5 years (unjustly). On top of that, the Obama Administration is in talks with Cuba to completely overhaul Cuba/US relations. This is breaking right now. And Obama is supposed to address the nation here shortly.

    Thoughts? Marco Rubio has already come out and condemned Obama on this action, of course. No matter what Obama does, the GOP trots out the same old tired Republicans to attack his every move. This time up.. Rubio, as he has a personal history with Cuba.
  • Liberal
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    The US should have done this years ago. This may impact 2016 elections here. the republicans are going to call democrats "commies"... and redneck America will be listening. They just gave Rush Limbaugh 2 years of material.
  • Democrat
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    I don't know what all the fuss is about , what I do know is that damn near every nation does do business with Cuba, so why not us? BTW, I am of Cuban hertitage.
  • Center Left
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    I have mixed feelings on this one. First of all, repairing relations with Cuba is long overdue. Giving them assistance is also a good idea.
    The prisoner exchange is something that I have a problem with. Gross was on the news this morning via an older videotape..... he said that he was a
    Hostage as Cuba just took him so they would have something more to trade with.The sanctions are based in law so congress will have to get involved
    to dissolve this old mess. The real money that Cuba could earn would be if the US opened up travel to Cuba. Then hotels would spend huge money building new hotels and resorts. Many new jobs would be created in the tourism industry. Americans could spend a fortune on vacations or get away travel. I believe
    that we will proceed but slowly, carefully. We need more stability there before we send large numbers of citizens there.
  • Liberal
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: I have mixed feelings on this one. First of all, repairing relations with Cuba is long overdue. Giving them assistance is also a good idea.
    The prisoner exchange is something that I have a problem with. Gross was on the news this morning via an older videotape..... he said that he was a
    Hostage as Cuba just took him so they would have something more to trade with.The sanctions are based in law so congress will have to get involved
    to dissolve this old mess. The real money that Cuba could earn would be if the US opened up travel to Cuba. Then hotels would spend huge money building new hotels and resorts. Many new jobs would be created in the tourism industry. Americans could spend a fortune on vacations or get away travel. I believe
    that we will proceed but slowly, carefully. We need more stability there before we send large numbers of citizens there.
    Sorry Tony..... take a look on how the cuban 5 were convicted in this country. I was in the penitentiary in Victorville with two of them. This country takes hostages all the time. Regarding tourism, Cuba already has resorts and hotels that much of the world visits....you would just need to reserve a little earlier. Cuba has come a long way....they are the only latin American country that not only "doesn't" receive any aid from The US,,,,, but they've been able to function with a 50 yr. embargo.,,,,,, very admirable.....the US has told lies about Cuba for the last 50 years.

    If Castro had not won......Cuba would have been Florida's version of Tijuana...poverty, exploitation, whores, drugs....you know.....Las Vegas.
    I have a lot of respect for Castro.....you see, he wasn't a coffe shop revolutionary....he's the real deal

    WE WERE HIS ENGLAND IN HIS REVOLUTION. He came from a wealthy family and traded his fortune in for a rifle and an idea to free his own people from us. That good ole American pig that wanted to keep his country as our private whore house. We only believe in freedom if it's our version of freedom
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    sbfriedman Wrote: Thoughts? Marco Rubio has already come out and condemned Obama on this action, of course. No matter what Obama does, the GOP trots out the same old tired Republicans to attack his every move. This time up.. Rubio, as he has a personal history with Cuba.
    My thoughts on Marco Rubio is that he's a tool who would find a way to slam the President for personally saving an elderly woman that was trapped in a burning house. At least he didn't get thirsty during his press conference today.

    My thoughts on this announcement range from 'It's about damn time' to 'this is huge.' Make no mistake about it--this is a monumental announcement. We have had a total freeze in relations with Cuba for over fifty years now. Our policies, while meant to bring the Castro regime down, have only helped solidify their power for these past five decades. How Republicans have somehow convinced themselves that things were on the cusp of finally changing if we only stayed the course is beside me. I honestly don't understand why we still hold a grudge against Cuba, but have normalized relations with Vietnam. It makes absolutely no sense.

    The real test will be when President Obama officially asks Congress to ease or repeal the total embargo we have against Cuba. President Obama can only go so far by himself. It's wonderful that we will be reopening an Embassy; that businesses can conduct business with Cuba; and that we were able to secure the release of Alan Gross and the unnamed spy that has been imprisoned for over twenty years, but if we want to see a lasting change then we need to get Congress to stop being juveniles and do the right thing.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Tony Johnson Wrote:We need more stability there before we send large numbers of citizens there.
    Cuba is a very stable country. They have been stable for decades, even with the headwinds of American sanctions. It also used to be one of the top destinations for American tourists until they became our governments enemy. I would love to see it become another tourist destination for Americans. I would book a vacation there in a heartbeat.
  • Center Left
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    Like many countries you can visit in South or Central America, or the Caribbean...... There is much poverty. That lends itself to the higher chances of being robbed if you tour the city.
    I know that there are already huge hotels/resorts in Cuba. I heard once that as a Cuban, you can work there but don't try to book a room - ever. It's 100% for visiting tourists only. I don't know if that is true but it's what I have heard.
    The repub's bitching how this is wrong are MORONS !!!! as jared said, they would complain about anything done by Obama.
    L.A. I'm not that aware of those 3 but to hear the news talk about them it sounded like they were bad people. I'll open my mind to the idea of the USA doing shady stuff and later lying about the details.
  • Liberal
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    TONY

    Keep in mind that the airplane that was shot down by Cuba was in Cuban airspace....and they had been warned on numerous occasions. You play with fire and you're going to get burned.
    Remember the plane our Navy shot down? Nobody went to jail... and it was our fault. We paid some money to the families and went back to being our wonderful selves.
    Yes... you are correct. Cubans are not allowed in tourist resorts as visitors, but they built them and work in them.

    Rubio??? this guys a clown. He wasn't even honest when he stated that his parents fled Cuba during the revolution...when in actuality they fled two years prior to Castro's revolution..
    A good friend of mine was there 8 months ago, he went through Mexico.....he loved it.....Funny, he witnessed a woman beating up her boyfriend in a public park and the cops rolled up in a truck and told both of them to get in the back...and they did..... no cuffs, no big brother with an AK-47, they just hopped in the back.
    Cubans have had to sacrifice because of the embargo....and for no other reason,,,,,, this is the reason they jump in rafts and risk death. Castro knows that the US Coast Guard is only going to bring them back.....so why go?
    Our embargo is the sole reason they're still jumping in rafts.....Some cubans don't want to collectively sacrifice....they want cinna buns, welfare, tennis shoes, the Kardashians......I don't blame them. But not everyone in Cuba feels that way. The US has painted a very different picture

    The Cuban 5 had nothing to do with the plane getting shot down...they act like Cuba doesn't have Radar....they were here...90 miles from the incident. Cuba is a sovereign nation with the right to protect it's air space
  • Liberal
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    This should have been done 35 years ago! I had friends who were in the National Guard in 1961 and ended up being nationalized and sent to fight for Batista so as to protect "American interests" . The 1% always comes out on top at the expense of the poor!

    As usual, we supported the wrong side in Cuba but hey, that's the American way - wealth over freedom every time.
  • Liberal
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    pgr Wrote: This should have been done 35 years ago! I had friends who were in the National Guard in 1961 and ended up being nationalized and sent to fight for Batista so as to protect "American interests" . The 1% always comes out on top at the expense of the poor!

    As usual, we supported the wrong side in Cuba but hey, that's the American way - wealth over freedom every time.
    The little cessna that was shot down kept dropping beatles in Cuba's crops in order to destroy them, they were also dropping lterature...they had been warned many-many times....the cuban five were convicted for leverage to get our seccret spy out....the nameless spy who'd been there for twenty years. The guy on CNN (government contractor released)..he's for the cameras.

    Nobody thought Castro could or would win...but he did. America has had shit on it's face for 50 years. The US supported Batista and the Mafia...Castro and Che weren't having that. No other country has had to go through what Cuba has ....and yet they produce more doctors, more teachers, and also have a far less infant mortality rate than us. And these idiot citizens here don't even realize it.

    The last of the Cuban 5 were nobody's.....they were rail roaded through the US federal system which deemed them criminals....What did they do to receive life sentences???
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    pgr Wrote: This should have been done 35 years ago! I had friends who were in the National Guard in 1961 and ended up being nationalized and sent to fight for Batista so as to protect "American interests" . The 1% always comes out on top at the expense of the poor!

    The problem with this country,as Obama clearly saidAs usual, we supported the wrong side in Cuba but hey, that's the American way - wealth over freedom every time.
    The problem with this country is playing the "hypocrite"; we do bussiness with China, Vietnam, Russia,who all are communistic countries; even Obama mentioned that; then of course you have the GOP hypocrites who are the "worst" capitalstic basterds,who only want "power" to rake in the money; that is so much better than communism?. A country is run properly if it is in the "middle' of both types of ruling. Cubans are also people and want progress and trade and food on the table; what's wrong with that?
  • Democrat
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    Cuba may be one country to teach us how to nationalize health care. I understand that every Cuban citizen has "free" health care. But of course, the Doctors are not paid as much in Cuba as compared to in America. Maybe that's the problem with health care in America. I'm sure there are many other issues of care in Cuba, especially medicines and quality care. It's worth the Cuba -America relations to consider what works in Cuba and doesn't work in America.
  • Center Left
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    I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but tonight on CNN they said that Cuba is the country supplying the most doctors to Liberia in the fight against Ebola. That is very respectable. They play a mean game of baseball also. It's funny, in movies you see that they have old American cars and they make parts when needed to do repairs. Because they don't have an auto parts store.
    I hope those uptight repub's can get over it and move on. The shit Cuba was doing in the early 60's with Russian missiles was BS but that was 50+ years ago.
    This is long over due. I hope we can proceed and make progress in a win/win solution.
  • Liberal
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but tonight on CNN they said that Cuba is the country supplying the most doctors to Liberia in the fight against Ebola. That is very respectable. They play a mean game of baseball also. It's funny, in movies you see that they have old American cars and they make parts when needed to do repairs. Because they don't have an auto parts store.
    I hope those uptight repub's can get over it and move on. The shit Cuba was doing in the early 60's with Russian missiles was BS but that was 50+ years ago.
    This is long over due. I hope we can proceed and make progress in a win/win solution.
    You gotta undestand......Cuba was about to be invaded....on many occassions. He turned to Russia because they were the only other big boy on the block. The CIA was always trying to figure out ways to kill Castro....he knew it...Russia was his only play. Kruschev, before dying, admitted that those Russian missiles in Cuba weren't even operational ....and the very reason he backed down. It was a bluff.

    Che was killed in Bolivia trying to help those rebels out....these guys went and volunteered to fight other wars on behalf of peasants....Any revolution was Cuba's revolution....this is why they send doctors to Liberia. Nelson Mandela loved Fidel Castro because Castro sent volunteer to fight Apartheid....Mandela took a lot of heat for visiting Cuba when he was released but he didn't care. He owed Cuba respect.

    If you're able, get the documentary by Oliver Stone "FIDEL" also, "South America"... great documentaries